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Trump's Second Term

Random said:
He should walk onto stage, wait for the cheering to die down, wait until there is nothing but silence...

...then say, "How about those Epstein files?"
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Well, he's interviewing Governor Newsom
 
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Darat said:
Millions and millions of women have taken paracetamol whilst pregnant, if it did cause autism we would have learned that decades ago. Such large data rules out it being a cause.
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If everyone smoked lung cancer would be genetic.

I'm surprised there's a large enough sample of people who haven't taken paracetamol in a 9 month period, or who could reliably remember, to draw any conclusions at all.

ETA: And let's ignore the reason a woman might be taking paracetamol during pregnancy being a possible cause of autism!
 
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surrogate said:
Actually he has been spouting this nonsense for at least a decade.

From the Republican Candidates Debate in Simi Valley, California - 9/16/2015 -
TAPPER: Mr. Trump, as president, you would be in charge of the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health, both of which say you are wrong. How would you handle this as president?

TRUMP: Autism has become an epidemic. Twenty-five years ago, 35 years ago, you look at the statistics, not even close. It has gotten totally out of control.

I am totally in favor of vaccines. But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time. Because you take a baby in — and I've seen it — and I've seen it, and I had my children taken care of over a long period of time, over a two or three year period of time.

Same exact amount, but you take this little beautiful baby, and you pump — I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child, and we've had so many instances, people that work for me.

Just the other day, two years old, two and a half years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.

I only say it's not — I'm in favor of vaccines, do them over a longer period of time, same amount.
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So it's just one of the hundreds of pachinko balls that get daily reruns through his spongiform brain every time he wakes up.
 
Let's see what happens with Trump's medical advice in the coming months - quite possibly, it will be swiftly forgotten, as it is not what the Karens ordered: vaccines.
But maybe we will see a generation of really cranking Moms and kids damaged by an overdose of folic acid: they won't have to tell us who they voted for, we will know.
 
shemp said:
Charlie Kirk is the new Horst Wessel.
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'Scary as all hell': Onlookers horrified as Stephen Miller parrots Nazi speech

Stephen Miller delivered a venomous speech at right-wing activist Charlie Kirk's memorial service that bore a close resemblance to one given by a notorious Nazi leader at a similar event, according to reports.

The White House deputy chief of staff and top adviser to President Donald Trump called on mourners to honor the slain 31-year-old by channeling their grief into action against their political enemies, using language that mirrored a 1932 speech given by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels invoking the memory of 22-year-old paramilitary activist whose murder turned him into a fascist martyr.

“The day that Charlie died, the angels wept, but those tears had been turned into fire in our hearts, and that fire burns with a righteous fury that our enemies cannot comprehend or understand," Miller said, paying tribute to Kirk's widow Erika. "But I see Erika and her strength and her courage."

“I am reminded of a famous expression," the White House adviser said. "The storm whispers to the warrior that you cannot withstand my strength and the warrior whispers back: ‘I am the storm.’ Erika is the storm. We are the storm, and our enemies cannot comprehend our strength, our determination, our resolve, our passion.”

Numerous social media users pointed out how closely Miller's themes and word choices resembled the speech Goebbels used to elevate Horst Wessel, a young member of the Sturmabteilung – or Storm Troopers – who was killed in 1930 by members of the Communist Party of Germany. His political martyrdom inspired the Nazi Party's official anthem, which later became the country's co-official anthem.

"Stephen Miller’s speech at Charlie Kirk’s memorial was essentially plagiarized," posted podcaster Jim Stewartson, who went on to list several examples. "See if you can spot the similarities."

"'“So our dead comrade Horst Wessel wrote, and we are fulfilling his prophesy,' Goebbels said, according to Stewartson's post. "The others may lie, slander, and pour their scorn on us — their political days are numbered. They promised you, workers, citizens and creative Germans, a Reich of freedom and beauty and dignity. People, rise up, and storm, break loose!'"

"This accurate, near-verbatim translation of key passages from Joseph Goebbels' speech titled 'The Storm is Coming' (original German: 'Der Sturm bricht los'), delivered on July 9, 1932, in Berlin," agreed attorney Tracey Gallagher, commenting on Stewartson's post. "This was a campaign rally speech in the lead-up to the July 31, 1932, Reichstag elections, where the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved its peak pre-1933 electoral success."
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“The day that Charlie died, the angels wept, but those tears had been turned into fire in our hearts, and that fire burns with a righteous fury that our enemies cannot comprehend or understand,"

Stephen Miller must be a Democrat. I've been assured by posters in this forum that it's Democrats who hate people who vote differently.
 
Andy_Ross said:
In a 6-3 decision, SCOTUS allows Trump to dismiss the last Democratic member of the Federal Trade Commission, signaling a potential overturn of a 90-year-old ruling protecting independent agencies from executive control.
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The big question I have in all of these types of rulings is... How are the Trump bootlickers on the court going to reverse themselves if/when a Democrat becomes president again.

So if the zombie corpse if Biden gets a second term and tries firing all the republican hires, the supreme court will have to figure out how to justify "no you cannot just fire someone now even though we ruled a president could do just that a few years ago"
 
Segnosaur said:
The big question I have in all of these types of rulings is... How are the Trump bootlickers on the court going to reverse themselves if/when a Democrat becomes president again.

So if the zombie corpse if Biden gets a second term and tries firing all the republican hires, the supreme court will have to figure out how to justify "no you cannot just fire someone now even though we ruled a president could do just that a few years ago"
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The goal is to not have that issue come up again. I don't think the right is treating democracy as a going concern.
 
shemp said:
Charlie Kirk is the new Horst Wessel.
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Very troubling.

Just as an FYI, I recently read a long legal synopsis of a case that involved Germany and Hitler. This was an American corporation that filed a lawsuit against Germany for millions of dollars in damages the corporation sustained in a pre-WWI sabotage attack that was orchestrated by the German government. It was a long difficult case but the American company would not give up.

What caught my eye, with parallels to today, was that in the 1930s the American corporation was finally able to get some of the Germans involved in setting up the sabotage attack to admit it was orchestrated by the German government. The claim moved before an international court and the German government appeared to dispute the claim. By then the German government was under the control of Hitler. The international court ruled in favor of the American corporation and ordered Germany to make full restitution. Here's what I found unsettling.

Adolph Hitler himself responded, doing so by attacking the witnesses and the court. Hitler claimed that the German witnesses who'd testified were liars. that they had lied under oath. Hitler accused the international court of being completely biased against Germany. That the judges in the international court were dishonest and deceitful and therefore their verdict was not binding on Germany. Hitler said that Germany would not pay the damage award nor continue to take part in the hearings. And they didn't. Sound familiar? :(

(The American corporation never gave up, however, and after WWII they pressed the case with the new West German government, which eventually agreed to pay.)
 
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Segnosaur said:
The big question I have in all of these types of rulings is... How are the Trump bootlickers on the court going to reverse themselves if/when a Democrat becomes president again.

So if the zombie corpse if Biden gets a second term and tries firing all the republican hires, the supreme court will have to figure out how to justify "no you cannot just fire someone now even though we ruled a president could do just that a few years ago"
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If a Democrat becomes President again, the Ridiculous Six will just ignore any precedents that they have set. I mean, just take a look at Biden vs Nebraska compared to McMahon vs New York. In Nebraska, the SCOTUS said that Biden could not cancel student loans, even though the plain text of existing law said he could. In McMahon, SCOTUS allowed Trump to fire over a thousand Department of Education employees, even though the law said he could not. How did they justify the difference? They didn't justify it at all, it was put on the Shadow docket and Trump was given the win with no actual reasoning provided.

Conservatives have a 6-3 edge on our unelected Super Legislature. They used to at least try to provide pseudo-legal reasoning for their partisan decisions, but if they can get a case on the Shadow Docket, they don't have to do even that.
 
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