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Trump's Second Term

U.S. ambassador 'disappointed' with anti-American sentiment in Canada

CBC said:
Finance minister's comments about trade war don't help, Hoekstra says

Asked what surprised him about Canada since starting his new role in April, Pete Hoekstra said Thursday that what's most "unexpected" is the country's feelings about the U.S.

"I'm disappointed that I came to Canada — a Canada that it is very, very difficult to find Canadians who are passionate about the American-Canadian relationship," Hoekstra said at an event hosted by the Halifax Chamber of Commerce.
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But he said a cabinet minister describing what Hoekstra called a "trade dispute" as a "war" is not helping.

Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne used the word "war" multiple times on Tuesday while talking about Canada's response to help Canadian sectors still hard hit by Trump's tariffs.

Steel and aluminum industries, for example, continue to struggle with 50 per cent tariffs on exports to the U.S.
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Full story at the CBC
 
dudalb said:
Sorry, but the GOP will do everything they can to win in 2026..and I don/t see how they will be stopped.
Ypu are trying to find a peaceful wya to stop the slide inot dictatorship, and I feel the time for that is past.
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I think that it's understandable that you feel like that.

I also think that you're falling into their trap, though, just like you've done with their re-imagining of the Second Amendment. If you simply let them dictate the terms of engagement, including how you think, you've already ceded much of the battle and nigh guaranteed your loss. As noted before, even the "peaceful" resistance of Gandhi that you looked down as being infeasible was far less peaceful when the full picture of what happened is taken into account.

Personally, I think that civil war and the big army combat and mass violence that's invoked by that image are similar to Trump's "Big Beautiful Wall" as a solution to immigration problems. It's simple, flashy, easy to understand and conceptualize, and a massive waste of resources and discussion space for remarkably minimal value at addressing the claimed problems even if implemented. This not to oppose the concept of walls as a whole, nor is it saying that targeted application of walls isn't effective. It is saying that the idea that a big wall alone would be a meaningful solution has little in the way of actual merit, though, even if it may come to that.
 
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I'd say there are three ways a mass protest against Trump could go
1: The army takes the side of the protestors. In which case you get a situation like Nepal or the fall of Ceaucescu. Some MAGA aligned police/ICE/militias will hit some civilians, but in general the regime would fall. In which case personal arms *might* help against the loyalist forces.

2: The army remains loyal to the regime. In which case you get things like Tianamen square, the Spring Uprising etc. Tanks/airplanes >>> personal arms. No matter how fortified your personal survivalist shelter/compound is, a bunker buster will remove it without any chance of retaliation. It won't matter if the protestors are armed at all.

3: The army splits, in which case you get a civil war, which would devastate the US and most likely drag the rest of the world into a Nuclear war. Personal weapons are again pointless during the conflict.

But all of this assumes mass protests that actually have the chance of influencing the government. And the most effictive movement opposing the rapid installment of fascism in the US has just been declared a terrorist movement.

What seems to be happening is that most US citizens just hope MAGA won't come for them if they just keep their heads down. Or cheer things on until they become the next on the list.
 
dudalb said:
Guess the did not learn anything from Chamberlin and Munich.......
And I find it incredible that so many here are defending this just because it is a Labor PM who is doing it. Pure blind Partyloyalty,.
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Labour party member here and I can assure you it is not going down well. There are many who see why he's doing it and think it's a daft gamble. Risking credibility with other countries for a ◊◊◊◊ (I'm Scots so guess the word) who'd stab him in the back just on a whim.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
I'd say there are three ways a mass protest against Trump could go
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What seems to be happening is that most US citizens just hope MAGA won't come for them if they just keep their heads down. Or cheer things on until they become the next on the list.
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Ultimately when the first shot is fired, and it happens to be a brown guy firing, the second amendment worshippers will be the first beating their chest about the death of law and order. I think those who keep calling for armed resistance are just agent provocateurs.
 
I just luuuuurve all the pearl clutching from some Merkinanaians over Trump's second state visit.

Chucky and Starmer showed him some shiny baubles (real gold'n'everything!), gave him a decent meal (no burgers and, as I pointed out earlier, some obvious digs at The Donald in the menu), probably had a hot equery wipe his arse and The Donald clapped his little hands in glee...

And yet it was you lot who voted this berk into office, not once, but twice...

Appeasement? You keep using that word, but...
 
Oh yeah, I, not now nor ever have been a LaboUr Party member, just a sometime voter for it, did not at all agree with Starmer over The Donald's little jolly (well, I find I haven't agreed with Starmer on quite a few things...).

But if it kept The Orange Wazzock off the streets and out of trouble for a couple of days, as he was distracted by all the shiny (and Kate Middleton), then mebbe it had a benefit or 2. I mean, he didn't declare war on Chicago or Blatimore, did he?
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
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What seems to be happening is that most US citizens just hope MAGA won't come for them if they just keep their heads down. Or cheer things on until they become the next on the list.
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That is pretty much what we do as humans - we quickly "renormalise" ourselves to our current environment, keep our heads down and continue to live our lives.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
I have absolutely no idea. From outside the US the Dems have sunk into total invisibility. I wonder if that's the same at home too.

My point wasn't about the failings of the Dems though it was about the amazing weirdness of the alt-right culture the shooter seems to have emerged from.
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Like most "mainstream" former left wing parties the Dem leadership have long concluded that a disasterously bad right wing government is preferrable to even the most mild social-democratic one. I.e. they capitulated.
 
stanfr said:
I would substitute 'liberal' for progressive in this sentence. Progressive to me (call it a 'private' definition if you like) means what it says on its face--moving forward. Probably why movements like Andrew Yang's 'forward' party are fine calling themselves progressive. It's a simple acknowledgement that the end-stage capitalism we are in has been an abject failure.
So, if I may ask, who or what do you trust?
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The Forward party self describes as centrist and big tent. And it's also dicthed any pretence at having a manifesto or policy postions.

These are a clear indicator that the party's actual position is "If we get in anywhere we'll govern (at best) as a neo-Thatcherite entity, but we know we'll never get votes from the right so have to pretend not to be so to fool those idiot progressives".
 
Jack by the hedge said:
I'm torn between wanting Trump as far away as possible rather than over here and marvelling at how Starmer seems to have latched onto how easy it is to appease Trump with shiny bling and flattery. If you can save your economy from a several percent hit just by putting up with an unwelcome jerk of a visitor for a few days, maybe that's worth swallowing your pride for.
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Problem is, appeasing TACO has no effect. His handlers are just going to stuff you harder, knowing full well you'll simply turn around, drop your pants, bend over, spread your cheeks and beg "please sir, can I have some more‽"
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Problem is, appeasing TACO has no effect. His handlers are just going to stuff you harder, knowing full well you'll simply turn around, drop your pants, bend over, spread your cheeks and beg "please sir, can I have some more‽"
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This GOP version of Dickens makes me uncomfortable.
 
Blue Mountain said:
As you can see from the screenshot, I could not see the image you were intending to show because it did not appear (to me) in your post. So your post was completely lost on me. I still have no idea what it was about.
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The decline in royal skills of King Charles. He fails to tie a symmetrical Windsor knot. In Windsor castle! He uses a four in hand school boy knot. I cut out Trump, but someone tied his in a half windsor but with a slightly lumpy knot.
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Norman Alexander said:
Apropos of anything else right now...

Saw this comment in passing on Quora. Yes, it's hyperbolic (and funny as ◊◊◊◊), but it does express my opinion on the White House internal operations regime rather well.

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I think that's some very basic attempt 3D chess to cause a rift between Trump and Miller. Don't get me wrong, that would be great for everyone.
But Miller and Trump are so aligned in their ability to just talk and act as if reality was optional that it is hard to believe that they are not basically on the same page, which is just: power and revenge.
 
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