Trump's Second Term

[stanfr]

Without question, and in congnitive decline. It is also clear that his current advisors and cabinet are nothing more than sycophants because any person with an ounce of moral courage would have advised against almost all of the madness. Whether this Gaza thing is a troll, misdirection, or just crazy blather, none of this is the work of a person worthy of the office.

This is the same guy who, with a completely straight face, said his tarrfifs on Canada were meant to gently goad them into becoming our 51st state (sorry, Puerto RIco...) Now granted, he is incapable of laughing so it's hard to tell how 'serious' he is, but this is loony-tunes level behavior. And we've become so used to it that the news coverage was just matter-o-fact, just the usual lunacy we've come to expect. Just as he heard the Haitians were eating pets, he head Canada was ready to sign on....and in the same way when he soon suggests that maybe eugenics might be a healthy thing for the country (with RFK fully on board) the press will be saying 'some experts agree" We are living in a Trumpian Twilight Zone.

 

[kookbreaker]

He is garbage. He made no effort to understand, he just played to his racist maga weirdo base.

From way back when I remember watching Reagan's 1st press conference right after being inaugurated for his 2nd term. He called on a journalist from Korea who tried to ask his question about work on re-unification of North and South Korea.

Now Reagan didn't have an answer to this question. But that's not the point, the point was the Korean journalist had a very, very heavy accent and was very hard to understand. But Reagan, to his credit was patient and tried to parse out the question being asked, giving the man a lot of time. Eventually they had to move along because the other journalists got impatient with the time being taken.

How far things have fallen.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Without question, and in congnitive decline. It is also clear that his current advisors and cabinet are nothing more than sycophants because any person with an ounce of moral courage would have advised against almost all of the madness. Whether this Gaza thing is a troll, misdirection, or just crazy blather, none of this is the work of a person worthy of the office.

Other way round.

His advisers are out-and-out white nationalist fascists. They are the authors of all these atrocities - see above about Project 2025. And they have Trump's ear currently.

Meanwhile, Trump is a rapidly declining mentally (and he hadn't far to go, really). His core self-interested crocodilian instincts mean he is entirely susceptible to whatever they tell him. He has no clue about the goodness or badness of this. He is just an increasingly idiotic mouthpiece for their insane cruelty.

 

[LiteBright]

Trump says he's left instructions to "obliterate" Iran if they assassinate him "If they did that, they would be obliterated. I've left instructions. There would be nothing left."

I wonder if that would be before or after the massive days-long celebration of his death?

 

[Norman Alexander]

I wonder if that would be before or after the massive days-long celebration of his death?

...in the USA.

 

[Orphia Nay]

On Gaza


Reporter: You are talking tonight about the US taking over a sovereign territory. What authority would allow you to do that? Are you talking about a permanent occupation?

Trump: I do see a long term ownership position

He calls Gaza "the Riviera of the Middle East"

Reporter: Where exactly are you suggesting Gazans should go? Who do you envision living there?
Trump: I envision world people living there. The world's people. I think you'll make that into an international, unbelievable place.

Trump is stark, raving, barking, underpants-on-head mad.

 

[angrysoba]

Describing the Gaza strip as a “hell hole” Trump said the US would “take over” the area, and “we will do a good job with it too.”

“We’ll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site,” he said.

“If it’s necessary, we’ll do that, we’re going to take over that piece, we’re going to develop it, create thousands and thousands of jobs, and it’ll be something that the entire Middle East can be very proud of.”

Asked who would live there, Trump said it could become a home to “the world’s people” and predicted it might become “the Riviera of the Middle East.”

The idea that the US military is going to go in and ethnically cleanse the entire Gaza strip, defuse the unexploded ordinance (much of it Israeli, of course), and that the population is going to go somewhere....WHERE?... and with all the logistics involved with, presumably, feeding and housing the population... this is insanity from both a practical and moral point of view.

 

[Norman Alexander]

The idea that the US military is going to go in and ethnically cleanse the entire Gaza strip, defuse the unexploded ordinance (much of it Israeli, of course), and that the population is going to go somewhere....WHERE?... and with all the logistics involved with, presumably, feeding and housing the population... this is insanity from both a practical and moral point of view.

No problem for Trump. He is already successfully deporting 11 million Americans to El Salvadore for a tidy profit. So a few hundred thousand from Gaza should be easy-peasy.

 

[angrysoba]

No problem for Trump. He is already successfully deporting 11 million Americans to El Salvadore for a tidy profit. So a few hundred thousand from Gaza should be easy-peasy.

The population of Gaza is over two million.

 

[Resume]

Other way round.

His advisers are out-and-out white nationalist fascists. They are the authors of all these atrocities - see above about Project 2025. And they have Trump's ear currently.

Meanwhile, Trump is a rapidly declining mentally (and he hadn't far to go, really). His core self-interested crocodilian instincts mean he is entirely susceptible to whatever they tell him. He has no clue about the goodness or badness of this. He is just an increasingly idiotic mouthpiece for their insane cruelty.

Well sure, the 2025 weirdos have his ear, but this Gaza thing, and the Mexico and Canada things to a lesser extent have Trump written all over them, and it would be an easy thing for the weirdos to say "Yeah, go ahead Tiger!" to placate him.

 

[arthwollipot]

 

[Orphia Nay]

Trump's plan to get rid of the Education Department and leave it up to the states might get stopped by Congress.

In Trump's quest to close the Education Department, Congress and his own agenda may get in the way

President Donald Trump is preparing to gut the U.S. Education Department to the full extent of his power, directing his administration to slash spending while pressuring employees to quit.

apnews.com

If Trump gets his way, he'll reduce Big Government so much even he won't have a job, and there will be no USA.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Well sure, the 2025 weirdos have his ear, but this Gaza thing, and the Mexico and Canada things to a lesser extent have Trump written all over them, and it would be an easy thing for the weirdos to say "Yeah, go ahead Tiger!" to placate him.

The Mexico and Canada thing is tied to the "Fortress USA, strong border" idea, one of Project 2025's big bullet points.

The Gaza-as-Palm-Beach idea is tied to the whole biblical thing about Israel being the center of the Project 2025 brand of rabid Christianity - The Second Coming and stuff. And also triggered by Trump's insatiable appetite to "build stuff" at a profit for himself. It has not been mentioned throughout the whole Gaza catastrophe these past 18 months. It only came up in front of fellow outright lunatic, Netanyahu.

 

[Planigale]

FTFY

The idea that the US military is going to go in and ethnically cleanse the entire Gaza strip, defuse the unexploded ordinance (much of it Israeli, American, of course), and that the population is going to go somewhere....WHERE?... and with all the logistics involved with, presumably, feeding and housing the population... this is insanity from both a practical and moral point of view.

 

[Planigale]

The Mexico and Canada thing is tied to the "Fortress USA, strong border" idea, one of Project 2025's big bullet points.

The Gaza-as-Palm-Beach idea is tied to the whole biblical thing about Israel being the center of the Project 2025 brand of rabid Christianity - The Second Coming and stuff. And also triggered by Trump's insatiable appetite to "build stuff" at a profit for himself. It has not been mentioned throughout the whole Gaza catastrophe these past 18 months. It only came up in front of fellow outright lunatic, Netanyahu.

Certainly one of our own posters has mentioned this very thing. The idea of displacing the population of Gaza into the Sinai peninsula (Egypt) allowing Israel to resettle Gaza has certainly been mooted. I link below to a translation of an Israel document from October 2023 suggesting this.

Israeli Intelligence Ministry Policy Paper On Gaza's Civilian Population, October 2023 | PDF | Gaza Strip | Hamas

The document presents three options for Israel's policy regarding Gaza's civilian population after the recent conflict with Hamas: 1. Option A is for the population to remain under Palestinian Authority rule, but this could lead to further conflict and does not ensure long-term security or...

www.scribd.com

"Option C: The evacuation of the civilian population from Gaza to Sinai"

The novelty is that it becomes US? property (or perhaps Trumps personal fiefdom?). Previously the opinion has been that israel would annex Gaza.

The view from the right wing of Israeli politics is that after evacuating Gaza, the majority of Palestinians would then be evacuated from the West Bank to Jordan with annexation of the West Bank. This would also provide real estate development opportunities.

I think we can assume the peace process in Gaza is not going to be extended by Israel. Expect Egypt to increase its military presence on its border with Gaza to prevent the mass deportation of Palestinians by Israel.

Expect Trump to threaten to cut aid to Egypt and introduce tariffs and sanctions on Egypt unless they agree to resettle Palestinians in Gaza.

ETA
Expect that in these circumstances ICC would consider this met the definition of genocide. Trump will shortly announce sanctions and threaten members of the ICC.

 

[Resume]

The Mexico and Canada thing is tied to the "Fortress USA, strong border" idea, one of Project 2025's big bullet points.

The Gaza-as-Palm-Beach idea is tied to the whole biblical thing about Israel being the center of the Project 2025 brand of rabid Christianity - The Second Coming and stuff. And also triggered by Trump's insatiable appetite to "build stuff" at a profit for himself. It has not been mentioned throughout the whole Gaza catastrophe these past 18 months. It only came up in front of fellow outright lunatic, Netanyahu.

Nah, not buying into it. Trump caved almost immediately on the border thing, Trudeau and Sheinbaum flattering him up and telling him what he wanted to hear. The Gaza thing is purely transactional and has nothing to do with triggering Armageddon as per the fundie dreams. Trump dreams of cheap, gaudy hotels on the beach; crazy xtians dream of rapture and the annihilation of the rest. Trump is in no way a xtian of any kind, and has no interests in the nutty fantasies of fundementalists.

While I understand to goals of the 2025 lunatics, and how they'd like to steer him towards those ends, I don't think for now at least, they have enough sway to completely lead the Diapered Dictator around on a leash; he does have an agenda of retribution and remuneration, and is much too recalcitrant at this point.

 

[Tero]

rbreich
4h
4 hours ago

Trump's acting CFPB director (Scott Bessent) stopped the agency's work, which includes:-Capping credit card rates and excessive fees-Penalizing banks for ripping off consumers-Preventing politically-motivated debankingIt's a victory for Wall Street at your expense.

 

[Pacal]

Looking at Youtube comments the number of Trump supporters who are saying that Trump achieved a magnificent victory in his "Trade War bluff" with Canada and Mexico is stunning. He so far got little more than what Canada and Mexico had agreed to do before the election.

And at the same time he has seriously increased anti-American sentiment in both Canada and Mexico and has made governments in both countries extremely suspicious of him, and for what. What was already agreed too!!

The absolutely stunning display of living in a alternative reality is amazing. Trump is spinning what amounts to a back walk as victory and his fans are sticking their heads in the sand and swallowing the snake oil.

 

[angrysoba]

I really wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is nothing more than insider trading.

 

[Pacal]

rbreich
4h
4 hours ago

Trump's acting CFPB director (Scott Bessent) stopped the agency's work, which includes:-Capping credit card rates and excessive fees-Penalizing banks for ripping off consumers-Preventing politically-motivated debankingIt's a victory for Wall Street at your expense.

If this indeed is what is happening than right away Trump is increasing costs for Americans.