Trump's Second Term

Andy_Ross said:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Pete Hegseth gets an "A" PLUS, PLUS, PLUS for his defense against a disgruntled, angry, defeated, former Congressman, Thomas Massie, a TOTAL LOSER!

President DJT
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… but from people with two functioning neuron's, you both get a "F" minus, minus, minus for your lies, evasions, and a load of crimes against your country and the world at large !
 
Andy_Ross said:
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I do actually sorta see Hegseths point here. If the President ordered it, and he was just carrying out the orders. Either A) it was lawful, or B) it was the President breaking the law. I certainly don't think "I was just following orders!" is a valid defense, but if Hegseth is impeached, then Trump is de facto, also guilty, and should be the one ultimately to blame, as are all officers in the chain of command. CENTCOM on down to pilots (I don't think we should be prosecuting anyone under the rank of Major though).
 
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Its basically true that there is nothing Hegseth has done that Trump shouldn't also be impeached for. Maybe the idea is to impeach Hegseth, then if he's convicted, challenge the Reps not to convict Trump for the same reasons?
 
lobosrul5 said:
I do actually sorta see Hegseths point here. If the President ordered it, and he was just carrying out the orders. Either A) it was lawful, or B) it was the President breaking the law. I certainly don't think "I was just following orders!" is a valid defense, but if Hegseth is impeached, then Trump is de facto, also guilty, and should be the one ultimately to blame, as are all officers in the chain of command. CENTCOM on down to pilots (I don't think we should be prosecuting anyone under the rank of Major though).
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Ah, the Nuremberg defense; "I Was Only Following Orders".
 
They shou;ld impeach on the grounds of pure incompetence, but that apparenly is not an impeahable offense.

BTW, you can impeach an official for something which is not a crimnial act for which he or she could be sent to prison; "Abuse of Power: is a good example.
As the saying goes, you could impeach the President for eating a cheese sandwhich, so broad is the high crimes and misdemeanors clause.
 
dudalb said:
They shou;ld impeach on the grounds of pure incompetence, but that apparenly is not an impeahable offense.

BTW, you can impeach an official for something which is not a crimnial act for which he or she could be sent to prison; "Abuse of Power: is a good example.
As the saying goes, you could impeach the President for eating a cheese sandwhich, so broad is the high crimes and misdemeanors clause.
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I would love to see a bill that defines some high crimes and misdemeanors so in the future congress would have to explain why they aren't impeaching and convicting a president of certain acts. Just a "high crimes and misdemeanors shall include but is not limited too...." followed by a list that nobody could object too. Ordering the navy to fire on former occupants of a ship they already sank or invading foreign nation without authorization from congress for example.

All the corruption stuff too but I'd want a lawyer to write that.

ETA: Unfortunately, gross incompetence is kind of like obscenity, I know it when I see it, not sure I can define it ahead of time though.

ETAA: What the hell, throw in gross incompetence anyway.
 
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OMG! Here's a comment in the MSN forum about Headcase's speech concerning his impeachment. Maybe someone can decipher this for me. I'm fluent in stupid, but this is beyond me:

someone needed to tell him that the mind itself is entirely electrical and radio waves have the exact same electrical component that makes up the mind! their minds are actually the psychoactive radio waves in their heads! the brain sends and receives electrical signals and one of the signals it is receiving is vicious overwhelming radio mind control! it is a now ancient practice once called radionics! I WAS THE ONE TELLING THE TRUTH AND CALLED "MORE ON!!!" BY VICIOUS DISGUSTING RADIO-CONTROLLED HUMAN DRONES WITH A DISGUSTING RADIO-INDUCED PSYCHIC ILLNESS OF THE MASSES BEHIND THEM!! THEYRE ABSOLUTELY DRIVING THEIR MINDS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF TRUTH AND THE STUPID FREAKS ARE SAYING THE VICTIM IS STUPID!!!
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And here's the best response to that:

"Jesus. we're seeing the meltdown in real time here folks. lol"


ETA: The past comments from this nutjob suggest it's a rant against dems, but I'm not really sure.
 
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ahhell said:
I would love to see a bill that defines some high crimes and misdemeanors so in the future congress would have to explain why they aren't impeaching and convicting a president of certain acts. Just a "high crimes and misdemeanors shall include but is not limited too...." followed by a list that nobody could object too. Ordering the navy to fire on former occupants of a ship they already sank or invading foreign nation without authorization from congress for example.

All the corruption stuff too but I'd want a lawyer to write that.

ETA: Unfortunately, gross incompetence is kind of like obscenity, I know it when I see it, not sure I can define it ahead of time though.

ETAA: What the hell, throw in gross incompetence anyway.
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Ehh, gross incompetence seems like it would be wildly abused by Republicans, given that they wildly abuse it anyways. Inflation is SO BAD and it was and is ALL BIDEN'S FAULT! The Afghanistan withdrawal was SO BAD and it was ALL BIDEN'S FAULT! OBAMA WORE A TAN SUIT, so he's hopelessly incompetent!
 
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