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Trump's Second Term

Tero said:
This effectiveness of the vaccine is the difficulty for MAGA to understand. They once got a flu shot because "the wife talked me into it," got flu that year and never got the vaccine again. They have data! It gave 0% protection in a field trial of 1 patient.

That same MAGA dude would ask around and get some data from trusted buddies as well. Then it would be a field study of 4, at best. Because all the other buddies he has were afraid to take the vaccine.
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There's a article in the latest Skeptical Inquirer about how the condemnation of vaccines as ineffective because they don't provide sterilizing immunity is disingenuous goalpost moving, since it was never claimed that vaccines would provide sterilizing immunity in the first place.
 
Eric Trump: "Two days after I announced this book, and we see exactly what happened to Charlie. That is us being under siege. That is our party, that is our movement, that is God being under siege, that's our Constitution being under siege, that's our American flag being under siege, that's the family unit in this country being under siege."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966520913458847939
 
Andy_Ross said:
“Anyone who says political violence is a problem on both sides and not just from those aligned with the Democrat party should be thrown off the air." - Donald Trump Jr.
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Hey, conveniently, that's what the right-wing wants anyways. Incidentally, I'm seeing that the alleged shooter being used to justify this just happens to be a gun nut from a very Republican family and has been linked to the Groypers, an extremist right-wing group that supposedly hates Kirk because Kirk wasn't overtly antisemitic, white supremacist, homophobic, and stuff like that. None of that matters, though, compared to the grail of controlling the mass media, which is one of the most impactful of the 14 early warning signs of fascism. They'd long since qualified on that front when it comes to the early warning part of things, of course, but they haven't stopped trying to exert ever greater control and are highly unlikely to do so.
 
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Aridas said:
Hey, conveniently, that's what the right-wing wants anyways. Incidentally, I'm seeing that the alleged shooter being used to justify this just happens to be a gun nut from a very Republican family and has been linked to the Groypers, an extremist right-wing group that supposedly hates Kirk because Kirk wasn't overtly antisemitic, white supremacist, homophobic, and stuff like that. None of that matters, though, compared to the grail of controlling the mass media, which is one of the most impactful of the 14 early warning signs of fascism. They'd long since qualified on that front when it comes to the early warning part of things, of course, but they haven't stopped trying to exert ever greater control and are highly unlikely to do so.
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To be fair to Jr, when you're a **** every second of every day it must be difficult to remember mocking one particular violent assault on a political opponent's family member almost three years ago.
 
LDE1976 said:
To be fair to Jr, when you're a **** every second of every day it must be difficult to remember mocking one particular violent assault on a political opponent's family member almost three years ago.
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Even a couple months ago may be too much for his brain. Actual Democratic Party lawmakers were murdered recently and the right did their best to blame Democrats for that, too, despite everything.

I'm not all that interested in kindly assuming stupidity of that caliber, though. He's fairly certainly an idiot, yes, but more than that, he's evil. Perhaps banally so, in that selling hate and lies for personal gain way that's all too common, but that makes it no less evil.
 
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Aridas said:
Even a couple months ago may be too much for his brain. Actual Democratic Party lawmakers were murdered recently.

I'm not all that interested in kindly assuming stupidity of that caliber, though. He's fairly certainly an idiot, yes, but more than that, he's evil. Perhaps banally so, in that selling hate and lies for personal gain way that's all too common, but that makes it no less evil.
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it’s arguably worse than doing it for ideological reasons imo
 
He's such a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ prick.

  • Summary
  • US plans event at UN general assembly to urge more restrictive global asylum rights
  • Plan would mark a shift from post-World War Two asylum framework
  • Critics warn that changes would undermine protections from persecution
  • Trump refugee policy focusing on white South Africans
WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's administration plans to call for sharply narrowing the right to asylum at the United Nations later this month, documents show, as it seeks to undo the post-World War Two framework around humanitarian protection.
State Department officials sketched out plans for an event later this month on the sidelines of the U.N.'s annual general assembly meeting that would call for reframing the global approach to asylum and immigration to reflect Trump's restrictive stance, according to two internal planning documents reviewed by Reuters and a State Department spokesperson.
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In news that totally has nothing to do with other ongoing current events...

TRUMP'S "JUSTICE" DEPT Disappears Study that Proves Most Violence is Caused By Far Right Radicals

It's mildly plausible that it being disappeared will only be temporary, of course - it could be returned after the hubbub or in reaction to notable media coverage. If anyone wants to pretend that it was just coincidence that -

"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists."
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was disappeared at this moment, though, I suppose I can't stop them. I can disdain their foolishness, though.

Also, I think that I should add a little bit of further clarification to this -
Aridas said:
Incidentally, I'm seeing that the alleged shooter being used to justify this just happens to be a gun nut from a very Republican family and has been linked to the Groypers, an extremist right-wing group that supposedly hates Kirk because Kirk wasn't overtly antisemitic, white supremacist, homophobic, and stuff like that.
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I probably should have qualified that better with something like overtly enough or making it clearer that that was the pretense instead of the reality. Perhaps I should also have mentioned that the real conflict looks to me like it had more to do with conflicts over their competition in influencing and recruiting from the same demographic pool rather than the pretenses they put forth.

Of note on why I'm saying that, though -

Kirk said in 2018 that gun violence in Chicago was the fault of “a lack-of-father problem in the Black community.”

Promoting racism was one of Kirk’s most consistent stances as he led the right-wing pressure groups Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.

In 2024, he launched a campaign attacking the legacy of revered civil rights icon Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Kirk said King was “[a] myth has been created and it has grown totally out of control.” At a conference he held the previous year, Kirk said King was “awful” and “not a good person.”


Kirk claimed that the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 had become a “beast” and is an “anti-white weapon.”


In 2023, Kirk said, “I don't believe Black History Month is worth the kind of full month that it is, at all.” He said the celebration “only deepens any sort of racial wounds and creates more bigotry.”


Kirk was a promoter of the racist “great replacement” conspiracy theory, which falsely claims Latino migrants are attempting to replace white people. As part of that crusade in August, he falsely accused Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett, who is Black, of engaging in an “attempt to eliminate the white population in this country.”


In Kirk’s eyes, Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman to serve on the court, was an “unqualified” nominee and the “recipient of affirmative action.”


Following flooding in Texas in July, Kirk said the “death toll likely would not have been as high if it wasn't for DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion].”


Kirk repeatedly pushed anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric, with a specific focus on opposing transgender existence.


During a discussion of gay rights in 2024, Kirk referenced the Bible and noted that passages indicating “lay with another man and be stoned to death” were “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

Discussing Trump’s presidential campaign in 2024, Kirk urged his favored candidate to trigger “Nuremberg-style” trials for doctors performing gender-affirming care if he won. The Nuremberg trials were post-World War II court trials that sought to prosecute leaders of Nazi Germany for crimes against humanity.


Kirk described transgender people as “groomers,” and said transgender children were “mutilat[ing]” their bodies. He also called for transgender athletes to be physically confronted for the purported sin of trying to play sports.


Kirk also used antisemitic stereotypes as part of his broadcasts. In one show, he said, “Jewish dollars” had funded “Cultural Marxist ideas.” In another, he invoked the longstanding antisemitic trope of Jewish control of colleges, Hollywood, and nonprofit groups.


During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, Kirk said vaccine requirements were “medical apartheid” and used his group to oppose vaccination. Kirk also peddled the baseless conspiracy that 1.2 million people died from vaccinations.


After Trump lost the 2020 election, Kirk called for then-Vice President Mike Pence to reject Electoral College votes for President-elect Joe Biden and violate the Constitution.


Kirk’s group also operated a website called Professor Watchlist, which listed college professors’ names and their pictures as part of an attempt to incite harassment against those who deviate from conservative groupthink on a host of issues.
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He was still a hatemonger on pretty much all those fronts, even if the Groypers made a bunch of noise about how he wasn't enough of a hatemonger as part of their competition tactics. Anyways, enough on that, though there's plenty more that can be brought up.

Next up, Trump team resorts to begging white South Africans to immigrate here.

Specifically, the racist ones, of course. So far, they've managed to reach around a hundred out of their goal of thirty thousand.

Tangential to that - Looks like we've got white-only towns in the US, again, as the racists have become ever more emboldened with Trump in the picture.

Elsewhere, it looks like the Epstein revelations have apparently wrapped around to one of the many things about Trump that I feel no shame about having forgotten. Trump sleeping with his "friends'" wives. I now seem to recall stories about how he was manipulative and immoral in doing so and well, found such without a problem. President Trump used to boast about having sex with his friends’ wives, devised calculated infidelity plots. He was and still is an evil ◊◊◊◊◊◊.
 
Aridas said:
If I've read what was said correctly, the guy said truthful and reasonable things in the bit he was fired over, whatever other problems he may have. Maybe it was the fact that he wasn't jumping to conclusions to condemn Democratic Party leaders that was the problem. Nevermind that Republican propaganda is often at least an order of magnitude worse.
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I saw that unfold on MSNBC as it happened. I think a lot of the problem is that he was so obviously unaware of what had been revealed on the broadcast immediately before the moderator gave him the floor. His speculations were so inconsistent with the known facts that I cringed as he spoke, and it seemed to me the moderator cringed as well and was eager to cut off his musings.

When you're on a panel that's being asked to comment on breaking news, but are too lazy to pay attention to the show's leadup to your turn at the mic, it isn't a good look.
 
shyscorpio61
The Hyundai Corp has decided to close ALL FACTORIES in the U.S. until further notice and layoff all American personnel until the Karen Trumper situation can be solved- or the next elections to be rid of Miller/Trump ICE problems!Karen from Georgia running for office not only cost her local area 8500 jobs,but jobs, plant closures & hundreds of billions in investments across the country!Nice going Karen. 👌
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Google AI:
Hyundai operates two automotive manufacturing plants in the U.S.: one in Alabama (Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama) and a new electric vehicle plant in Georgia (Hyundai Motor Group Metaplant America), with a planned steel plant to open in Louisiana in 2028 to support these facilities.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Infamy!

Trump on Biden pardoning members of the J6 committee: “Biden gave them a pardon. He gave people on the committee, congresspeople, a pardon. It is so what they did, what he did to this country will live in infamy.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966491400163279314
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Because pardoning the people who investigated a crime is so much worse than pardoning the thugs who committed it. :rolleyes:

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