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Trump's Second Term

Planigale said:
On the US consequences of Trumps actions.


www.bbc.co.uk

Trump's budget: Nearly 12 million estimated to lose health coverage, says CBO

The spending plan could also add nearly $3.3tn (£2.4tn) in debt, according to non-partisan analysis.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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None of those 12 million matter one jot to the GOP. If they didn't want to have their healthcare jeopardised then they should have been far richer.

These undeserving poor are simply a dead weight on the country and deserve a premature death due to a lack of healthcare.
 
Minoosh said:
Did Trump even make that claim? I'm not immediate finding it online. Maybe he heard is from another source and he just assumed Trump is fixing it because he's fixing everything. There's so much misinformation that maybe it just floated into his skull one day.
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Or maybe, pardon my cynisism, he worships Dump like a god and just assumes he's going to fix all of America's problems.
 
Planigale said:
On the US consequences of Trumps actions.


www.bbc.co.uk

Trump's budget: Nearly 12 million estimated to lose health coverage, says CBO

The spending plan could also add nearly $3.3tn (£2.4tn) in debt, according to non-partisan analysis.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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This may become the defining disaster of the trump presidency. Regarding the Big Beautiful Bill, the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that over ten years:
The House bill includes $3.8 trillion in tax cuts and $1.6 trillion in gross spending cuts, for a net impact of $2.2 trillion. It also includes an additional $0.2 trillion of spending outside of this mechanism, bringing the total primary deficit impact to $2.4 trillion...The latest [Senate] version falls far shorter of the House instructions. Compared to the original version, it includes new tax cuts (such as an increase in the SALT cap) and fewer spending cuts (including overall health care savings). Although we are still conducting a full analysis of the bill, it appears to cut taxes by nearly $4.5 trillion and reduce spending by about $1.4 trillion. Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget report link
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I just got notice that my VA coverage has been reduced to 80% instead of the 100% I was getting, ostensibly due to my being over the limit (in 2023 -- they wait until now to tell me!) I was going to fight it, but in a couple days it might be moot (i.e., I might not have coverage at all) so I'm going to wait a bit.
 
Mike! said:
Which is a shame, since we now live in an age where the answer to pretty much any question you could ask is available, literally at your fingertips.
It's the desire to seek out and accept those answers that is in dreadfully short supply.
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If only we had the sum total of all human knowledge on a convenient device that fits in our pockets.
 
shemp said:
www.gjsentinel.com

State Patrol no longer part of 'GJ Highway Hitters' group chat

Colorado State Patrol personnel are no longer involved with a Signal group chat used by law enforcement for drug interdiction purposes.
www.gjsentinel.com www.gjsentinel.com


This young woman was held by ICE for 23 days for no reason. At least the police have wised up and have stopped using this channel which leaks info to ICE.
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State Patrol no longer part of 'GJ Highway Hitters' Hitlers' group chat​

Fixed that for them.
 
Garrison said:
But you only have to look at what happened with the Affordable Care Act, a hostile media persuaded millions of people that something that would make their lives better had to be opposed at all costs. The only chance the Democrats have is to put up young and charismatic politicians, if they try to focus on facts and policy they will just get bogged down.
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Obama was charismatic as hell and also a policy wonk. And he still got hammered, though he had the votes. I think the country is more open to UHC than it was in 2008, on 2 conditions: Voters understand it *saves money* and they're convinced it won't help illegal immigrants.

The Dems need appealing candidates *and* appealing policies. And better messaging. And at this point, cunning may matter more than charisma.
 
After trans athletes, the biggest danger to the country is expanding Medicaid:
www.threads.com

CALL TO ACTIVISM (@calltoactivism) on Threads

Idaho Senator Mike Crapo, the GOP finance chair, while advocating for the Big ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Bill that would add TRILLIONS to the national debt, literally just said on the Senate floor that the "spending in Medicaid" puts the future of the federal debt at risk. You can't make this up.
www.threads.com www.threads.com
 
Minoosh said:
Obama was charismatic as hell and also a policy wonk. And he still got hammered, though he had the votes. I think the country is more open to UHC than it was in 2008, on 2 conditions: Voters understand it *saves money* and they're convinced it won't help illegal immigrants.
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If it saves money, the fact that undocumented migrants might benefit (after paying everyday taxes) shouldn't be much of a concern.
It shouldn't be part of the UHC discussion.
 
Paul2 said:
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. We all automatically and unconsciously will compare a claim to our background knowledge. Those claims that tend to violate what we already know will get higher scrutiny properly. If our background knowledge is corrupted, that's a whole 'nother problem. Intent to prove a claim wrong because it's not liked or doesn't fit with some idelology is another problem, too.
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My math tutoring students asked me, "Why are you always looking things up?" 'Cause - um - I like to *know* things?
Andy_Ross said:
Trump on sanctions: "One of the things I was thinking about doing, you start waving them for countries like -- if they behave themselves -- like Iran, where they can sell oil and they can do the things you want to be able to do."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939326656042221668
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It only occurs to me now ... what does Trump think a country "behaving themselves" looks like? Is it behaving yourself when you call on a neighbor to dissolve itself and integrate into yours? When you say your southern neighbor has "invaded" you when in fact people are migrating on their own. When you covet a large island and tell a European ally you're going to get it, one way or another. By the standards of regional belligerence, Trump is a bigger bully than Iran.

I don't mean to equate him and Khamenei - I think Khamenei is worse, he's funding wars and selling deadly lies like they will humiliate the Zionists, when it's quite clear Israel is here to stay and that challenging them militarily is just going to get a lot of people killed, and mostly *not* Israelis.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
If it saves money, the fact that undocumented migrants might benefit (after paying everyday taxes) shouldn't be much of a concern.
It shouldn't be part of the UHC discussion.
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No, don't set people off. There was this right-o-sphere stuff going on about 1.4M illegal immigrants on Medicaid. I could not confirm anything like that. What had happened, though, is many states, independently of the feds, have programs covering all children. They don't care about immigration status, they want healthy kids, but if the Medicaid expansion is funding any of that, it's in jeopardy.

I still don't have a clear answer whether any illegal immigrants get Medicaid. I think Mike Johnson said it, and the Internet said it was impossible. I know some of them are paying payroll taxes, possibly under someone else's ID.

In forays to conservative la-la land I've learned they disagree on a lot but let's just say there's a broad perception that illegal immigrants get everything handed to them, which is obviously hooey. I want to know the facts on that. That won't do much good but I'd also just like to know. The case I did find was not of illegal immigrants but asylum applicants who are in the country legally. I think city funds were being given to charities to find places to put people and $300 hotel rooms were mentioned. In Manhattan. I don't know why they had to be in Manhattan but that's probably just about a normal cost.
 
The question whether society should pay for basic healthcare to everyone living in it is completely separate from the question whether said care is provided economically.
When I hear stories of overpriced hotel rooms for migrants, keep in mind that it's not the migrant who is getting the money: it's dometic corruption, nothing else
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The question whether society should pay for basic healthcare to everyone living in it is completely separate from the question whether said care is provided economically.
When I hear stories of overpriced hotel rooms for migrants, keep in mind that it's not the migrant who is getting the money: it's dometic corruption, nothing else
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And overpriced compared to what ?

If accommodation is required and rental properties are in short supply then authorities have to resort to hotels. I doubt whether they're paying anything like the rack rate for the room (the $300 quoted in the press).

I know that many people who complain about the wasteful spending just don't want accommodation to be paid for, but then again they don't want asylum seekers to be allowed to work so they can pay for their own accommodation and they definitely don't want them on the street - they simply want them magically not to exist.
 
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