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Trump's Second Term

Aridas said:
... This sorta begs the question of how sane is Trump, really?
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The thing is, he's always talked like that. It's not a sign of encroaching dementia, as he's never spoken in coherent sentences. You have to assemble whatever you think he's saying from piles of fragments like those.

As someone said just the other day, he's not literally stupid, even though to all intents and purposes he sounds like it. He is, perhaps, functionally stupid.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
The thing is,
he's always talked like that. It's not a sign of encroaching dementia, as he's never spoken in coherent sentences. You have to assemble whatever you think he's saying from piles of fragments like those.

As someone said just the other day, he's not literally stupid, even though to all intents and purposes he sounds like it. He is, perhaps, functionally stupid.
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No he hasn't. If you go back to just the early 2000s he could form coherent sentences - what he said was still ignorant and vile.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
The thing is, he's always talked like that. It's not a sign of encroaching dementia, as he's never spoken in coherent sentences. You have to assemble whatever you think he's saying from piles of fragments like those.

As someone said just the other day, he's not literally stupid, even though to all intents and purposes he sounds like it. He is, perhaps, functionally stupid.
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And no doubt the media, baiting us on with crumbs of truthiness to lead us to the arena, will note that there are a lot of moving parts here, and a lot to unpack, selecting ten or twelve sane sounding words to soothe us.
 
Trump refered to bankers he doesn't like (presumably the one's that want him to pay back his loans) as 'Shylocks' in his Iowa speech. Very on brand that when he manages to quote Shakespeare, it's the anti-semetic bit.


"Some people say 'Shylock's a bad word, but it isn't and I should know because I invented it. It's a new word, I invented it, just like I invented everything else Walter Shakespeare wrote. Some Democrats think Shakespeare was written by a side of bacon! Can you believe that? But no, I wrote Shakespeare when I was eating bacon. A big, Burley actor came up to me with tears in his eyes and said Sir, they always call me sir, Sir, that's so great you should send it to Queen Elizabeth. Who was a Big, Burley Queen I got on famously with. A golf course, a golf course, my kingdom for a course! I wrote that"


https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lt3yzfj3is2k
 
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Darat said:
No he hasn't. If you go back to just the early 2000s he could form coherent sentences - what he said was still ignorant and vile.
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You may be right. Although I said "always" I was, on reflection, only thinking about the period since he first decided to run for office. I never saw The Apprentice.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Trump refered to bankers he doesn't like (presumably the one's that want him to pay back his loans) as 'Shylocks' in his Iowa speech. Very on brand that when he manages to quote Shakespeare, it's the anti-semetic bit.


"Some people say 'Shylock's a bad word, but it isn't and I should know because I invented it. It's a new word, I invented it, just like I invented everything else Walter Shakespeare wrote. Some Democrats think Shakespeare was written by a side of bacon! Can you believe that? But no, I wrote Shakespeare when I was eating bacon. A big, Burley actor came up to me with tears in his eyes and said Sir, they always call me sir, Sir, that's so great you should send it to Queen Elizabeth. Who was a Big, Burley Queen I got on famously with. A golf course, a golf course, my kingdom for a course! I wrote that"


https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lt3yzfj3is2k
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But remember, it's the people criticising the IDF for killing children who are the anti-Semites.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Derangement

“You know, when I did the 250, there was nothing I could do. It was 250. It was 250. So I can't see -- that was my baby. The country happened to be 250 years old. But what I did do is during my first term, I got the Olympics, and I got the Great Soccer. You know that whole deal, right? I got -- we call it soccer. They call it football. I got them both. I got the Olympics. First, I got the Olympics, and I got it. I was president. And I said, you know, it's a shame. It's a shame. I got the World Cup, and I have the Olympics, and I did it. And you have no idea. President Obama didn't want to make a call to the Olympics. You know why? Because he went to Switzerland or wherever, and he said, you know, if a president goes to get the Olympics, you have to have a deal. You have to be chosen. He went there, and he came in fourth, so he hated them, I guess. And he was unwilling to make a call, and they called me up. The Democrats called me up, actually, from Los Angeles, and I said, I'll do it. I made the call, and I couldn't get the people off the phone because they were so starved for love, because nobody would call them from -- anyway, we made a deal. I got the Olympics. Then we got the World Cup with Johnny. We got the World Cup, and I got them both, and I looked at my people. I said, isn't it a shame? I got these two, but it wasn't in the next four years. It was right after that, and the one after that. And I got the Olympics, and I got the World Cup, and we also have 250, so that's a pretty wild term. But I got these two things that are incredible. Nobody else could have done it. I'm telling you, everybody wanted it. Nobody could have done it. And I said, and I won't be president, because I'll be president for four more years, but it won't be -- and then they cheated and rigged the election. They rigged -- you know, they don't even turn off the cameras when I say that now, because now they know it's true, too. But they knew it was true before. Remember, the cameras used to immediately turn off. You see all those beautiful red lights go off. Now I can say whatever I want, because then they know it's true. But they knew it was true before. It's fake news. That's why they call it. But you know what? This term is much more consequential than if I had done it the more traditional way. This was slightly harder, believe me. It's slightly more dangerous, because they're criminals on the other side that tried to put your president in jail and went after him, just like they do in third-world countries. And we all beat em together. We beat em because our level of popularity was so high.”
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"I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time..."
 
I got an email from the Social Security Administration.
Title: Social Security Applauds Passage of Legislation Providing Historic Tax Relief for Seniors
Text:
The Social Security Administration (SSA) is celebrating the passage of the One Big, Beautiful Bill, a landmark piece of legislation that delivers long-awaited tax relief to millions of older Americans.

The bill ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits, providing meaningful and immediate relief to seniors who have spent a lifetime contributing to our nation's economy.

“This is a historic step forward for America’s seniors,” said Social Security Commissioner Frank Bisignano. “For nearly 90 years, Social Security has been a cornerstone of economic security for older Americans. By significantly reducing the tax burden on benefits, this legislation reaffirms President Trump’s promise to protect Social Security and helps ensure that seniors can better enjoy the retirement they’ve earned."

The new law includes a provision that eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries, providing relief to individuals and couples. Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, ensuring that retirees can keep more of what they have earned.

Social Security remains committed to providing timely, accurate information to the public and will continue working closely with federal partners to ensure beneficiaries understand how this legislation may affect them.
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Disgusting. This country is totally ◊◊◊◊◊◊. I weep for my younger relatives.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
The thing is, he's always talked like that. It's not a sign of encroaching dementia, as he's never spoken in coherent sentences. You have to assemble whatever you think he's saying from piles of fragments like those.

As someone said just the other day, he's not literally stupid, even though to all intents and purposes he sounds like it. He is, perhaps, functionally stupid.
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It's worth noting that none of that actually addresses the question of whether Trump is sane. To that question, Trump's incoherence is auxiliary. It provides good cause to question, yes, but not conclude. Looking at his larger body of work points to his grasp of reality being very tenuous at best, either way. If one takes the view that Trump is trying to lead the US to a better future, of course, Trump's actual words and actions are utterly insane. In a different, but related direction, if one looks at his wind power and tariff statements, among many other things, what he claims is insane.

Jack by the hedge said:
You may be right. Although I said "always" I was, on reflection, only thinking about the period since he first decided to run for office. I never saw The Apprentice.
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The Apprentice would be a terrible reference anyways as a reality TV show, before getting to the various accounts that they went out of their way to make a weak and dumb conman who constantly failed look like a strong, wise, and glamorous leader who always knew what he was talking about.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Reporter: One of the words you used is widely viewed as an antisemitic phrase…

Trump: I’ve never heard it that way to me. It’s someone who is a money lender at high rates. You view it differently than me. I’ve never heard that.
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...Yet you immediately recognized what was being said?
 
As Eddie Hitler said "Every day, yakkety bloody yak, on and on and on! Day in, day out - slime in this ear, slime in that ear..."


TRUMP: And we are putting up wind. It does not work, aside from ruining our fields and valleys and killing all the birds. Being very weak and expensive, all made in China. I have never seen a wind farm in China. Why is that?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941251628386148485
 
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