Trumps Presidency through the eyes of a right wing patriot

Cainkane1

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Trump has created jobs for all Americans. Minorities never had it so good. He has kept or tried to bring back jobs from countries like Mexico and China. He has put us to work.

Comparing Trump with Obama who once gave Iran one of our enemies over a billion dollars Trump puts the interests of America first.

The people who hate Trump are the same people we see burning and looting our cities and assaulting our citizens.

I'm of the opinion that the Clintons are responsible for several deaths. Strange unsolved murders and deaths of their enemies.

At least when you go against Trump you get to stay alive.

Trump 2020.
 
That guy looks like he's on dope. Basically Americans are free. Freedom to say anything we want, freedom of or from religion. Freedom to choose where to live and basic freedoms that other countries don't have. No society is perfect.

America is about as close to an ideal society as a country can get and still have a large diverse population. Every society has its detractors.

Please name a better country of size that bets America? You can name small nations that take a bit better core of their citizens but for a large heavily populated diverse society America does pretty good.
 
Ya know who's not actually a Patriot? Trump. He hates about half of the country's citizens, for a starter. He's only in favor of himself.
Does he hate them or do they hate him? If he does hate them would it not be a reaction to people who consider him the enemy for no good reason. It isn't Trump supporters who are burning and looting our cities and businesses and quite frankly I personally hate the rioter's guts. Maybe Trump does too. I don't blame him.

The agenda of the most vocal of Trumps detractors seem to be socialists or anarchists so if that's who hates Trump them more power to him.

If Trump haters were decent nice, law-abiding people it would be different.

Trump supporters are not Americas problem.
 
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Trump has created jobs for all Americans.

Here's a fun game you can play. Here's a graph of the unemployment rate, as expressed as a percentage, from the mid 1940s to the present day:

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Why not see if you can pinpoint where Trump took office?

Here's another one, spoilered for size, this time specifically of black unemployment in the US over the last 20 years:

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Same challenge.
 
Trump has created jobs for all Americans. Minorities never had it so good. He has kept or tried to bring back jobs from countries like Mexico and China. He has put us to work.
Given that the positive economic trends began under Obama, does he get any credit?

Even if not (which would be absurd), Trump is ravaging the economy with his spectacular bungling of the pandemic. So good luck with this argument.

Comparing Trump with Obama who once gave Iran one of our enemies over a billion dollars Trump puts the interests of America first.
Are you aware that the money "given" to Iran was actually Iran's money being returned to them?

The people who hate Trump are the same people we see burning and looting our cities and assaulting our citizens.
Guffaw.

I'm of the opinion that the Clintons are responsible for several deaths. Strange unsolved murders and deaths of their enemies.
(1) Guffaw and (2) how very random.

At least when you go against Trump you get to stay alive.
Perversely hilarious.

Trump 2020.
I'm very much enjoying that your fuhrer is trailing in all the states that matter, by ever expanding margins, as the country watches his excellent imitation of Baghdad Bob.
 
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Trump has created jobs for all Americans. Minorities never had it so good. He has kept or tried to bring back jobs from countries like Mexico and China. He has put us to work.

Comparing Trump with Obama who once gave Iran one of our enemies over a billion dollars Trump puts the interests of America first.

The people who hate Trump are the same people we see burning and looting our cities and assaulting our citizens.

I'm of the opinion that the Clintons are responsible for several deaths. Strange unsolved murders and deaths of their enemies.

At least when you go against Trump you get to stay alive.

Trump 2020.
If you take all these statements as factually correct then I get why you support him. But on what basis do you believe the statements are factual?
 
Trump supporters are not Americas problem.


Actually, quite a number of them are.

A number of sources have reported that there have been more right-wing acts of violence than of left-wing violence in the US in recent decades. Sorry, I don't have time at the moment to look up and quote some of those sources, or to examine the numbers closely to see if Trump supporters really have engaged in more criminal acts (such as mass shootings, driving cars into people, destroying property of people and groups they oppose, making false 911 calls, brandishing guns to threaten people they don't like, etc.) than Trump opponents. But the number of incidents involving Trump supporters is not insignificant. It seems clear that many neo-Nazis and white supremacists are Trump supporters, and it seems clear that these are people who are engaging in harmful activities.

So some Trump opponents are a problem and some Trump supporters are a problem; some Trump supporters are good people, and some Trump opponents are good people. It's no more reasonable for Trump supporters to look only at the bad things some Trump opponents do while ignoring the bad things some Trump supporters do than it would be for Trump opponents to look only at the bad things some Trump supporters do while ignoring the bad things some Trump opponents do.

Regardless of whether we're on the left or on the right, whether we support or oppose Trump, whether we're rooting for Republicans or rooting for Democrats (or rooting against both parties), we need to avoid seeing our side as all good and their side as all bad. That's a large part of the problem our nation is facing right now: people demonizing their opponents (as libtards or deplorables, DemocRATs or Repugnicans, or the many other insults people have been using to make it easier to ignore the humanity of the people they disagree with).

The way to resolve problems well is for people to talk to each other, listen to each other, get to understand each other better, and eventually over time be able to find and act on the many areas where we will find we actually are in more agreement than we realized.
 
Trump has created jobs for all Americans.

Less than any recent President. 20 million unemployed.

Minorities never had it so good.

Yeah if you ignore him calling for violence against peaceful protesters and his support of white power groups.

He has kept or tried to bring back jobs from countries like Mexico and China.

All the while getting his MAGA hats from China.

Comparing Trump with Obama who once gave Iran one of our enemies over a billion dollars Trump puts the interests of America first.

Why repeat lies?

The people who hate Trump are the same people we see burning and looting our cities and assaulting our citizens.

Care to support that libel?

I'm of the opinion that the Clintons are responsible for several deaths. Strange unsolved murders and deaths of their enemies.

Now you're off the deep end. Name five and explain your reasoning.

You won't.
 
I think the opening post is an accurate summation of what the world looks like to a hard-core Trump supporter.

I think the only things missing were
- an assertion that protestors=rioters,
- the claim that being against spending $20billion on a wall means that you want completely open borders,
- the contention that people who say that something should be done to reduce discrimination against people of color are the real racists.
- a declaration that every president before Donald Trump has been treated with a respectful reverence by (a) the opposing party in congress, (b) a fawning and absurdly-uncritical press, (c) every US intelligence agency, and (d) every former cabinet member and former executive-branch agency director.
- the belief that there were many, many, many more people at President Trump’s inauguration than there were at any US presidential inauguration in the history.
 
Keep tellin' it, Brother CainKane1!

Here summore: President Mister Trump is a slender, athalettick, young-looking fellah, weighs about 145, could of been a hockey star if he hadn't gone into pat'rotic Public Services!

Those fake news lyin' damn ole crats shop all his photos n movies n videos n etc. with DISGUSTING FAT and HOAX HAIR to make him look bad. And try to agent orange him too.

So you just give us yr free american opinion, CaneKane1, cuz it's worth all the paper it's wrote on.
 
I'm curious what Trump-enacted policies specifically are supposed to have brought on this unprecedented level of prosperity and freedom.
 
Keep tellin' it, Brother CainKane1!

Here summore: President Mister Trump is a slender, athalettick, young-looking fellah, weighs about 145, could of been a hockey star if he hadn't gone into pat'rotic Public Services!
Those fake news lyin' damn ole crats shop all his photos n movies n videos n etc. with DISGUSTING FAT and HOAX HAIR to make him look bad. And try to agent orange him too.

So you just give us yr free american opinion, CaneKane1, cuz it's worth all the paper it's wrote on.

No, he would have been a PGA star! The greatest! Would've won 7 or 8 majors every year! Would've won a thousand tournaments! Would've had a million holes-in-one! Would've put Palmer, Nicklaus and Woods to shame! They would've renamed The Masters to "The Trumpsters"!
 
Cain, it is nice that you are trying to stave off doom of USA, but it is inevitable.
 
What the OP is basically saying is that a Trump supporter is completely divorced from reality.

We already knew that.
 

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