His brother died young of alcoholism. I believe he probably hasn't had a drink since seeing the toll alcoholism took on his brother.
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Trump's "Good health" medical report
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His brother died young of alcoholism. I believe he probably hasn't had a drink since seeing the toll alcoholism took on his brother.
TragicMonkey
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Yes, I know. "Internal Medicine" is the American version of "General Medicine" in the UK and elsewhere.
ddt
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It has been shortly commented on before (I googled back into the earlier general Trump thread).
There was a recent take-down by a Canadian doctor on the Huffington Post.
With regards to Harold Bornstein MD being Trump's GP despite being an internal medicine specialist, she says this is possible: starting internists would commonly have a GP practice and keep their old GP clients while expanding their internal medicine practice.
Harold Bornstein "inherited" Trump as client from his father Jacob Bornstein when he died in 2010. But in 2015, Jacob Bornstein's name is still on the letterhead.
Yes, IMHO, it's a fake. The letter is full of trumpisms like "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" that no MD would ever write. Or did doctor Bornstein also measure the PSA of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?
It has been shortly commented on before (I googled back into the earlier general Trump thread).
There was a recent take-down by a Canadian doctor on the Huffington Post.
With regards to Harold Bornstein MD being Trump's GP despite being an internal medicine specialist, she says this is possible: starting internists would commonly have a GP practice and keep their old GP clients while expanding their internal medicine practice.
Harold Bornstein "inherited" Trump as client from his father Jacob Bornstein when he died in 2010. But in 2015, Jacob Bornstein's name is still on the letterhead.
Yes, IMHO, it's a fake. The letter is full of trumpisms like "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" that no MD would ever write. Or did doctor Bornstein also measure the PSA of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?
The only reason to brag about a PSA result (very low) to assure people your libido is ok. Prostate cancer is one of the most treatable forms of cancer but a common side effect of the treatment is erectile dysfunction.
ddt
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Also for people with a below-average blood pressure, as the letter is claiming Trump has?
And the statins too? Never heard of that.
It's low from what I'd expect someone with the diet (high sodium intake from fast food) Donald has but absent other information not a huge concern.
Statins are for cholesterol. Without knowing the dose, we have no idea how elevated his cholesterol levels are or if it's precautionary due to family history.
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ddt
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As well as incontinence, because the nerves run very close to where the surgeon has to cut. An uncle of mine had that. But most men die with prostate cancer in their bodies and most with a benign form that never spreads. The most common treatment for prostate cancer is "wait and see".
And Trumps purported PSA is so outrageously low (0.15 where up to 4.0 would be considered safe) that you think he never does it: semen elevates the PSA. I think I have reason to question is libido.
Foolmewunz
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Statins and the 81 mg of aspirin are GP starting points for lots of old geezers. If you show any "bad" cholesterol at all, the put you on Crestor. I'm still on it. The "heart aspirin" is also a pretty low minimum. Trump doesn't smoke but reportedly has a crap diet. Both make sense and are the kind of things you'd get from your GP without seeing a specialist. I was prescribed both when I went for my first tests for high blood pressure.... by the GP. He sent me to a cardio specialist who gave me all sorts of regular pills, but when he got to the Crestor and aspirin, said.... "couldn't hurt".
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Norman Alexander
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From the HuffPo link:
Apart from the ethical questions raised, my concerns are: Why has the Trump team tried to brazenly get away with such an obvious fraud? If they didn't create the document themselves, why are they endorsing someone else's piffle? Did they think somebody would be fooled by it anyway, regardless of its source and veracity? Is this one of the last desperate clutches at the final remaining wisps if straw? Or have they given up even trying to give a hoot...
So it seems rather clear that this is a very badly concocted letter, and quite possibly not from the doctor named in it.
Apart from the ethical questions raised, my concerns are: Why has the Trump team tried to brazenly get away with such an obvious fraud? If they didn't create the document themselves, why are they endorsing someone else's piffle? Did they think somebody would be fooled by it anyway, regardless of its source and veracity? Is this one of the last desperate clutches at the final remaining wisps if straw? Or have they given up even trying to give a hoot...
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ddt
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Thank you. Maybe it's difference that GPs over here are less generous with "just in case" pills (or I'm misinformed about that too).
TragicMonkey
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I'd like to see a letter from a shrink claiming Trump is free of mental craziness.
slyjoe
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DONALD TRUMP TESTS POSITIVE FOR EVERYTHING, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN DOCTOR
Newsweek opinion on the matter; signature fishy too.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836
Just a snippet:
"Most amusing, it says that his medical examination of Trump has “only positive results.” In medical terms, if the test is positive, it confirms the existence of disease. "
Newsweek opinion on the matter; signature fishy too.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836
Just a snippet:
"Most amusing, it says that his medical examination of Trump has “only positive results.” In medical terms, if the test is positive, it confirms the existence of disease. "
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Cain
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Forget the preceding 44 presidents. Can anyone seriously claim Trump, in his late sixties*, will enter office healthier than the last two presidents?
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slyjoe
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Well, age isn't directly related to an individual's health. Trump could be healthier than Obama or Bush.
At least that's what they keep telling me.
At least that's what they keep telling me.
Cain
Straussian
That is absolutely true. Maybe Bush and Obama suffer from something we don't know about, but then, Trump's doctor wouldn't know about it either, which, as I said, makes it difficult to take the lofty claims seriously.
acbytesla
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I don't think Trump is healthier than any of the last 7 or 8 Presidents when they took office. Ronald Reagan and Trump are maybe neck and neck. And Obama could run him into the ground and that is after spending 8 years as President. You'd have to back to LBJ to name one that was in worse shape when he took office.
What is it about Trump that makes everything and everyone exaggerate?
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I think Trump could maybe have taken on FDR in a footrace.
Segnosaur
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It was actually written by Trump publicist John Miller.
I have to wonder though...if its fake (and it certainly does have that appearance) why has the real doctor Bornstien come out and said "that wasn't me"?