Stacyhs
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Agreed, as shown in the two impeachment trials.
Cont: Trump's Coup - Part 3
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Agreed, as shown in the two impeachment trials.
Segnosaur
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From the looks of it, the "election reforms" he is referring to changes to the Electoral Reform Act. (Basically tightening up the rules for handling certification of electoral votes in congress.)
That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is only one tiny, miniscule part of the problem. The republicans can still do everything they can to suppress votes on election day, which would make certification irrelevant.
See: Politico
It's all a farce as long as gerrymandering and the EC are still on the table.
Hell take even the EC table and I'm not certain Republicans could win on a National Level even if we just let them keep cheating.
There's 10 million more registered Democrats than Republicans.
They have won the popular vote in the Presidential election in... well either 1989 or 2004 depending on whether or not you want to count Bush's second term which I've always argued you don't have to.
In nearly every single major "Issue" with capital I that's one of those big social political divides in this more people, ranging from a sliver to a lot, support the Democratic side of the argument.
The United States Democratic Party is the third largest Political Party in the world and represents a greater percentage of people in its country than any other political party currently existences.
This is insane. They should be the Shasta to the Democratic Coke, not the Pepsi.
ETA: Never mind. Pepsi only has a 25% market share. They are definitely the Pepsi.
Hell take even the EC table and I'm not certain Republicans could win on a National Level even if we just let them keep cheating.
There's 10 million more registered Democrats than Republicans.
They have won the popular vote in the Presidential election in... well either 1989 or 2004 depending on whether or not you want to count Bush's second term which I've always argued you don't have to.
In nearly every single major "Issue" with capital I that's one of those big social political divides in this more people, ranging from a sliver to a lot, support the Democratic side of the argument.
The United States Democratic Party is the third largest Political Party in the world and represents a greater percentage of people in its country than any other political party currently existences.
This is insane. They should be the Shasta to the Democratic Coke, not the Pepsi.
ETA: Never mind. Pepsi only has a 25% market share. They are definitely the Pepsi.
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Crazy Chainsaw
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Sadly I have to agree as well, the Two Party system is dead.
Craig4
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Except it's all we have just now.
Hey, Mitt. How about election matters be NON partisan? As they are in numerous other countries.
The two party system is what looks increasingly likely to be the cause of the impending one party system.
Venom
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Who do think is trustworthy enough to maintain "Republican principles" while rightfully pursuing answers to the Capitol riot? It may serve a political purpose, but that doesn't mean it's partisan. But you seem to want it to be that way at every turn when it comes to holding people who happen to have an (R) next to their name responsible. It may play a part in sinking Trump in whatever respect, it may not. And if it does? Who gives a **** why are you trying to protect Trump no matter what?
Huh? "Trying to protect Trump"?? Where did you come up with that?
I don't want to see him run in 2024.
"How dare you suggest I'm protecting Trump. I'm just on his side in every argument and parrot his talking points 100%."
Again, dude, we've seen this act and you're not even a good version of it.
Here I'll prove it.
*Reads from script* "Now the Totally not a Trumper Trumper will get indignant."
*Looks at you* And... action!
If I were a Trump supporter I would probably also be in support of his claims of wide-scale election fraud. Perhaps even his crazy claims of the FBI being behind the insurrection, as well. And, I'd also be supporting him for 2024. I support none of these things.
Saying that the committee is highly partisan and politically motivated is just stating obvious fact. As I have said before, Dems would be stupid not to seize this political opportunity. I expect them to milk it for all it's worth. I believe it will be one of the contributors to Trump becoming non-viable for 2024.
Now, if Dems manage to screw the pooch and blow this opportunity, they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Saying that the committee is highly partisan and politically motivated is just stating obvious fact. As I have said before, Dems would be stupid not to seize this political opportunity. I expect them to milk it for all it's worth. I believe it will be one of the contributors to Trump becoming non-viable for 2024.
Now, if Dems manage to screw the pooch and blow this opportunity, they have nobody to blame but themselves.
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No, it is not obvious unless you believe the attempted coup and especially Dump's part in it were nothing that needs addressing except as a political talking point.
Do you see the problem with this attitude here?
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johnny karate
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Yes, if you were openly a Trump supporter you would say those things.
A Trump supporter trying to give themselves a veneer of credibility would avoid saying them directly, and instead merely imply them under the guise of "just asking questions" or some such lame rhetorical tactic.
To wit, such a person would obviously avoid explicitly endorsing Trump's "crazy claims of the FBI being behind the insurrection".
They would instead try to sneak it in the back door by saying something like this:
Hope that clears it up for you.
Saying that the January 6th committee is "highly partisan and politically motivated" is
A) absolutely a Trumpist talking point
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B) denies the fact that the Democrats didn't make it partisan, Republicans did when they refused to take part.
Venom
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Politically motivated, sure. Partisan? Why even say it like that? Whether it's a Democrat, Republican, Independent, NO elected leader should have conducted himself the way he did. If he sinks from it, he sinks from it.
No. Like the two impeachments that got nowhere, we have obsequious Republicans terrified of the radical MAGA base to thank for not holding Trump accountable. Stop omitting the other players in the arena when you blame someone for failing to do the right thing.
Venom
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Arsonist *sets fire to tree*
Rescuer *clumsily slips and falls trying to save treehouse, injuring himself*
Warp12: "guess you only have yourself to blame buddy"
Rescuer *clumsily slips and falls trying to save treehouse, injuring himself*
Warp12: "guess you only have yourself to blame buddy"
Skeptic Ginger
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This ^
Re B, the GOP got miffed when Pelosi wouldn't allow the members of the House who were suspected of being directly involved on the committee.
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Did you not read earlier, when I stated that the Republicans played the situation stupidly? I guess not. That doesn't change the factual eventual outcome of a highly partisan committee.
As I have also mentioned, Dems will squeal like a gerbil stuck in Richard Gere's ass in order to avoid admitting this.
Clearly demonstrated by the comments.
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johnny karate
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That's because there's nothing to admit.
The Democrats did everything they could to make the January 6th committee non-partisan. Republicans refused to participate.
Incessantly repeating Fox News taking points doesn't not change that reality.
Well, at least we are in agreement. It is a highly partisan committee.
Blame it on whoever you want. It doesn't matter.
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Actually, facts do matter. You should try using them now and again, instead of just repeating right wing propaganda.
Democrats have wanted a fair and impartial investigation from the beginning. That's why they initially proposed an independent committee, when they were under no obligation to do so.
Republicans, naturally, blocked this effort. And now they caterwaul about the committee being "politically motivated" when in fact, it's their obstructionism that made it political.
Democrats are acting good faith. Republicans - and the brain-dead cultists who parrot their lies on message boards - are not.