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Trump's Second Term
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Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
Trumpelthinskin's Truth Social tirade:
His cultist supporters think this kind of toddler tirade is what a 'real, manly president' acts like.
Armitage72
Philosopher
“There is NOTHING I can say or do that would lead them to write or report honestly about me."
How about saying "I resign."
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
Counterpoint: Trump's weird idiocy is consuming Putin's limited resources in constant inconsequential "negotiations".
The fact that Putin is flying to Alaska raises the question of who is stupider than who.
Meanwhile Ukraine and Europe continue to fight the good fight.
The fact that Putin is flying to Alaska raises the question of who is stupider than who.
Meanwhile Ukraine and Europe continue to fight the good fight.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Dear Donny, the press you don't like ARE writing and reporting about you honestly. So whose problem is it now?
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
Aw bless. We've seen it play out on this very forum. With all the legitimate concerns, everyone still makes up bizarre nonsense. The press Trump doesn't like is every bit as dishonest as all the other press.
Norman Alexander
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Not really. What they have in common is wanting the scoop. Just that some press are happy to scoop Trump manure.
Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
Indeed. Frankly, it's reasonable to say that one shouldn't blindly trust any outlet. On the other hand, it's thoroughly unreasonable to say "The press Trump doesn't like is every bit as dishonest as all the other press." At that point it's willful blindness, though, given the large qualitative and quantitative differences in the dishonesty involved. Equating a business model that cares about truth, even when distorted to some extent by business concerns, with one that really doesn't care about truth and will happily fight against truth if it serves their purposes is some pretty nasty bothsiderism.
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Can you walk me through your thinking? I don't see how it relates to Putin and Trump's relative intelligence.
a_unique_person
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Putin wants pointless negotiations and dragging out any deal as long as possible. He's using Trump's own tactics against him.
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Yeah, I really don't know how this answer is going to play with Trump. Rubio doesn't sing the president's praises. He doesn't say "In this case, Putin can be trusted because he knows not to mess with Trump." Of course part of the interview may have gotten cut off but what I saw was Rubio independently making a case against pointless negotiations, on the heels of his boss's enthusiasm for pointless negotiations. One question I heard, why did we lay out the red carpet for Putin? I am curious if someone here has answers to how protocol typically goes in these events. Maybe they could have rolled out red butcher paper, it might have more significance.Welker plays Rubio a clip of him saying in 2022 that "you can't cut deals with guys" like Putin
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OK I am super confused. Three separate people saying, welll, If Putin says it, it must be true! He's telling nothing but truth: Biden provocation started the war - says Putin. With President Trump there would have been no war - says Putin. The 2020 election was "rigged and stolen" - says Putin. And so it MUST BE TRUE. Why on Earth are they portraying Putin as an individual of great discernment, who can be trusted to tell Americans the truth?
While the secretary of state says, far more accurately and credibly, PUTIN IS A LIAR. Others have said, Russia is actively trying to sabotage us by spreading lies. Then they turn around and effectively say, Putin is telling the truth, this time. He's not just trying to stir **** up. Why the hell believe him about any of this? And how the hell would he "know" the 2020 election was rigged?
Think, monkeys, think!
Blue Mountain
Resident Skeptical Hobbit
As of the close of the day on August 17, my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -1093.
17 August 2025
-1: Trump posts a rant on Truth Social about “Fake News” [495]
-1: Trump claims without evidence that the Democrats are using paid protestors to attack his takeover of Washington [496]
-1: Headline: Trump hiked tariffs on US imports. Now he’s looking at exports–sparking fears of dangerous precedent (Guardian)
References:
495. “It’s incredible how the Fake News violently distorts the TRUTH when it comes to me,” he raged. “There is NOTHING I can say or do that would lead them to write or report honestly about me. I had a great meeting in Alaska on Biden’s stupid War, a war that should have never happened!!!”
In a second post, Trump added, “If I got Russia to give up Moscow as part of the Deal, the Fake News, and their PARTNER, the Radical Left Democrats, would say I made a terrible mistake and a very bad deal. That’s why they are the FAKE NEWS!”
496. “It’s just been found that the Democrats are buying protestors in order to fight my attack on crime. These are criminals who support crime. They are unelectable!”
16 August 2025
-1: Marco Rubio says that Russia will have to “get something” as part of a peace deal
-1: Marco Rubio refuses to say if Putin made any concessions in his meeting with Trump [493]
-1: Time Magazine sums up Trump’s summit with Putin as “stagecraft, not statecraft” [493]
-1: Headline: Trump leaves Alaska without a Ukraine peace deal — and Putin gets a win (CBC)
-1: Headline: Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal (Guardian)
-1: Former vice-president Mike Pence criticizes Trump's handling of Putin [494]
-1: Headline: Trump posted a photo of me sitting by my tent - then a bulldozer arrived (BBC)
References:
493. Raddatz: “Can you name any concessions that Putin made during this meeting?”
Rubio: “I wouldn’t name them on your program.”
493. Time: “Trump is Seduced By Summits, but He Failed to Deliver Again. The Alaska meeting, which concluded without the Ukraine ceasefire Trump had promised, represents the latest chapter in a troubling pattern: the 45th and 47th president’s persistent confusion of stagecraft for statecraft. Where Reagan walked away from Reykjavik rather than accept a bad deal, Trump seems perpetually seduced by the optics of the moment, the handshake photo, the joint press conference that suggests progress where none exists.”
494. Pence: “I served alongside the president for four years. I know his style in dealing with these dictators. It’s the velvet glove ... Putin only understands strength.”
15 August 2025
-1: Trump meets with Vladimir Putin, a man with an open arrest warrant from the ICC for war crimes, on US soil
-1: Ahead of the Alaska summit with Putin, Trump says Russia’s continued attacks on Ukraine are “negotiations” [490]
-1: Trump calls CA governor “incompetent” and praises Russian president Putin as a “smart guy.” [491]
-1: Trump rambles on about the “Russia, Russia, Russia” “hoax” and Russia itself. [492]
-1: Trump repeats a lie from Putin that no country has mail-in voting [493]
-1: Headline: Government papers found in an Alaskan hotel reveal new details of Trump-Putin summit (NPR)
References:
490. Reporter: “We saw that Russia continued its violence into Ukraine last night, launching even more drones. What did you make of that?”
TRUMP: “I think they’re trying to negotiate.”
491. Trump: “Look at California with that horrible governor they have. One of the worst governors in history. He is incompetent, he doesn’t know what he is doing. Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said you can’t have an honest election with mail-in voting.”
492. Trump: “You know, I always had a great relationship with President Putin. And we would have done great things together in terms of, you know. Their land is incredible. The rare earth, the oil gas — it’s incredible. It is the largest piece of land in the world as a nation by far. I think they have 11 timezones if you can believe it, that’s big stuff. But we would have done a lot of great things we had the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax which stopped us from doing that. We would have done so great. But we have the greatest — one of the great hoaxes. I mean, there were others like the election itself and as you know, as you covered better than anyone. But it was a rigged election and a horrible thing that took place in 2020. But we would have had a great relationship but we did amazingly well considering — you know, he would look and see what happened, he would think we’re crazy with the made up Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. So we had something very important and we had a very good meeting today, but we’ll see. I mean it’s, you have to get a deal.”
493. Trump: “Vladimir Putin said something -- one of the most interesting things. He said ‘your election was rigged because you have mail in voting.’ He said, ‘mail in voting, every election -- no country has mail in voting. It’s impossible to have mail in voting and have honest elections.’ And he said that to me because we talked about 2020. He said, ‘you won that election by so much.’”
14 August 2025
0: Trump spins a tale about officials finding an unaccounted for $29 billion in revenue [480]
-1: Tulsi Gabbard announces an investigation into Anthony Fauci for perjury over the source of COVID [481]
-1: Trump: “Mexico does what we tell them to do, and Canada does what we tell them to do.”
-1: Trump links rampant crime in Democrat run cities to transgender people [482]
-1: Trump again insults Elizabeth Warren over her claims to American Indian ancestry [483]
-1: Trump claims Obama and his staff are criminals that should be taken care of [484]
-1: Trump mistakenly claims his budget bill allowed no tax on Social Security [485]
-1: Trump AGAIN claims “trillions of tariff dollars paid by other countries” [486]
-1: Trump is confused if removing 12 million people over 120 years of age from Social Security is good or not [487]
-1: Trump believes that being “fair” in US history is not talking about its racist past [488]
-1: Trump’s crackdown on homeless people robs them of their few possessions and destroys them [489]
-1: Headline: Bondi names DC ’emergency police commissioner’ (The Hill)
References:
480. Trump: “Last week they found $29 billion and they couldn’t figure out where it came from. I said, check the tariff shelf. And they said, ‘How did you know that?’”
481. (Via Xitter) Tulsi Gabbard has confirmed an investigation into Anthony Fauci for perjury and his role in funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as part of efforts to uncover the origins of COVID-19.
482. Trump: “The biggest issue right now is crime. Stopping crime in the cities, and the Democrats are fighting the stopping of crime. So I think that’s like men playing in women’s sports is okay, or transgender for everybody ... it’s rampant in our blue-run cities.”
483. Trump: “Elizabeth Warren said she was an Indian. We call her Pocahontas ... she’s a nutjob ... she’s gotta take a drug test.”
484. (Via Xitter) Trump refers to Obama officials as “Clapper and Comer and that whole group of criminals ... that is a criminal group of people, they are sick people and they are criminals and they should be taken care of.”
485. Trump: “Last month, I signed one big beautiful bill and allowed no tax on Social Security for our great seniors.”
486. Trump: “Now our inflation is down to a perfect number. Hardly any at all. Yet our country is taking in tens of billions of dollars -- trillions of dollars actually in tariffs… paid by other countries.”
487. Trump: “We cleared 12.4 million names listed in the social security database, over 120 years of age. Think of that. Is that right? That is a hell of a statement. I have a feeling that really did not happen.”
488. Trump: “We want the museums to talk about the history of our country in a fair manner, not in a woke manner or in a racist manner, which is what…many of them are doing,”
489. (Via Xitter) “I’m sick to my stomach. DC just out there throwing away the last little bit of possessions unhoused people had. I saw beds, tables, clothing, shoes…all kinds of items being bulldozed and thrown into garbage trucks. Some may have had photos, letters, mementos lost forever. This is sick behavior all for a man who hates poor people and everyone who isn’t a straight, white, republican male.”
13 August 2025
0: Trump invites people to check statistics on the US economy in 12 months: they’ll be fantastic! [465]
0: Newt Gingrich notes Cambodian Monks thank President Trump for stopping the war between Cambodia and Thailand [464]
-1: Trump: “We had a great election in 2020–we won the election by a lot. But it was a rigged election.”
-1: Trump claims he wants to take over more Democrat-run cities the way he did Washington, D.C. [466]
-1: Russians hack, that’s what they do, who cares? [467]
-1: Trump declares he can do anything without Congress in the event of a national emergency [468]
-1: Trump says people should stop calling him a dictator and instead praise him for his actions [469]
-1: Asphalt is a veneer… it fails if the underlying concrete work was ignored [470]
-1: Trump claims the Washington crime stats were a “total fraud” and new stats are coming soon. [471]
-1: Trump posts a 300 word screed about Washington D.C. crime, more false than true, and many contested claims [472]
-1: Trump rambles on about grass, concluding he knows a lot about grass [473]
-1: A US politician named Brewster claims removing corporal punishment from schools caused a collapse [474]
-1: Trump demonstrates his lack of knowledge of the construction industry [475]
-1: Trump praises Pam Bondi for producing more accurate statistics about crime in Washington, D.C. [476]
-1: Trump says with him in charge of the Kenney Center, he’ll get an award he has coveted but been denied [477]
-1: Stephen Miller says the Smithsonian museums shouldn’t tell the truth about the US, only the good things [478]
-1: James Comer (US HR, R-KY) says out loud the administration should be taking over Democrat run cities [479]
-1: Headline: Melania Trump threatens to sue Hunter Biden for $1bn over Epstein claim (BBC)
-1: Peter Navarro repeats his bizarre claim that tariffs are the same as tax cuts [480]
References:
464. Gingrich: “Cambodian Monks thank President Trump for his leadership in stopping the war between Cambodia and Thailand. Hopefully the Nobel Peace Prize Committee will notice.”
465. Trump: “Our country is roaring, you’re going to see some numbers in 12 months when these factories are open, we’re opening factories all over the world—all over the country, but that is all spreading the wealth all over the world.”
466. Trump: “We are going to do something and it’s going to serve for a beacon for New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and other places all over the country. Our whole country is going to be so different and so great. It’s going to be clean and safe and beautiful. People are going to love our flag more than they’ve ever loved it.”
467. Reporter: “There’s new reporting that Russians have hacked into computer systems that manage US federal courts documents. Do you plan to bring it up with Putin?”
Trump: “I guess I could. Are you surprised? They hack in -- what’s what they do.”
468. Reporter: “Your federalization of the police has a 30 day limit unless Congress acts. Are you talking to Congress about extending it?”
Trump: “If it’s a national emergency we can do it without Congress.”
469. Trump: “Already they’re saying, ‘He’s a dictator!” The place is going to hell and we got to stop it. So instead of saying ‘he’s a dictator’ they should say ‘we’re going to join him in making Washington safe.’ They say ‘he’s a dictator!’ and then they end up getting mugged.”
470. Trump: “We have great contractors here. Great road builders. We’re not ripping roads apart so they’re closed for 4 years as they do the concrete bases and you don’t need that. We need a beautiful topping by a very talented asphalt-type person.”
471. Trump: “You’re gonna see a big change in Washington crime stats very soon. Not the stats that they gave, because they turned out to be a total fraud. The real stats. The stats went through the roof. They had a man that was forced to put out stats like they were doing better. They’re not doing better. Crime is the worst it’s ever been.”
472. Trump: “Washington, D.C., has one of the Highest Rates of Crime in the World, more than many of the most violent Third World Countries. The City’s Homicide Rate is higher than places notorious for their violence, such as Mexico City, Bogota, Islamabad, and Addis Ababa Almost ten times higher than Fallujah, Iraq. If D.C. were a State, it would have the highest Homicide Rate of any State in America. The Violent Crime Rate in D.C. has worsened, and the Murder Rate has essentially DOUBLED in just over a decade But these are only the “official” statistics released by corrupt City Officials. The REAL numbers are many times worse. In fact, a Precinct Commander was just suspended for allegedly manipulating the Violent Crime Statistics, and the D.C. Police Union, likewise, says the real numbers are much higher. Because the Democrat Government of D.C. has largely stopped investigating, arresting, and prosecuting most Crime, the published statistics don’t even capture a fraction of the actual Violence. No one is arrested for shoplifting. Citizens living in fear have largely given up on calling the Police, instead choosing not to walk the streets after dark, essentially becoming captive prisoners in their own City. Stores lock up their merchandise behind glass walls. Gang Youth Violence is so common it goes largely unreported. Vehicle Theft in D.C. is more than three times the National Average. Schools are completely dysfunctional. Citizens are afraid to speak up or, call the Police, lest they be targeted. The REAL Crime Rates are probably five to ten times what has been reported. D.C. has been under siege from thugs and killers, but now, D.C. is back under Federal Control where it belongs. The White House is in charge. The Military and our Great Police will liberate this City, scrape away the filth, and make it safe, clean, habitable and beautiful once more!”
473. Trump: “You know, grass has a lifetime like people have a lifetime, and the lifetime of this grass has long been gone. When you look at the parks where the grass is all tired, exhausted. We’re going to redo the grass with the finest grasses. I know a lot about grass.”
474. Brewster: “The schools have to start disciplining kids. They took the paddle out of the school and everything collapsed. We have to get the paddle back.”
475. Trump: “They decide to build a basement under the building in the Potomac River. So in order to do that, you need the biggest pumps that God ever created. And they were pumping their hearts out, but as big as those pumps are, you can’t pump it fast enough because it’s the Potomac River. If the pump were bigger than this room, you couldn’t pump it, but they tried.”
476. Trump: “Bondi is incredible and you will see a big change in Washington crime stats soon. Not the stats they gave. They turned out to be a total fraud. The real stats… You see a big change and people are feeling safe already. I have had so many calls thank you, sir, thank you. They were afraid to walk out. They aren’t afraid anymore.”
477. Trump: “Since 1978 the Kennedy Center honors have been amongst the most prestigious awards. I wanted one, never able to get one. I would have taken it. I waited and waited and waited and I said to hell with it, I’ll become chairman. I will give myself an honor. Next year we’ll honor trump, okay?”
478. Miller: “The Smithsonian is supposed to be a global symbol of American strength, culture and prestige. A place for families and children to celebrate American history and greatness. Instead, the exhibits have clearly been taken over by leftwing activists who have used the Smithsonian as yet one platform to endlessly bash America and rewrite / erase our magnificent story. These activists have obscenely defaced this beloved institution. The Trump Administration will proudly and diligently restore the patriotic glory of America and ensure the Smithsonian is a place that once more inspires love and devotion to this nation, especially among our youngest citizens.”
479. Comer: “We’re gonna support doing this in other cities if it works out in Washington DC. We spend a lot on our military. Our military has been in many countries around the world for the past two decades walking the streets trying to reduce crime. We need to focus on the big cities in America now, and that’s what the president is doing. I think this is an experiment that’s probably needed in a lot of the Democrat-run cities in America.”
480. Navarro: “Are tariffs price hikes or tax cuts? I say they’re tax cuts”
Eisen: “I mean, many economists would say they are tax hikes because ultimately a consumer will pay for some of those increased prices.”
Navarro: “Most economists just don’t agree with us. Who has credibility here?”
12 August 2025
-1: In his usual style, Trump calls on the Fed to lower the federal interest rate [459]
-1: Lindsey Graham call Washington, D.C. “the most dangerous place on the planet.” [460]
-1: Trump again lies about “trillions” of dollars being received in tariffs [461]
-1: Headline: White House to Vet Smithsonian Museums to Fit Trump’s Historical Vision (Wall Street Journal)
-1: Leavitt confirms that monthly jobs reports may be suspended “until they can get the data and methodology in order”
-1: Leavitt: “Ignore the panicans and trust in President Trump. That is our motto at the White House.”
-1: Trump takes another shot at the media [462]
References:
459. Trump: “Jerome “Too Late” Powell must NOW lower the rate. Steve “Manouychin” really gave me a “beauty” when he pushed this loser. The damage he has done by always being Too Late is incalculable. Fortunately, the economy is sooo good that we’ve blown through Powell and the complacent Board. I am, though, considering allowing a major lawsuit against Powell to proceed because of the horrible, and grossly incompetent, job he has done in managing the construction of the Fed Buildings. Three Billion Dollars for a job that should have been a $50 Million Dollar fix up. Not good!”
460. Lindsey Graham: “It’s hard to make America great again when the capital of America is the most dangerous place on the planet. I’m going to create a D.C. Security fund to allow the president to hire more police officers. Well done, Mr. President.”
461. Trump: “Trillions of Dollars are being taken in on Tariffs, which has been incredible for our Country, its Stock Market, its General Wealth, and just about everything else. It has been proven, that even at this late stage, Tariffs have not caused Inflation, or any other problems for Country, other than massive amounts of CASH pouring into our Treasury’s coffers. Also, it has been shown that, for the most part, Consumers aren’t even paying these Tariffs, it is mostly Companies and Governments, many of them Foreign, picking up the tabs. But David Solomon and Goldman Sachs refuse to give credit where credit is due. They made a bad prediction a long time ago on both the Market repercussion and the Tariffs themselves, and they were wrong, just like they are wrong about so much else. I think that David should go out and get himself a new Economist or, maybe, he ought to just focus on being a DJ, and not bother running a major Financial Institution.”
462. Trump. “Very unfair media is at work on my meeting with Putin. Constantly quoting fired losers and really dumb people like John Bolton, who just said that, even though the meeting is on American soil, “Putin has already won.”
What’s that all about? We are winning on EVERYTHING. The Fake News is working overtime (No tax on overtime!). If I got Moscow and Leningrad free, as part of the deal with Russia, the Fake News would say that I made a bad deal! But now they’ve been caught. Look at all of the real news that’s coming out about their CORRUPTION.
They are sick and dishonest people, who probably hate our Country. But it doesn’t matter because we are winning on everything!!! MAGA”
11 August 2025
-1: “Liberation Day” for Washington, D.C. as White House sends in troops and assumes direct control of its police [454]
-1: Above despite the fact crime is at a 30 year low in the city
-1: Cherry-picked handout at news conference announcing above shows high crime rate in D.C., but ignores Houston, TX
-1: Handout at above news conference misspells “Ottawa” as “Ottowa”
-1: Trump says he’s considering similar action for New York, Chicago, and other cities [455]
-1: Trump rambles on about something something 20% [456]
-1: Once again Trump declares he knows “everything about <something>” (in this case, real estate) [457]
-1: Once again Trump shows he has no clue about how forest fires work [458]
References:
454. Trump: “Washington, D.C. will be LIBERATED today! Crime, Savagery, Filth, and Scum will DISAPPEAR. I will, MAKE OUR CAPITAL GREAT AGAIN! The days of ruthlessly killing, or hurting, innocent people, are OVER! I quickly fixed the Border (ZERO ILLEGALS in last 3 months!), D.C. is next!!! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DJT”
455. (Via Xitter): Trump now says he’s considering using the same federal takeover he just imposed on Washington, D.C., to seize control of New York, Chicago, and “other cities.”Translation: this isn’t a one-off, it’s a blueprint for putting blue cities under direct White House rule.
456. Trump: “I said, ‘Listen, I want 20% if I’m going to approve this for you for the country.’ I don’t want it myself. Every time I say like, 747 -- I want. I want, I want, yeah. For the Air Force. So I just want to -- when I say ‘I want 20,’ I want for the country. I only care about the country. I don’t care about myself.”
457. Trump: :Now they talk about putting low income housing there, can you believe this? I love low income housing. I made money with it. I built low income housing. I know more about low income housing and luxury houses, I know about everything real estate. They want to replace some of those homes with low income housing.”
458. Q: “Could your recent dustups with Newsom impact wildfire relief?”
Trump: “Sure, maybe. He shouldn’t have fires like that. You clean the floor of your forest and you won’t have any forest fires.”
10 August 2025
-1: Pete Hegseth reposts a CNN segment where a pastor says votes should be by household, with the head casting it [451]
-1: Trump posts a rant on social media about forcing homeless people out of Washington, DC [452]
-1: Trump accuses, without evidence, Nancy Pelosi and her husband of insider trading [453]
References:
451. (Via Xitter): Pete Hegseth reposted this CNN segment about a pastor who says women shouldn’t vote: “In my ideal society, we would vote as households. I would ordinarily be the one to cast the vote…” said the pastor
452. Trump: “We’re having a News Conference tomorrow in the White House. I’m going to make our Capital safer and more beautiful than it ever was before. The Homeless have to move out, IMMEDIATELY. We will give you places to stay, but FAR from the Capital. The Criminals, you don’t have to move out. We’re going to put you in jail where you belong. It’s all going to happen very fast, just like the Border. We went from millions pouring in, to ZERO in the last few months. This will be easier - Be prepared! There will be no “MR. NICE GUY.” We want our Capital BACK. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
453. Trump: “Crooked Nancy Pelosi, and her very “interesting” husband, beat ever Hedge Fund in 2024. In other words, these two very average “minds” beat ALL of the Super Geniuses on Wall Street, thousands of them. It’s all INSIDE INFORMATION! Is anybody looking into this??? She is a disgusting degenerate, who Impeached me twice, on NO GROUNDS, and LOST! How are you feeling now, Nancy???”
9 August 2025
-1: Trump uses the Department of Justice to investigate New York attorney-general Letitia James [449]
-1: White House claims Washingon, DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world [450]
References:
449. (Via Xitter) Trump’s DOJ — led by Pam Bondi — has opened an investigation into NY AG Letitia James for “violating Trump’s civil rights” when she successfully won a $500M fraud case against him. The US Attorney in Albany has already convened a grand jury and issued subpoenas to James. They even issued a second subpoena over her 2020 case against the NRA — the one that forced Wayne LaPierre out and crippled the gun lobby’s power. This is what happens in a banana republic: the criminals go after those who hold them accountable.
450. “On Monday a Press Conference will be held at the White House which will, essentially, stop violent crime in Washington, D.C. It has become one of the most dangerous cities anywhere in the World. It will soon be one of the safest...” - President Donald J. Trump
8 August 2025
-1: Mathematically challenged Stephen Miller claims Democrats won 20-30 House seats by including illegals in the census
-1: Trump posts a self-aggrandizing post to his social media account [447]
-1: Trump’s plan for peace between Ukraine and Russia involves Russia keeping land it stole from Ukraine [448]
References:
447. Trump: “Tariffs are having a huge positive impact on the Stock Market. Almost every day, new records are set. In addition, Hundreds of Billions of Dollars are pouring into our Country’s coffers. If a Radical Left Court ruled against us at this late date, in an attempt to bring down or disturb the largest amount of money, wealth creation and influence the U.S.A. has ever seen, it would be impossible to ever recover, or pay back, these massive sums of money and honor. It would be 1929 all over again, a GREAT DEPRESSION! If they were going to rule against the wealth, strength, and power of America, they should have done so LONG AGO, at the beginning of the case, where our entire Country, while never having a chance at this kind of GREATNESS again, would not have been put in 1929 style jeopardy. There is no way America could recover from such a judicial tragedy, but I know our Court System better than anyone, there is no one in history that has gone through the trials, tribulations and uncertainties such as I, and absolutely terrible, but also amazingly beautiful, things can happened. Our Country deserves SUCCESS AND GREATNESS, NOT TURMOIL, FAILURE, AND DISGRACE. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
448. Reporter: “Will Zelenskyy have to give up territory?”
Trump: “So we are looking at that but we are actually looking to get some back. And some swapping. It is complicated. It is very complicated. We will get some back, and we will get some switched. There will be some swapping of territories to the betterment of both. But we will be talking about that either later tomorrow or whatever.”
17 August 2025
-1: Trump posts a rant on Truth Social about “Fake News” [495]
-1: Trump claims without evidence that the Democrats are using paid protestors to attack his takeover of Washington [496]
-1: Headline: Trump hiked tariffs on US imports. Now he’s looking at exports–sparking fears of dangerous precedent (Guardian)
References:
495. “It’s incredible how the Fake News violently distorts the TRUTH when it comes to me,” he raged. “There is NOTHING I can say or do that would lead them to write or report honestly about me. I had a great meeting in Alaska on Biden’s stupid War, a war that should have never happened!!!”
In a second post, Trump added, “If I got Russia to give up Moscow as part of the Deal, the Fake News, and their PARTNER, the Radical Left Democrats, would say I made a terrible mistake and a very bad deal. That’s why they are the FAKE NEWS!”
496. “It’s just been found that the Democrats are buying protestors in order to fight my attack on crime. These are criminals who support crime. They are unelectable!”
16 August 2025
-1: Marco Rubio says that Russia will have to “get something” as part of a peace deal
-1: Marco Rubio refuses to say if Putin made any concessions in his meeting with Trump [493]
-1: Time Magazine sums up Trump’s summit with Putin as “stagecraft, not statecraft” [493]
-1: Headline: Trump leaves Alaska without a Ukraine peace deal — and Putin gets a win (CBC)
-1: Headline: Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal (Guardian)
-1: Former vice-president Mike Pence criticizes Trump's handling of Putin [494]
-1: Headline: Trump posted a photo of me sitting by my tent - then a bulldozer arrived (BBC)
References:
493. Raddatz: “Can you name any concessions that Putin made during this meeting?”
Rubio: “I wouldn’t name them on your program.”
493. Time: “Trump is Seduced By Summits, but He Failed to Deliver Again. The Alaska meeting, which concluded without the Ukraine ceasefire Trump had promised, represents the latest chapter in a troubling pattern: the 45th and 47th president’s persistent confusion of stagecraft for statecraft. Where Reagan walked away from Reykjavik rather than accept a bad deal, Trump seems perpetually seduced by the optics of the moment, the handshake photo, the joint press conference that suggests progress where none exists.”
494. Pence: “I served alongside the president for four years. I know his style in dealing with these dictators. It’s the velvet glove ... Putin only understands strength.”
15 August 2025
-1: Trump meets with Vladimir Putin, a man with an open arrest warrant from the ICC for war crimes, on US soil
-1: Ahead of the Alaska summit with Putin, Trump says Russia’s continued attacks on Ukraine are “negotiations” [490]
-1: Trump calls CA governor “incompetent” and praises Russian president Putin as a “smart guy.” [491]
-1: Trump rambles on about the “Russia, Russia, Russia” “hoax” and Russia itself. [492]
-1: Trump repeats a lie from Putin that no country has mail-in voting [493]
-1: Headline: Government papers found in an Alaskan hotel reveal new details of Trump-Putin summit (NPR)
References:
490. Reporter: “We saw that Russia continued its violence into Ukraine last night, launching even more drones. What did you make of that?”
TRUMP: “I think they’re trying to negotiate.”
491. Trump: “Look at California with that horrible governor they have. One of the worst governors in history. He is incompetent, he doesn’t know what he is doing. Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said you can’t have an honest election with mail-in voting.”
492. Trump: “You know, I always had a great relationship with President Putin. And we would have done great things together in terms of, you know. Their land is incredible. The rare earth, the oil gas — it’s incredible. It is the largest piece of land in the world as a nation by far. I think they have 11 timezones if you can believe it, that’s big stuff. But we would have done a lot of great things we had the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax which stopped us from doing that. We would have done so great. But we have the greatest — one of the great hoaxes. I mean, there were others like the election itself and as you know, as you covered better than anyone. But it was a rigged election and a horrible thing that took place in 2020. But we would have had a great relationship but we did amazingly well considering — you know, he would look and see what happened, he would think we’re crazy with the made up Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. So we had something very important and we had a very good meeting today, but we’ll see. I mean it’s, you have to get a deal.”
493. Trump: “Vladimir Putin said something -- one of the most interesting things. He said ‘your election was rigged because you have mail in voting.’ He said, ‘mail in voting, every election -- no country has mail in voting. It’s impossible to have mail in voting and have honest elections.’ And he said that to me because we talked about 2020. He said, ‘you won that election by so much.’”
14 August 2025
0: Trump spins a tale about officials finding an unaccounted for $29 billion in revenue [480]
-1: Tulsi Gabbard announces an investigation into Anthony Fauci for perjury over the source of COVID [481]
-1: Trump: “Mexico does what we tell them to do, and Canada does what we tell them to do.”
-1: Trump links rampant crime in Democrat run cities to transgender people [482]
-1: Trump again insults Elizabeth Warren over her claims to American Indian ancestry [483]
-1: Trump claims Obama and his staff are criminals that should be taken care of [484]
-1: Trump mistakenly claims his budget bill allowed no tax on Social Security [485]
-1: Trump AGAIN claims “trillions of tariff dollars paid by other countries” [486]
-1: Trump is confused if removing 12 million people over 120 years of age from Social Security is good or not [487]
-1: Trump believes that being “fair” in US history is not talking about its racist past [488]
-1: Trump’s crackdown on homeless people robs them of their few possessions and destroys them [489]
-1: Headline: Bondi names DC ’emergency police commissioner’ (The Hill)
References:
480. Trump: “Last week they found $29 billion and they couldn’t figure out where it came from. I said, check the tariff shelf. And they said, ‘How did you know that?’”
481. (Via Xitter) Tulsi Gabbard has confirmed an investigation into Anthony Fauci for perjury and his role in funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as part of efforts to uncover the origins of COVID-19.
482. Trump: “The biggest issue right now is crime. Stopping crime in the cities, and the Democrats are fighting the stopping of crime. So I think that’s like men playing in women’s sports is okay, or transgender for everybody ... it’s rampant in our blue-run cities.”
483. Trump: “Elizabeth Warren said she was an Indian. We call her Pocahontas ... she’s a nutjob ... she’s gotta take a drug test.”
484. (Via Xitter) Trump refers to Obama officials as “Clapper and Comer and that whole group of criminals ... that is a criminal group of people, they are sick people and they are criminals and they should be taken care of.”
485. Trump: “Last month, I signed one big beautiful bill and allowed no tax on Social Security for our great seniors.”
486. Trump: “Now our inflation is down to a perfect number. Hardly any at all. Yet our country is taking in tens of billions of dollars -- trillions of dollars actually in tariffs… paid by other countries.”
487. Trump: “We cleared 12.4 million names listed in the social security database, over 120 years of age. Think of that. Is that right? That is a hell of a statement. I have a feeling that really did not happen.”
488. Trump: “We want the museums to talk about the history of our country in a fair manner, not in a woke manner or in a racist manner, which is what…many of them are doing,”
489. (Via Xitter) “I’m sick to my stomach. DC just out there throwing away the last little bit of possessions unhoused people had. I saw beds, tables, clothing, shoes…all kinds of items being bulldozed and thrown into garbage trucks. Some may have had photos, letters, mementos lost forever. This is sick behavior all for a man who hates poor people and everyone who isn’t a straight, white, republican male.”
13 August 2025
0: Trump invites people to check statistics on the US economy in 12 months: they’ll be fantastic! [465]
0: Newt Gingrich notes Cambodian Monks thank President Trump for stopping the war between Cambodia and Thailand [464]
-1: Trump: “We had a great election in 2020–we won the election by a lot. But it was a rigged election.”
-1: Trump claims he wants to take over more Democrat-run cities the way he did Washington, D.C. [466]
-1: Russians hack, that’s what they do, who cares? [467]
-1: Trump declares he can do anything without Congress in the event of a national emergency [468]
-1: Trump says people should stop calling him a dictator and instead praise him for his actions [469]
-1: Asphalt is a veneer… it fails if the underlying concrete work was ignored [470]
-1: Trump claims the Washington crime stats were a “total fraud” and new stats are coming soon. [471]
-1: Trump posts a 300 word screed about Washington D.C. crime, more false than true, and many contested claims [472]
-1: Trump rambles on about grass, concluding he knows a lot about grass [473]
-1: A US politician named Brewster claims removing corporal punishment from schools caused a collapse [474]
-1: Trump demonstrates his lack of knowledge of the construction industry [475]
-1: Trump praises Pam Bondi for producing more accurate statistics about crime in Washington, D.C. [476]
-1: Trump says with him in charge of the Kenney Center, he’ll get an award he has coveted but been denied [477]
-1: Stephen Miller says the Smithsonian museums shouldn’t tell the truth about the US, only the good things [478]
-1: James Comer (US HR, R-KY) says out loud the administration should be taking over Democrat run cities [479]
-1: Headline: Melania Trump threatens to sue Hunter Biden for $1bn over Epstein claim (BBC)
-1: Peter Navarro repeats his bizarre claim that tariffs are the same as tax cuts [480]
References:
464. Gingrich: “Cambodian Monks thank President Trump for his leadership in stopping the war between Cambodia and Thailand. Hopefully the Nobel Peace Prize Committee will notice.”
465. Trump: “Our country is roaring, you’re going to see some numbers in 12 months when these factories are open, we’re opening factories all over the world—all over the country, but that is all spreading the wealth all over the world.”
466. Trump: “We are going to do something and it’s going to serve for a beacon for New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and other places all over the country. Our whole country is going to be so different and so great. It’s going to be clean and safe and beautiful. People are going to love our flag more than they’ve ever loved it.”
467. Reporter: “There’s new reporting that Russians have hacked into computer systems that manage US federal courts documents. Do you plan to bring it up with Putin?”
Trump: “I guess I could. Are you surprised? They hack in -- what’s what they do.”
468. Reporter: “Your federalization of the police has a 30 day limit unless Congress acts. Are you talking to Congress about extending it?”
Trump: “If it’s a national emergency we can do it without Congress.”
469. Trump: “Already they’re saying, ‘He’s a dictator!” The place is going to hell and we got to stop it. So instead of saying ‘he’s a dictator’ they should say ‘we’re going to join him in making Washington safe.’ They say ‘he’s a dictator!’ and then they end up getting mugged.”
470. Trump: “We have great contractors here. Great road builders. We’re not ripping roads apart so they’re closed for 4 years as they do the concrete bases and you don’t need that. We need a beautiful topping by a very talented asphalt-type person.”
471. Trump: “You’re gonna see a big change in Washington crime stats very soon. Not the stats that they gave, because they turned out to be a total fraud. The real stats. The stats went through the roof. They had a man that was forced to put out stats like they were doing better. They’re not doing better. Crime is the worst it’s ever been.”
472. Trump: “Washington, D.C., has one of the Highest Rates of Crime in the World, more than many of the most violent Third World Countries. The City’s Homicide Rate is higher than places notorious for their violence, such as Mexico City, Bogota, Islamabad, and Addis Ababa Almost ten times higher than Fallujah, Iraq. If D.C. were a State, it would have the highest Homicide Rate of any State in America. The Violent Crime Rate in D.C. has worsened, and the Murder Rate has essentially DOUBLED in just over a decade But these are only the “official” statistics released by corrupt City Officials. The REAL numbers are many times worse. In fact, a Precinct Commander was just suspended for allegedly manipulating the Violent Crime Statistics, and the D.C. Police Union, likewise, says the real numbers are much higher. Because the Democrat Government of D.C. has largely stopped investigating, arresting, and prosecuting most Crime, the published statistics don’t even capture a fraction of the actual Violence. No one is arrested for shoplifting. Citizens living in fear have largely given up on calling the Police, instead choosing not to walk the streets after dark, essentially becoming captive prisoners in their own City. Stores lock up their merchandise behind glass walls. Gang Youth Violence is so common it goes largely unreported. Vehicle Theft in D.C. is more than three times the National Average. Schools are completely dysfunctional. Citizens are afraid to speak up or, call the Police, lest they be targeted. The REAL Crime Rates are probably five to ten times what has been reported. D.C. has been under siege from thugs and killers, but now, D.C. is back under Federal Control where it belongs. The White House is in charge. The Military and our Great Police will liberate this City, scrape away the filth, and make it safe, clean, habitable and beautiful once more!”
473. Trump: “You know, grass has a lifetime like people have a lifetime, and the lifetime of this grass has long been gone. When you look at the parks where the grass is all tired, exhausted. We’re going to redo the grass with the finest grasses. I know a lot about grass.”
474. Brewster: “The schools have to start disciplining kids. They took the paddle out of the school and everything collapsed. We have to get the paddle back.”
475. Trump: “They decide to build a basement under the building in the Potomac River. So in order to do that, you need the biggest pumps that God ever created. And they were pumping their hearts out, but as big as those pumps are, you can’t pump it fast enough because it’s the Potomac River. If the pump were bigger than this room, you couldn’t pump it, but they tried.”
476. Trump: “Bondi is incredible and you will see a big change in Washington crime stats soon. Not the stats they gave. They turned out to be a total fraud. The real stats… You see a big change and people are feeling safe already. I have had so many calls thank you, sir, thank you. They were afraid to walk out. They aren’t afraid anymore.”
477. Trump: “Since 1978 the Kennedy Center honors have been amongst the most prestigious awards. I wanted one, never able to get one. I would have taken it. I waited and waited and waited and I said to hell with it, I’ll become chairman. I will give myself an honor. Next year we’ll honor trump, okay?”
478. Miller: “The Smithsonian is supposed to be a global symbol of American strength, culture and prestige. A place for families and children to celebrate American history and greatness. Instead, the exhibits have clearly been taken over by leftwing activists who have used the Smithsonian as yet one platform to endlessly bash America and rewrite / erase our magnificent story. These activists have obscenely defaced this beloved institution. The Trump Administration will proudly and diligently restore the patriotic glory of America and ensure the Smithsonian is a place that once more inspires love and devotion to this nation, especially among our youngest citizens.”
479. Comer: “We’re gonna support doing this in other cities if it works out in Washington DC. We spend a lot on our military. Our military has been in many countries around the world for the past two decades walking the streets trying to reduce crime. We need to focus on the big cities in America now, and that’s what the president is doing. I think this is an experiment that’s probably needed in a lot of the Democrat-run cities in America.”
480. Navarro: “Are tariffs price hikes or tax cuts? I say they’re tax cuts”
Eisen: “I mean, many economists would say they are tax hikes because ultimately a consumer will pay for some of those increased prices.”
Navarro: “Most economists just don’t agree with us. Who has credibility here?”
12 August 2025
-1: In his usual style, Trump calls on the Fed to lower the federal interest rate [459]
-1: Lindsey Graham call Washington, D.C. “the most dangerous place on the planet.” [460]
-1: Trump again lies about “trillions” of dollars being received in tariffs [461]
-1: Headline: White House to Vet Smithsonian Museums to Fit Trump’s Historical Vision (Wall Street Journal)
-1: Leavitt confirms that monthly jobs reports may be suspended “until they can get the data and methodology in order”
-1: Leavitt: “Ignore the panicans and trust in President Trump. That is our motto at the White House.”
-1: Trump takes another shot at the media [462]
References:
459. Trump: “Jerome “Too Late” Powell must NOW lower the rate. Steve “Manouychin” really gave me a “beauty” when he pushed this loser. The damage he has done by always being Too Late is incalculable. Fortunately, the economy is sooo good that we’ve blown through Powell and the complacent Board. I am, though, considering allowing a major lawsuit against Powell to proceed because of the horrible, and grossly incompetent, job he has done in managing the construction of the Fed Buildings. Three Billion Dollars for a job that should have been a $50 Million Dollar fix up. Not good!”
460. Lindsey Graham: “It’s hard to make America great again when the capital of America is the most dangerous place on the planet. I’m going to create a D.C. Security fund to allow the president to hire more police officers. Well done, Mr. President.”
461. Trump: “Trillions of Dollars are being taken in on Tariffs, which has been incredible for our Country, its Stock Market, its General Wealth, and just about everything else. It has been proven, that even at this late stage, Tariffs have not caused Inflation, or any other problems for Country, other than massive amounts of CASH pouring into our Treasury’s coffers. Also, it has been shown that, for the most part, Consumers aren’t even paying these Tariffs, it is mostly Companies and Governments, many of them Foreign, picking up the tabs. But David Solomon and Goldman Sachs refuse to give credit where credit is due. They made a bad prediction a long time ago on both the Market repercussion and the Tariffs themselves, and they were wrong, just like they are wrong about so much else. I think that David should go out and get himself a new Economist or, maybe, he ought to just focus on being a DJ, and not bother running a major Financial Institution.”
462. Trump. “Very unfair media is at work on my meeting with Putin. Constantly quoting fired losers and really dumb people like John Bolton, who just said that, even though the meeting is on American soil, “Putin has already won.”
What’s that all about? We are winning on EVERYTHING. The Fake News is working overtime (No tax on overtime!). If I got Moscow and Leningrad free, as part of the deal with Russia, the Fake News would say that I made a bad deal! But now they’ve been caught. Look at all of the real news that’s coming out about their CORRUPTION.
They are sick and dishonest people, who probably hate our Country. But it doesn’t matter because we are winning on everything!!! MAGA”
11 August 2025
-1: “Liberation Day” for Washington, D.C. as White House sends in troops and assumes direct control of its police [454]
-1: Above despite the fact crime is at a 30 year low in the city
-1: Cherry-picked handout at news conference announcing above shows high crime rate in D.C., but ignores Houston, TX
-1: Handout at above news conference misspells “Ottawa” as “Ottowa”
-1: Trump says he’s considering similar action for New York, Chicago, and other cities [455]
-1: Trump rambles on about something something 20% [456]
-1: Once again Trump declares he knows “everything about <something>” (in this case, real estate) [457]
-1: Once again Trump shows he has no clue about how forest fires work [458]
References:
454. Trump: “Washington, D.C. will be LIBERATED today! Crime, Savagery, Filth, and Scum will DISAPPEAR. I will, MAKE OUR CAPITAL GREAT AGAIN! The days of ruthlessly killing, or hurting, innocent people, are OVER! I quickly fixed the Border (ZERO ILLEGALS in last 3 months!), D.C. is next!!! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DJT”
455. (Via Xitter): Trump now says he’s considering using the same federal takeover he just imposed on Washington, D.C., to seize control of New York, Chicago, and “other cities.”Translation: this isn’t a one-off, it’s a blueprint for putting blue cities under direct White House rule.
456. Trump: “I said, ‘Listen, I want 20% if I’m going to approve this for you for the country.’ I don’t want it myself. Every time I say like, 747 -- I want. I want, I want, yeah. For the Air Force. So I just want to -- when I say ‘I want 20,’ I want for the country. I only care about the country. I don’t care about myself.”
457. Trump: :Now they talk about putting low income housing there, can you believe this? I love low income housing. I made money with it. I built low income housing. I know more about low income housing and luxury houses, I know about everything real estate. They want to replace some of those homes with low income housing.”
458. Q: “Could your recent dustups with Newsom impact wildfire relief?”
Trump: “Sure, maybe. He shouldn’t have fires like that. You clean the floor of your forest and you won’t have any forest fires.”
10 August 2025
-1: Pete Hegseth reposts a CNN segment where a pastor says votes should be by household, with the head casting it [451]
-1: Trump posts a rant on social media about forcing homeless people out of Washington, DC [452]
-1: Trump accuses, without evidence, Nancy Pelosi and her husband of insider trading [453]
References:
451. (Via Xitter): Pete Hegseth reposted this CNN segment about a pastor who says women shouldn’t vote: “In my ideal society, we would vote as households. I would ordinarily be the one to cast the vote…” said the pastor
452. Trump: “We’re having a News Conference tomorrow in the White House. I’m going to make our Capital safer and more beautiful than it ever was before. The Homeless have to move out, IMMEDIATELY. We will give you places to stay, but FAR from the Capital. The Criminals, you don’t have to move out. We’re going to put you in jail where you belong. It’s all going to happen very fast, just like the Border. We went from millions pouring in, to ZERO in the last few months. This will be easier - Be prepared! There will be no “MR. NICE GUY.” We want our Capital BACK. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
453. Trump: “Crooked Nancy Pelosi, and her very “interesting” husband, beat ever Hedge Fund in 2024. In other words, these two very average “minds” beat ALL of the Super Geniuses on Wall Street, thousands of them. It’s all INSIDE INFORMATION! Is anybody looking into this??? She is a disgusting degenerate, who Impeached me twice, on NO GROUNDS, and LOST! How are you feeling now, Nancy???”
9 August 2025
-1: Trump uses the Department of Justice to investigate New York attorney-general Letitia James [449]
-1: White House claims Washingon, DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world [450]
References:
449. (Via Xitter) Trump’s DOJ — led by Pam Bondi — has opened an investigation into NY AG Letitia James for “violating Trump’s civil rights” when she successfully won a $500M fraud case against him. The US Attorney in Albany has already convened a grand jury and issued subpoenas to James. They even issued a second subpoena over her 2020 case against the NRA — the one that forced Wayne LaPierre out and crippled the gun lobby’s power. This is what happens in a banana republic: the criminals go after those who hold them accountable.
450. “On Monday a Press Conference will be held at the White House which will, essentially, stop violent crime in Washington, D.C. It has become one of the most dangerous cities anywhere in the World. It will soon be one of the safest...” - President Donald J. Trump
8 August 2025
-1: Mathematically challenged Stephen Miller claims Democrats won 20-30 House seats by including illegals in the census
-1: Trump posts a self-aggrandizing post to his social media account [447]
-1: Trump’s plan for peace between Ukraine and Russia involves Russia keeping land it stole from Ukraine [448]
References:
447. Trump: “Tariffs are having a huge positive impact on the Stock Market. Almost every day, new records are set. In addition, Hundreds of Billions of Dollars are pouring into our Country’s coffers. If a Radical Left Court ruled against us at this late date, in an attempt to bring down or disturb the largest amount of money, wealth creation and influence the U.S.A. has ever seen, it would be impossible to ever recover, or pay back, these massive sums of money and honor. It would be 1929 all over again, a GREAT DEPRESSION! If they were going to rule against the wealth, strength, and power of America, they should have done so LONG AGO, at the beginning of the case, where our entire Country, while never having a chance at this kind of GREATNESS again, would not have been put in 1929 style jeopardy. There is no way America could recover from such a judicial tragedy, but I know our Court System better than anyone, there is no one in history that has gone through the trials, tribulations and uncertainties such as I, and absolutely terrible, but also amazingly beautiful, things can happened. Our Country deserves SUCCESS AND GREATNESS, NOT TURMOIL, FAILURE, AND DISGRACE. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
448. Reporter: “Will Zelenskyy have to give up territory?”
Trump: “So we are looking at that but we are actually looking to get some back. And some swapping. It is complicated. It is very complicated. We will get some back, and we will get some switched. There will be some swapping of territories to the betterment of both. But we will be talking about that either later tomorrow or whatever.”
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
If Trump and EmptyG say it's true because Putin said it, (a) it's a lie, and (b) they are Russian disinfo agents.
EHocking
Penultimate Amazing
The TrumPutin administration just does as they are told.
Case in point the annoucement of Putin's conditions for the surrender of Ukraine the day before Zelensky arrives at the White House.
W.D.Clinger
Philosopher
The real question is how anyone could still think the question of which is stupider could still be a real question.
@theprestige might be pointing out that each of Putin's flights took about two hours longer than Trump's flights, so this summit wasted more of Putin's time than Trump's. That might well be the most convincing way to spin this summit as a win for Trump.
Wow, that's quite the take.
The pundits I have read seem to agree that being feted by Trump helps to bolster Putin's position at home and with countries in Africa and Asia where Russia continues to wield influence.
The Great Zaganza
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the real winner, as always, is China, which wants the conflict to drag on forever without a conclusion, as it puts Russia deeper in its pocket and saps Western attention and resources away from Asia.
Trump is doing exactly what Xi wants.
Trump is doing exactly what Xi wants.
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On a side note on Kid Balls getting the Medal of Freedom for getting his ass handed to him: I might be onboard with Trump handing them out like candy as long as we get to beat the snot out of everyone who receives one.
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Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
Putain probably didn't say a single one of those things ascribed to him by TACO. TACO's gone so round the bend he's living in a world that's 100% make believe.