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Trump's Second Term

Andy_Ross said:
People clinging to wreckage are still a legitimate target apparently.

Ungar-Sargon: You’re using the word shipwrecked to hide the distinction that I am pointing out. If they can get on that debris and call for the rest of the narco terrorists to show up and save them, it is still a legitimate military.

Donovan: But if they're in a scenario where they need to call somebody to be rescued, they are shipwrecked. That's the definition of shipwrecked. And they cannot be targeted.

Ungar-Sargon: If the radio is still working on the boat, it is still a legitimate target

Phillip: You cannot just concoct your own explanation for this.

Ungar-Sargon: This is the law

Phillip: Literally the law says attacking shipwrecked individuals is not allowed.

Ungar-Sargon: You are agreeing with me
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Good luck convincing the judge. They were suspected criminals. Not military. So not a military target. And shooting survivors clinging to the wreckage is murder. Or, if you persuade the judge they were a military target, it's the war crime of murder.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Yes, yes you are.

Watters: It takes two strikes to knock the boat down… how is that a war crime?

Jessica: If there are people who were shipwrecked, which is what these two survivors were—

Watters: They are not survivors, they are terrorists… We're supposed to send a helicopter to rescue him? And then give him first-aid?
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But that's such a hassle. It's so much more convenient to just murder them.

I mean I get that in those old war movies, the baddies machine gunning survivors in the water was bad, but that's because they were the baddies, killing helpless goodies. Don't you see? We're the goodies so if we machine gun baddie survivors that's awesome and the whole cinema stands and whoops and cheers. That's just how the law works and I'm surprised at your not grasping this simple legal point.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Good luck convincing the judge. They were suspected criminals. Not military. So not a military target. And shooting survivors clinging to the wreckage is murder. Or, if you persuade the judge they were a military target, it's the war crime of murder.
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Exactly, the only legal question is whether it was a war crime or simply an extradjudicial murder ordered by Hegseth
 
The Great Zaganza said:
In the pursuit of Fighting Drugs, absolute violation of Laws, Reason or Humanity is not just justified, it is required.
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How long until this policy comes to the mainland? Suspected foreign drug dealers being pursued by cop cars can be stopped with lethal force: replace those tyre-bursting Stingers with landmines or, better yet Stinger missiles, and any survivors can be executed on the spot as they're a threat and a legitimate target so long as they breathe.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
But that's such a hassle. It's so much more convenient to just murder them.

I mean I get that in those old war movies, the baddies machine gunning survivors in the water was bad, but that's because they were the baddies, killing helpless goodies. Don't you see? We're the goodies so if we machine gun baddie survivors that's awesome and the whole cinema stands and whoops and cheers. That's just how the law works and I'm surprised at your not grasping this simple legal point.
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It was done in the Pacific War (Battle of the Bismarck Sea, IIRC) but at least that was a genuine actual war against an enemy that committed multiple war crimes and the troops were possibly still threats
 
Jack by the hedge said:
How long until this policy comes to the mainland? Suspected foreign drug dealers being pursued by cop cars can be stopped with lethal force: replace those tyre-bursting Stingers with landmines or, better yet Stinger missiles, and any survivors can be executed on the spot as they're a threat and a legitimate target so long as they breathe.
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Same goes for terrorists (defined as anyone who opposes the regime in any way), of course. Already they're insisting 'illegals' have no rights and can't receive due process. It'll be the same when they start rounding up 'Antifa terrorists'. Or just killing them.
 
Four Dimensional Chess.

Not a cult.

Sen. Roger Marshall on Trump's health: "I'm a pretty hard worker. I'll work 110 hours a week. He outworks me. He's the first person I've ever known that works harder than I do. He runs around that golf course. He goes through staff members, several groups of them each day. He's in incredible shape right now. And you talk about sharp! He's playing 4 dimensional chess right now."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996204925949272262
 
Andy_Ross said:
Biden Pardons are now null and void.

"Anyone receiving "Pardons," "Commutations," or any other Legal Document so signed, please be advised that said Document has been fully and completely terminated, and is of no Legal effect"

Prepare for arrests and prosecutions.
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not worried about their pardons being reversed later then. that logic used to stop them from doing something stupid.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Four Dimensional Chess.

Not a cult.

Sen. Roger Marshall on Trump's health: "I'm a pretty hard worker. I'll work 110 hours a week. He outworks me. He's the first person I've ever known that works harder than I do. He runs around that golf course. He goes through staff members, several groups of them each day. He's in incredible shape right now. And you talk about sharp! He's playing 4 dimensional chess right now."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996204925949272262
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I'd be surprised if Trump is awake for more than 110 hours a week, far less actually working.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Biden Pardons are now null and void.

"Anyone receiving "Pardons," "Commutations," or any other Legal Document so signed, please be advised that said Document has been fully and completely terminated, and is of no Legal effect"

Prepare for arrests and prosecutions.
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I guess that means the next president --if any-- can undo all of Trump's pardons.
 
Jsm tomorrow

EISEN: Today we learned that the private sector is losing jobs and small business is getting hit really hard, and one of the reasons the ADP cites is tariffs. Do you worry about the economic fallout as tariffs really take hold?

LUTNICK: No no -- it's not tariffs. The Democrat shutdown hurt numbers. Next year the numbers are going to be fantastic.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996236155046498465
 
Yes, the conmen and grifters are advertising already.

Trump: Obamacare is a disaster. I want the money to go to the people and let the people go out and buy their own health care. And I see on television people are advertising now: We will help you buy health care. That's becoming like an industry because of what I said

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995901864978817507
 
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