Trust me... I'm a Healer (Part 2)

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So tonight on BBC TV (UK) we have the second instalment of the series - "Trust me... I'm a healer"

Mon 15 Jan, BBC2, 10:00 pm - 10:30 pm

Stephen Turoff is a psychic surgeon, one of Britain's most sought-after healers. People come from all over the world to visit him in his clinic in Chelmsford and some claim he has performed miracles. And then there are the visions. But if some people think he's the next Messiah, Stephen's wife would beg to differ.
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His website is here.
Seems like he did "traditional" psychic surgery in the past (palmed chicken guts etc) but as he has become more popular (and more heavily scrutinised) he has resorted to psychic healing without surgery. Strange lights sent by god manifest themselves. Funnily enough, these can only be seen in retrospect with dodgy polaroid photos which are suitably interpreted as being divine in origin such as this example below.

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This is the "kundalini" or energy of life.

Similar examples may be linked to by clicking on "Healing times", which as its name does not suggest, is a catalogue of photos showing similar nonsense (rather than what I was expecting which was a list of length of time to heal things, you know - Irritable bowel, 3 weeks; Hypergullible syndrome, never; and so on)
 
What is it about woos that makes them incapable of using a camera without getting some kind of optical defect or developing error?
 
Oh no!!!

After last weeks deluded, dangerous, half-wit I'm not sure I can stomach another one!!
 
Enjoy....!

I think there is a different one each week for a whole 5 episode series.
 
Do you think he'd perform a psychic lobotomy for me? Can't see how else to endure watching five episodes of this...
 
Clearly this programme is being unrepresentative of healers in general :rolleyes:

Bad BBC...

http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=410310

randome quotes from that thread, these people are just trying so so hard to justify their belief

How typical that the first episode should show possibly one of the most eccentric healers, and slant the programme (IMO) to emphasize his eccentricity.
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I watched the programme as I find anything like that fascinating although I am sceptical mainly because I believe in God and find things like that don't sit well with my beliefs.
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They did also show one patient of Peter's who had had astonishing results (although not completely sustained) with her hormone levels and this was pleasing too.
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I myself am a reiki master that plays football and paintball etc etc.
I wouldn't make good TV as it would be difficult for me to be made to look a little 'loopy'
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Can we make this the 'offical' thread for this programme? There have been a couple already, would make sense to keep it going in one thread over the series.
 
Crackpot.

As usual he didn't want to be subject to a third party scrutiny.His wife seemed a little sceptical at times,yet other times believed "transfigurations" of evil.A little more skepticism wouldn't go amiss in the programme.
 
I saw it but missed the first one. Last night' we were told by the narrator/director he had about 100 "patients" a day paying £25 a time - not a bad earner. No wonder he doesn't do callouts.


Lots of pics of dodgy guru Sai Baba, too I noticed.

Nice to see he keeps his website up to date:

A HEALING WORKSHOP WILL BE HELD IN THE UK
on Saturday 17th July 2004 (9.30am – 4.00pm),
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I didn't see this episode, but if anyone fancies taking action similar to that which I did after the last episode, see these two threads:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72003

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72062

The police were very receptive to my complaint, and whilst I haven't as yet had a response from the CPS or Trading Standards, I'm confident there is at least the possibility that these charlatans have incriminated themselves enough to warrant prosecution.
 
From what I read of the appalling first fruitcake with his fairies etc , this guy wasn't as blatant though bad enough. His website is very vague. I think they are careful what they actually "promise". His wife was on the phone trying to discourage someone from coming from abroad who was totally blind as they can't "guarantee" anything but he still gets plenty of punters.
He categorically refused to meet with cancer specialist Prof Jonathan Waxman - no real reason other than he "didn't want to" .

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mattlodder said:
I didn't see this episode, but if anyone fancies taking action similar to that which I did after the last episode, see these two threads:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72003

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72062

The police were very receptive to my complaint, and whilst I haven't as yet had a response from the CPS or Trading Standards, I'm confident there is at least the possibility that these charlatans have incriminated themselves enough to warrant prosecution.
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Perhaps Her Majesty's Tax Man would be interested in an audit of his books?
He admits to earning £2500 per day just from visits from his clients. In total he must get more than £1 million each year.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to be a doctor in the NHS.
 
Azrael 5 said:
A little more skepticism wouldn't go amiss in the programme.
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It wouldn't. Having said that, the tone was a lot more sceptical than it was last week: the presenter on the "Shaman" programme appeared to be a credulous fool, who bothered to go to the top of a hill to release a genie from a bottle of water, in order to "give it back to nature" as the "healer" instructed him (I would have just tipped it down the bog myself).

We could have done, on last night's programme, with a photographic expert to tell us what the deal was with these photos of the healer (whose name escapes me), when he came over all messianic in the cave in Slovenia. What do we reckon was going on there? Weird lighting conditions producing strange effects, or Photoshop? Odd how the film-makers' cameras didn't pick up anything similar, isn't it?
 
Merely slow shutter speeds in low light producing "weird effects" and the camera moving during exposure.
 
Paraphrasing heavily:

Healer: "I'd be happy to meet the specialists but they don't want to, they just it all out of hand"

Oncologist: "Can't comment on the anecdotes I'd need access to their medical records and the like."

Narrator: "Would you be interested in looking into this?"

Oncologist "Yes, but it would take a lot of work and a lot of time, but who cares about that if it will help people?"

Narrator to Healer: "I've got one of the UK leading oncologists that is willing to meet and study what you do"

Healer "I don't want to meet him".
 
Rrose Selavy said:
I saw it but missed the first one. Last night' we were told by the narrator/director he had about 100 "patients" a day paying £25 a time - not a bad earner. No wonder he doesn't do callouts.


Lots of pics of dodgy guru Sai Baba, too I noticed.

Nice to see he keeps his website up to date:


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I did wonder why his website doesn't seem to have been updated since 2004? Mind you, If I'd bagged £3Million since 2004 I wouldn't bother either. :jaw-dropp
 
What was with the pink hand print on the towel?
Why can't the Holy mother just show up on toast like any normal Messiah? :D

saying that, god did make a shocking entrance by knocking a picture over, and the baby Jesus appeared as a holy smudge in a dodgy photo.

The place was full of Mischievous covert stealth deities.:rolleyes:
 
For the lazy folks, here's a collection of the most ridiculous photographs from that website showing "paranormal lights" or the "finger of God".

[qimg]http://www.stephenturoff.org/images/2twoorangep2.jpg[/qimg]
Um, looks like two wooden bars in the way of the flash light to me...

[qimg]http://www.stephenturoff.org/images/8healit.jpg[/qimg]
Clearly, the finger of the photographer God!

[qimg]http://www.stephenturoff.org/images/9bubble.jpg[/qimg]
Now, that's one manifestation of paranormal lights extraordinaire, isn't it.

[qimg]http://www.stephenturoff.org/images/11syhead.jpg[/qimg]
They even dare to show the above image as an example of what-not does manifest around one of their healer buddies. Looks like a bent record cover to me :-)
 
Turoff's been around a while and is probably the UK's most well-known healer (with Matthew Manning in second place, I'd reckon). I recall Randi tackled him in his James Randi: Psychic Investigator series although I don't have the vid clips to hand and can't confirm this. Turoff was featured in another BBC prog a couple of years ago called UK's Worst ... Quacks? in which he was filmed apparently removing material from patients' bodies. He claimed they were diseased body parts. The undercover film operators claimed they were wads of cotton wool.

/trivia
 
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