Truthers and the FDNY

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Roger, since you are about facts and evidence,please show us your evidence that cutters were used. Please show us an interview or report with a person that cut any of the beams.

You say you can back up your claims, thats all we are asking now.

As soon as you show me you can accept and admit to facts and evidence shown, becasue your track record so far have proven that you will not accept anything that does not agree with what you believe.
 
haha!

So you have no information to back your ridiculous claim.

No suprise.

You want to find the truth, but wont share evidence with what you have found.

So selfish, Roger. Shame shame...
 
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haha!

So you have no information to back your ridiculous claim.

No suprise.

You want to find the truth, but wont share evidence with what you have found.

So selfish, Roger. Shame shame...

As soon as you show me you can accept and admit to facts and evidence shown, becasue your track record so far have proven that you will not accept anything that does not agree with what you believe.
 
Well the fire commander can demeo a building in a emergency but we do not know if firemen, rescue or demo units were used.

What a loon.

The "fire commander can do nothing but talk over a radio. A demolition crew would be huge for what would be the birgest man-made demolition ever attempted by a factor of maybe 100 in building size.

Nobody sent people into a burning building to set hush-a-boom demolition charges.

I'm a New Yorker and know firemen. I don't think that FDNY personnel have ever been responsible for a controlled demolition. They deal with about-to-collapse buildings all the time.
 
It looks like pretend NSA Headquarters has yet to produce an explanation for why everyone involved in the standard demolition of an unstable building would lie to the whole world about the fact the building was purposely demolished for safety reasons.

Perhaps we need some more pretend NSA analysts on the case.
 
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As soon as you show me you can accept and admit to facts and evidence shown, becasue your track record so far have proven that you will not accept anything that does not agree with what you believe.

As soon as you can post information showing the fire dept used cutters in building 7 to bring it down.
 
What a loon.

The "fire commander can do nothing but talk over a radio. A demolition crew would be huge for what would be the birgest man-made demolition ever attempted by a factor of maybe 100 in building size.

Nobody sent people into a burning building to set hush-a-boom demolition charges.

I'm a New Yorker and know firemen. I don't think that FDNY personnel have ever been responsible for a controlled demolition. They deal with about-to-collapse buildings all the time.


Reported breach of rule 12
 
It looks like pretend NSA Headquarters has yet to produce an explanation for why everyone involved in the standard demolition of an unstable building would lie to the whole world about the fact the building was purposely demolished for safety reasons.

Perhaps we need some more pretend NSA analysts on the case.

Reported breach of rule 12
 
Reported breach of rule 12

You've yet to present an argument for me to address. I've asked you repeatedly to explain why everyone involved in the demolition of WTC7 saw fit to lie about it, and you keep dodging the issue. I can only assume you are still researching it down at pretend NSA Headquarters, and suggest you enlist the assistance of other pretend NSA analysts.
 
Can we all stop publicly saying "reported for RULE X breach"... If you got to report somebody can y'all keep it private? It's nothing personal but it's annoying to scroll through them Xd


Well the fire commander can demo a building in a emergency but we do not know if firemen, rescue or demo units were used.

I've been searching for a source on this claim for some time now but to no avail. Perhaps you have one?


As stated fire rescue units have the knowledge and equipment to cut beams.
Are you referring to equipment like these:

# Hook: forged steel hook at end of insulated pole of varying lengths; used for piercing and pulling building materials away from walls and ceilings. Similar to nautical gaff hook. Short hook with a pointed tip is a pike pole; longer hook on a San Francisco hook; two offset hooks on either side of tip is a universal hook; long p-shaped hook is a Boston rake for pulling plaster and lath; short hook with claw on opposite side of tip is either a gypsum hook or the narrower ceiling hook; pike pole with a short handle is a somewhat useless closet hook.

Or Hydraulic Rescue tools?

Pickheaded axe: Standard fire axe having a 6 or 8 pound (2.7 to 3.6 kg) steel head with a cutting blade on one edge and a square, pointed pick on the opposite side. Come in various handle lengths.

Rabbet Tool: A hand powered portable hydraulic ram, specially designed for insertion between a door and its frame for rapid forcible entry.

Ventilation saw: A high-powered saw with metal-cutting teeth or disc for quickly making large openings in roofing materials. Often, a chain saw with an attached guard to limit the depth of cut.

I used this reference to get the above information, but nothing on that glossary indicates in any way shape or form that firefighters are equipped to perform demolition procedures. They have hydraulic tools and equipment which allows them to forcibly enter, or take don walls for access purposes or rescue, but nothing for destroying buildings in any situation, emergency or otherwise.

So my question is what equipment do they have available to perform demolition operation? Do you have a source which goes into detail and substantiated your claim?
 
I can only assume you are still researching it down at pretend NSA Headquarters, and suggest you enlist the assistance of other pretend NSA analysts.

Reported again.

If you say pretend NSA one more time i will go to the mods to have you removed.

Its not my fault you cannot figure out the documents i posted are real and mine.
 
FDNY does not carry equipment to perform demolitions. Thats a fact.

I have never heard of FDNY commanders having the power to demolish a building in an emergency until this thread. Possibly because they have no such power or the ability to do that.
 
to get the above information, but nothing on that glossary indicates in any way shape or form that firefighters are equipped to perform demolition procedures.

Well i did not say fire fighters i stated fire RESCUE units. There is a difference.

So my question is what equipment do they have available to perform demolition operation? Do you have a source which goes into detail and substantiated your claim?


Sawsall

cutting torches

These will cut a beam.
 
Well i did not say fire fighters i stated fire RESCUE units. There is a difference.




Sawsall

cutting torches

These will cut a beam.
there is no difference!!! FDNY runs the Rescue units!!! Rescue units are firefighters with rescue equipment!! Rescue 1 was destroyed in the collapse on the twin towers.
 
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