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Trump's Second Term

Waltz: Where the UN lacks moral clarity, the United States of America will maintain it. Unprovoked attacks by the Iranian regime today against our regional partners reinforced precisely why such actions are necessary.

Unprovoked? You stupid ◊◊◊◊. They retaliated against neighbouring countries which have your military based there, after you started bombing the ◊◊◊◊ out of them.

Tell us more about this 'moral clarity' on which you appear to be a world ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ expert. Is it true that a big enough heap of moral clarity is sufficient to hide the Epstein files underneath?
 
MAGA Reaction to Trump attacking Iran:

Marjorie Taylor Greene: “We voted for America First and ZERO wars.”

Tucker Carlson: “absolutely disgusting and evil.”

Alex Jones: “Trump‘s HUGE gamble accelerates the world‘s trajectory towards a nuclear world war.”

Andrew Tate: “Why would going into a war with Iran benefit anybody in American at all?”
 
NBC News to Iran’s FM:
“Sir, how can attacking U.S. military bases abroad be justified?”

FM Araghchi:
Because they are attacking us. These US military installations, facilities, bases are being used to attack us. We are under attack. Why don’t you, you know, recognize this this fact? We are under an attack from you. This is obvious. This is a very simple fact. I hope that, I am sure that people would understand that we are not the one who attacked Americans. We are defending ourselves

 
Or stood by and did nothing (actually assisted*) when Iraq used chemical weapons killing upto 100.000 people. Including deliberate targeting of civilian populations as terror attacks. Not only is Iran the only country ever to have been subject to systematic use of WMD, but the US aided the perpetrators of those war crimes.



I seem to remember
"I know he's a bastard but he's out bastard"

Which was an odd take for someone so heavily tooled up with Soviet materiel
 
If Khamenei has really been offed as some reports suggest, you just know this corrupt administration is going to frame this attack as a liberation, and the maga-cultists, "centrists" and edgelords will eventually buy into it.

It's already started.
This demonizing of centrists really pisses me off. MAGA cultists are NOT centrists, they are right-wing. By definition, a centrist is someone "having moderate political views or policies." I'd rather have a moderate in Congress or the WH than a MAGA cultist any day of the week.
 
BREAKING: Newly released clip of Donald Trump partying at Mar-a-Lago, dancing with his wealthy millionaire and billionaire friends within HOURS of the United States beginning an attack on Iran, including killing young children.

Historians will look back on this and wonder how this ever came about

Very appropriate snap of Donnie at the end of the video:

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Scott Jennings
@ScottJenningsKY
🚨🚨Senior Trump Administration officials telling me that credible intelligence indicated Iran planned preemptive missile strikes against US military targets in the region, and against civilian targets as well. Failure to act would’ve resulted in mass US casualties
"Senior Trump Administration officials telling me.."

Well, there's your problem.
 
Because every single time the US 'liberated' a Middle Eastern country from dictatorships the situation in the countries got worse for the people living there, flooded more refugees into Europe and pushed more young Muslims into terrorism?
Well sure, Mrs Lincoln, we understand why you're upset. What we're asking, though is what you thought of the play itself, considered as a work of art?
 
I don't mind the priests ruling Iran getting their long-deserved comeuppance, but I don't trust US 'wars of liberation', and I don't trust Dump farther than I could throw him, so.
The priests don't rule Iran. (Not that islam has priests.) There is a democratically elected parliament (there are issues about eligibility for election), and an elected president (again issues about eligibility for election). The Supreme leader sets 'the tone' ensures conformity with islamic principles e.g. forbidding the construction of nuclear weapons, and is nominally head of the armed forces. The supreme leader is not a dictator, he will merely be replaced by another cleric. The priests are certainly influential but rather more like soviet forces would have commissars to ensure political purity.
 
Can you please explain what is wrong with supporting the destruction of a terrorist dictatorship which, if it ever had support of it people, lost it long ago?
It is no more of a terrorist state than the US, probably less so. It is not a dictatorship. It has regular elections which like US elections there are questions about the legitimacy of the results (or so Trump says, and if the POTUS can not be relied on to know that the US election system is corrupt then who can be?).
 
“Unprovoked attacks by the Iranian regime today"

Waltz: Where the UN lacks moral clarity, the United States of America will maintain it. Unprovoked attacks by the Iranian regime today against our regional partners reinforced precisely why such actions are necessary.

For certain definitions of unprovoked. Others might say an unprovoked attack on Iran was provocation.
 
JD Vance
@JDVance
As an 18-year-old kid, I supported the war. I enlisted in the Marines a month after we invaded, and left for bootcamp a few months after I graduated from high school. Even though I was just a kid, I still feel guilty for supporting the war.
Mar 19, 2023

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Vance ended up in a sinecure job that involved no combat nor ever having to leave the green zone because he was the Fortunate Son of many generations of privilege. If he were any way clever he'd have done it wearing oak leaves or eagles instead of stripes.
 
It is no more of a terrorist state than the US, probably less so. It is not a dictatorship. It has regular elections which like US elections there are questions about the legitimacy of the results (or so Trump says, and if the POTUS can not be relied on to know that the US election system is corrupt then who can be?).
Are you like being for real?
 

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