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Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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Stacyhs said:
The sad part of this is that it's very difficult to separate serious posts from intentionally ridiculous posts now. Poe's law and all. I think you're taking the mickey, but then again, a post like this could well be serious from some members here.
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I hear that. As I've posted before, my contempt for Trump goes back to the 80's, when he was sleazing around my beloved Atlantic City, NJ. More than any other public figure, I have wished him....let's say dire misfortune, in case the Secret Service has tabs on the forum.

But as much as I have appreciated President Biden's dedicated public service, I would have much preferred a table-flipper at this point. Voting against Captain Birtherism should not mean practically being required to vote for Seargeant Status Quo.
 
Belz... said:
That's pretty dangerous though. If you skip your lesser-evil choice for the GTFO one and you split the vote, you're not going to get a majority.
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Exactly. Forcing the vote for a candidate you don't want, because you detest the other, is the reason the last two Presidents got in office. This should stop.
 
Thermal said:
Exactly. Forcing the vote for a candidate you don't want, because you detest the other, is the reason the last two Presidents got in office. This should stop.
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I'm not sure you understood my point. Your solution would most likely end up splitting the vote and end up giving us even worse presidents.
 
Belz... said:
I'm not sure you understood my point. Your solution would most likely end up splitting the vote and end up giving us even worse presidents.
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I understand completely, which is why we we desperately need another viable option, even if a quite radical one. The dilemma you pose is not sustainable, yet we are solidly there.
 
I have to wonder if the rapid takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban will embolden the rednecks/redhats in the U.S. to try a similar thing here.
 
alfaniner said:
I have to wonder if the rapid takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban will embolden the rednecks/redhats in the U.S. to try a similar thing here.
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I don't know but I do know there's been a lot of similar pre-Jan 6 type chatter on the right wing forums, mostly by white supremacists, as issued by a DHS bulletin in June.

A DHS National Terrorism Alert System (NTAS) Bulletin obtained by ABC News claimed that "in recent weeks, domestic violent extremists (DVEs) motivated by various violent ideologies have continued to advocate violence and plan attacks.

It continued: "As of 16 June, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist-white supremacists (RMVE-WSs) were sharing downloadable links to a publication discussing targeting mass gatherings, critical infrastructure and law enforcement officers.
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https://www.salon.com/2021/07/01/dh...led-by-trumps-august-reinstatement-delusions/
 
According to Stephanie Grisham who was Melania's Chief of Staff, the former FL would not condemn the Jan. 6 riot violence as it was happening.

At 1:25 p.m. on Jan. 6, soon after rioters had broken through barricades outside of the Capitol, MELANIA TRUMP received a text message from her then-chief of staff, STEPHANIE GRISHAM.

“Do you want to tweet that peaceful protests are the right of every American, but there is no place for lawlessness and violence?” Grisham asked the first lady.

A minute later, Melania replied with a one-word answer: “No.” At that moment, she was at the White House preparing for a photo shoot of a rug she had selected, according to exclusive excerpts of Grisham’s forthcoming book, “I’ll Take Your Questions Now: What I Saw in The Trump White House,” obtained by POLITICO.

Grisham, a years-long Trump loyalist who resigned within hours of that text exchange, also writes that she asked Melania a couple times whether she should reach out to JILL BIDEN during the transition to set up the traditional inauguration tea. But instead of setting up the meeting, Melania told her that they should “see what the West Wing does.” The reason, according to Grisham: Melania, like her husband, believed the election was illegitimate.
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“Stephanie has secrets about Trump that even the first lady doesn’t know,” the source said. “Secrets that he doesn’t want her to know. They will be in this book.”

Since news of the book broke late last week, numerous Trump-world figures have contacted Grisham to see how they are depicted in the book or to offer private messages of support, according to the source. Grisham, who is very familiar with how the Trumps operate, is also bracing for a potential smear campaign and legal fight if anyone sues to try to prevent publication. She knows, the source said, that there’s a hunt on to try to get a copy of the book to the Trumps; she’s received calls from people she barely knows asking for an early copy.
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I have to take anything Gresham says with a ton of salt..(standard SOP for me when a author has a "tell all" book coming out) but it will be interesting to see what comes out.
I get the feeling Gresham and Donnie don't like each other anymore.
 
dudalb said:
I have to take anything Gresham says with a ton of salt..(standard SOP for me when a author has a "tell all" book coming out) but it will be interesting to see what comes out.
I get the feeling Gresham and Donnie don't like each other anymore.
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Melania's rebuttal to this does not deny what Grisham wrote. That in itself is telling.

The intent behind this book is obvious. It is an attempt to redeem herself after a poor performance as press secretary, failed personal relationships, and unprofessional behavior in the White House. Through mistruth and betrayal, she seeks to gain relevance and money at the expense of Mrs. Trump.”
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Grisham, who is very familiar with how the Trumps operate, is also bracing for a potential smear campaign....


The intent behind this book is obvious. It is an attempt to redeem herself after a poor performance as press secretary, failed personal relationships, and unprofessional behavior in the White House.

That didn't take long. :-)
 
dudalb said:
I have to take anything Grisham says with a ton of salt..(standard SOP for me when a author has a "tell all" book coming out) but it will be interesting to see what comes out.
I get the feeling Gresham and Donnie don't like each other anymore.
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In this case, and in many similar ones, the events the author is reporting would have been witnessed by others. It doesn't just come down to "he said, she said." And it's consistent with what others have said and even recorded, as in the case of another assistant also named Stephanie.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...as-migrant-children-stephanie-winston-wolkoff
https://abc30.com/melania-trump-tapes-recording-christmas-news/6716225/

All of the public evidence is that Melania is a vile, manipulative gold-digger who thinks like her hubby. She gave it up when she arrived at a migrant children's shelter wearing her famous jacket, "I really don't care, do u?"
https://www.instyle.com/news/melania-trump-i-really-dont-care-zara-trench
 
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Bob001 said:
In this case, and in many similar ones, the events the author is reporting would have been witnessed by others. It doesn't just come down to "he said, she said." And it's consistent with what others have said and even recorded, as in the case of another assistant also named Stephanie.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...as-migrant-children-stephanie-winston-wolkoff
https://abc30.com/melania-trump-tapes-recording-christmas-news/6716225/

All of the public evidence is that Melania is a vile, manipulative gold-digger who thinks like her hubby. She gave it up when she arrived at a migrant children's shelter wearing her famous jacket, "I really don't care, do u?"
https://www.instyle.com/news/melania-trump-i-really-dont-care-zara-trench
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:thumbsup: By all accounts, Melania is also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, either.
 
Resume said:
Marrying a known dirtbag for $$$$ kinda makes you a dirtbag.
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But a very rich dirtbag. In her limited defense, she married him when he was a celebrity developer and NY playboy. She never intended to become a public figure, and by some accounts wasn't happy about it.
 
jadebox said:
Grisham, who is very familiar with how the Trumps operate, is also bracing for a potential smear campaign....


The intent behind this book is obvious. It is an attempt to redeem herself after a poor performance as press secretary, failed personal relationships, and unprofessional behavior in the White House.

That didn't take long. :-)
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I actually can't disagree with much of that concerning Graham, but still am interested in what she has to say about Donnie.
 
Bob001 said:
But a very rich dirtbag. In her limited defense, she married him when he was a celebrity developer and NY playboy. She never intended to become a public figure, and by some accounts wasn't happy about it.
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That does not change the fact she's a none too bright gold digger. And I'd bet their pre-nup is a doozy. After all, Donnie learned from his first two divorces.
 
Stacyhs said:
That does not change the fact she's a none too bright gold digger. And I'd bet their pre-nup is a doozy. After all, Donnie learned from his first two divorces.
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I was gonna type he hadn't learned from his bankruptcies, but those were just lessons in grift.
 
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