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Truth, Justice, and All That Stuff

I'd be interested to know when the original "truth, justice, and the american way" phrase was coined for Superman. Anyone know?
 
I agree. I think "and all that stuff" was a horrible replacement for "american way" though. Couldn't the writers have come up with something a little better? Like a more global version of "american way" if that's what they were trying for. "All that stuff" really lacks imagination.
 
senorpogo said:
I'd be interested to know when the original "truth, justice, and the american way" phrase was coined for Superman. Anyone know?
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I know it at least started during the black and white tv show. Could have started during ww2 when he was fighting the nazis. Comic heros also had to become more moral and patriotic when they were under attack in the late 40s early 50s. One of the news/info channels just had a special on comic book heros, but i forget which one. Wife says it was the History channel.
 
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Tailgater said:
I agree. I think "and all that stuff" was a horrible replacement for "american way" though. Couldn't the writers have come up with something a little better? Like a more global version of "american way" if that's what they were trying for. "All that stuff" really lacks imagination.
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Disagree - it's exactly the way you'd expect a cynical hard-nosed editor to say it.
 
Darat said:
Disagree - it's exactly the way you'd expect a cynical hard-nosed editor to say it.
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I would have to hear it in spoken words. I keep thinking of the TV show and how silly it would sound in that way.
 
I agree with Darat. Perry was spitting out directives to a room full of staffers. To me, it was a variation of "yadda yadda."

But Bill "I won a Peabody Award" O'Reilly somehow misses the distinction.
 
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I thought Perry White's remark was intended as a joke, from the writers. The "the American way" is implicit.
 
I'm surprised O'Reilly didn't get into a frenzy over Superman being an illegal alien father of an illegitimate bastard child.
 
From the article in the OP:
Please tell Perry White there is no justice in eliminating the American way
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This reminds me of Dan Quail yelling at Murphy Brown for having a child out of wed-lock.
 
Mr. O'Reilly didn't touch on even half of it. There was another classic line that was modified in this Hollywood Blame-America-First piece:

Jimmy: gives Perry White a blurry picture Look! Up in the sky!
Perry: squinting It's a bird.
Lois: It's a plane.
Jimmy: No, it's....
Clark: enters Hi. You wanted to see me?


This is obviously an piece of anti-American propoganda! Why didn't the movie producers finish the line? They're in it with the islamofashists!
 
I wonder why Superman doesn't help out in the Middle-East. I wonder if supes is pro or anti abortion, I wonder if he's for or against gay marriage as well. I wonder why politics didn't play a big part in the movie.
 
Siiiiggggghhhhhhhhh.

Either O'Reilly is a total idiot, which I often said before, or his rating is slipping and he thinks that saying something outrageously stupid would make people want to watch him, a la Howard Stern.
 
Skeptic said:
Siiiiggggghhhhhhhhh.

Either O'Reilly is a total idiot, which I often said before, or his rating is slipping and he thinks that saying something outrageously stupid would make people want to watch him, a la Howard Stern.
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Well, it's not the first time Loofahman has demonstrated his clear and rational thought process. See: the War on Christmas.
 
Tailgater said:
I agree. I think "and all that stuff" was a horrible replacement for "american way" though. Couldn't the writers have come up with something a little better? Like a more global version of "american way" if that's what they were trying for. "All that stuff" really lacks imagination.
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Actually, at the time, "and all that stuff" seemed like a clever way to emphasize "the America way". It wasn't until I read this that (says Bill) it was taken out for foreign audiences not hip to "the American way".

I wonder if that was true.
 
Earthborn said:
Have no fear, Google brings us here!
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At one point the Fleischer cartoons even scrapped the whole "speeding bullet" business in favor of more weather-oriented metaphors: "Faster than a streak of lightning! More powerful than the pounding surf! Mightier than a roaring hurricane!"
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These are massive power upgrades from bullet, locomotive, and tall building, which was really a Marvel comics-level of relatively wimpy herohood. Nah, Superman needs to be magnitudes above that.
 
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