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Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

mixed feelings - it might make them use their guns less - and I can't wait for when they will inevitably wipe away the sweat in their face while the gloves are active.
Maybe in a normal world, but the people involved are already notorious for detaining the wrong people at the wrong time for the wrong reasons. Making that job easier doesn't solve the problem. I suspect that it will result in more violence and more wrongful injury and death. Right now, they use their guns too often, but still have some restraint from shooting people dead on the spot. Not so electric gloves, which can grab anyone, qualified immunity probably printed right on the backs, no consequence if they get a US citizen with a bad heart who dies on the spot. And anyway, the point is not primarily to kill, it is to hurt and instill fear and inconvenience. Electric gloves are another step toward default compliance with arbitrary power. Stay tuned for the justification for a bag over the head.

e.t.a. It hardy seems worth mentioning, but in a world where every wrong arrest, wrongful threat and wrongful death is met with the the cops lying about being run over or threatened or otherwise requiring defense, it should go without saying that it's pretty much a guarantee that most people grabbed with those gloves will be shocked on the grounds of non-compliance, even if they're unconscious in handcuffs
 
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I would like to know the ethnicity of the lone woman threatened by several armed white men. I would also commend her bravery, I don't think I could be so calm if someone was waving a gun at me.

Her name is Carolina Molina, and a search for her name produced a lot of results for a singer from Chile with the same name, so take a guess.
 
This is also why I completely disregard all of the "centrists" and "moderates" on this forum. They squawk, and piss, and moan about how terrible leftists are but do you see them in threads like this? Do you see them vehemently condemning this administration that use tactics like this? Hell no, never.
Minor correction: As a confessed moderate, I have posted to this thread some 50+ times.

See, for example, what I submitted on 1 May 2026.
 
Feels like we're getting one step closer to dystopia.

If I may repeat what I posted on the Trump thread.

Unlike the taser where the object is not to cause pain but shock the muscles into paralysis, this device in intended to subdue by causing pain. What could go wrong with issuing devices intended to cause pain without leaving marks or scars?
 
An ICE agent POINTED A GUN at a U.S. citizen, through her car window, while threatening her, in Falls Church, Virginia.

And the excuse?

They claimed she “almost ran them over.”

Except… she had a dash cam recording the entire thing.

She immediately called their ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊:

“You are so full of ◊◊◊◊. I didn’t almost run anyone over.”

The agent tells her, “You aren’t funny.”

She responds, “You aren’t funny.”

Then he threatens her… “Keep it up, I will arrest you.” While he has his gun aimed inches away from her.

She says, “I’m a legal citizen, for what?”

And they keep threatening her with arrest.

Then, the agent repeats the accusation that she tried to run them over.

So, she tells him, “Run you over when? I have dash cam recording. That’s a lie.”

And suddenly… they WALK AWAY

Video in link
The people they are hiring are the ones who couldn't make it into the real police department. They're the ones who sublimate that desire for power by authority by becoming dictatorial security guards. This will only continue to get worse; nothing appears to be happening to raise the bar for becoming an ICE agent. Less, if anything.
Watching the video, I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to see the cowards were masked. The guy brandishing (for no reason) must have the smallest dick in the world.
 
Even the company iteself says it relies on pure "pain compliance." I see it as just another tool to be abused and will also do nothing to stop innocent people from being shot.
In many countries use of an instrument designed to inflict pain would be called torture. No doubt it will help people comply with making confessions, providing the police with information, or just make them realise the consequences of not complying with police orders.
 
DHS infiltrating protestor groups. Not surprising really. I suspect they stood out like a sore thumb; I don't think they're smart enough to be convincing in an undercover role.

A DHS report from February said the agency was looking into people who were “providing material support to violent opportunists and agitators”. The records suggest agents launched elaborate spying efforts targeting activists, protesters and mainstream progressive organizations opposing the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

“I was shocked at the scope and the apparent lack of investigative discipline involved, but not totally surprised,” said Kevin Riach, an attorney for one of the indicted protesters, who filed the tranche of records in federal court.


 
DHS infiltrating protestor groups. Not surprising really. I suspect they stood out like a sore thumb; I don't think they're smart enough to be convincing in an undercover role.

A DHS report from February said the agency was looking into people who were “providing material support to violent opportunists and agitators”. The records suggest agents launched elaborate spying efforts targeting activists, protesters and mainstream progressive organizations opposing the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

“I was shocked at the scope and the apparent lack of investigative discipline involved, but not totally surprised,” said Kevin Riach, an attorney for one of the indicted protesters, who filed the tranche of records in federal court.


General rule of thumb if you're looking for an infiltrator, he'll be the one proposing the most extremist courses of action.
 
Right, his fiancee's being detained by ICE is something that happened to *him*. Not "us". Not "her". Him.

"Venezuelan woman detained by ICE. Rich white guy most affected."
Women are the property of men, dontchaknow (just writing that sarcastically made me feel dirty). Saying the quiet part out loud.
 
Electric Shock Gloves are being used in Omaha schools.

The GLOVE, or Generated Low-Output Voltage Emitter, is already in use in some public schools. Twenty-nine of 34 school police officers in Omaha, Nebraska have trained to use the GLOVE, and twice in the past year, officers have used the devices to shock students.

 

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