Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

[Stacyhs]

I agree with Cheney's position. I also read that Pelosi may offer positions to other Republicans. I hope she does. An investigation needs to happen.

I hope she does, too. Regardless, McCarthy and his ilk will scream partisanship all the while having vote against an independent, bi-partisan investigation.

 

[mgidm86]

This is important. The attack on the Capitol is part of the coup, it can't be pulled out and examined in isolation and determined not to be a coup because it doesn't meet all the criteria. It's a very dramatic and public and noticeable part---*of* the coup.

That is a great point! Why have I not seen it put this way before?

Anyone paying attention could see that Trump was attempting to steal a legitimate election for many weeks, including everyone at the Capitol that day.

They knew exactly what they were doing and why.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

That is a great point! Why have I not seen it put this way before?

Anyone paying attention could see that Trump was attempting to steal a legitimate election for many weeks, including everyone at the Capitol that day.

They knew exactly what they were doing and why.

And it wasn't running amok chasing cars.

Of course they believed as did Dump who sent them on their mission: stop the final certification of the election results.

Dump in his fantasy world, the one in his mind that he lives in, ignorantly believed that somehow stopping a formality in the election process could actually stop the changeover from one POTUS to the next. He ignorantly believed state legislators could just stop their state's vote outcomes and declare Dump the winner.

And that was the mission he sent his army of misfits on.

 

[Stacyhs]

And it wasn't running amok chasing cars.

Of course they believed as did Dump who sent them on their mission: stop the final certification of the election results.

Dump in his fantasy world, the one in his mind that he lives in, ignorantly believed that somehow stopping a formality in the election process could actually stop the changeover from one POTUS to the next. He ignorantly believed state legislators could just stop their state's vote outcomes and declare Dump the winner.

And that was the mission he sent his army of misfits on.

Yep. And this is why they are dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[Stacyhs]

I put this in the "Trump has a mental illness" thread, too, because I couldn't decide where it belong.

Trump is blaming his election loss on dead people and paid Indians voting and on bad judges (86 of them), including the SC judges he nominated.

 

[Armitage72]

Dump in his fantasy world, the one in his mind that he lives in, ignorantly believed that somehow stopping a formality in the election process could actually stop the changeover from one POTUS to the next. He ignorantly believed state legislators could just stop their state's vote outcomes and declare Dump the winner.

There was an episode of Underdog in which the villain arbitrarily declared that there would be an election appointing him dictator, with everyone voting Yes or No. He physically prevented everyone except himself and his henchman from voting, and the entire population passively said "We don't have a choice. He was elected dictator. We have to do what he says."
Trump apparently lives in that world.

 

[JoeMorgue]

During the Jabba thread I often had to stop Jabba and remind him that even if he managed to win the argument on a technicality, he wasn't immortal and was still going to die.

In other words Trump has a "Patented Effective Election" method.

 

[turingtest]

How to destroy democracy in two easy steps- simply refuse to accept its underlying principle that someone's gotta lose, and sometimes that's gonna be your side. Then you jettison all of your party's other principles and make that refusal to accept reality the core policy around which you build all the party's activity.

 

[Ladewig]

I love how if... last summer I had suggested the possibility that pro-Trump rioters were going to storm the Capital, lead to the deaths of 4 people, openly calling for the executions of Pelosi and Pence, be photographed stealing podiums and putting their feet on desks that the exact same people downplaying it now would have been screeching about what a "hyperbolic strawman" the mere suggestion was.

Or if you went back and said, “some supporters in one party will be so upset with the election results that they will violently storm the capital to prevent the vote from being certified by Congress”. Then how many GOPers would say “typical irrational liberals”

 

[JoeMorgue]

Or if you went back and said, “some supporters in one party will be so upset with the election results that they will violently storm the capital to prevent the vote from being certified by Congress”. Then how many GOPers would say “typical irrational liberals”

Well this is the same people who went from "Trump will never open concentration camps, you're being dramatic hyperbole strawman OMG" to "Well those aren't technically concentration camps because they aren't in Germany" in the space of about 6 months.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

As predicted, Pelosi rejected Meadows appointment to the 1/6 commission and also Bank's appointment.

Hi, Stacyhs. I thought she rejected Jordan and Banks. McCarthy says he'll pull them all.

Yes, that's what I said. First Pelosi rejected Banks and Meadows. Then McCarthy pulled the other three.

Yes, that is what you said, but that is not what happened. Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan. Meadows was never put forth as a proposed member of the committee.

 

[Cain]

I welcomed a coup attempt. I said it wouldn't work because Donald Trump is a dope, and it would permanently discredit Trumpism. For about a week, it looked like I was right. Nikki Haley, a woman of bottomless ambition, made her Trump critical remarks, but then things turned as elites realized the Republican base still supported Florida Man. That's twenty-five years of cable news propaganda, 30-plus years of Rush Limbaugh. Idiocracy wasn't built in a day. It's more resilient than COVID.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The other big problem Dump created was mucking up the elections themselves more than they were mucked up before. That's going to take a long while to sort out.

 

[gnome]

I welcomed a coup attempt. I said it wouldn't work because Donald Trump is a dope, and it would permanently discredit Trumpism. For about a week, it looked like I was right. Nikki Haley, a woman of bottomless ambition, made her Trump critical remarks, but then things turned as elites realized the Republican base still supported Florida Man. That's twenty-five years of cable news propaganda, 30-plus years of Rush Limbaugh. Idiocracy wasn't built in a day. It's more resilient than COVID.

Some people welcomed Trump because they thought it was a sure way for Republicans to lose in 2016. I wasn't in the habit before, but any temptation I ever had to hope for a group to make a foolish and harmful decision, counting on it costing them support, is absolutely over.

 

[Stacyhs]

Yes, that is what you said, but that is not what happened. Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan. Meadows was never put forth as a proposed member of the committee.

Oops. Sorry. I did mean Jordan. Meadows is the other sycophant who has taken up permanent residence in Trump's colon. It's easy to confuse one Trump sycophant with another as they all spout the same crap.

 

[Stacyhs]

Some people welcomed Trump because they thought it was a sure way for Republicans to lose in 2016. I wasn't in the habit before, but any temptation I ever had to hope for a group to make a foolish and harmful decision, counting on it costing them support, is absolutely over.

You made the classic mistake of underestimating the stupidity of the average American voter. So did I.

 

[Stacyhs]

This could just as easily go in the Trump mental illness thread.

The authors of "I Alone Can Fix It" said that during their over 2 hours interview with Trump, it was "just one lie after another" and that he's living in an alternate universe.

Trump: I'm a big believer in science...Are you talking about disinformation or are you talking about lies? There is a more beautiful word called disinformation.

“There was a lot of love, I’ve heard that from everybody,” he continued. “Many, many people have told me, ‘That was a loving crowd.’ ”

The Capitol Police were ushering people in, the Capitol Police were very friendly,” he asserted.


"It was zero threat. Look, they went in and they shouldn't have done it.
Some of them went in and they, they're hugging and kissing the police and guards. You know, they had great relationships. A lot of people were waved in, and then they walked in and the walked out."

Don't believe your lying eyes when you watch the videos of Jan. 6. Believe Donald Trump because he has such a great reputation as a truth teller. Idiots.

Trump is so mentally ill that he's detached from reality. And so are his supporters.

 

[mgidm86]

This stuff is so depressing. I am going to take one minute today and remember how thankful and relieved I was on November 7th when I heard that Trump had lost. Things could be so much worse. Maybe they will be one day, but I need to relax for a moment or two.

Oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Craig4]

I don't think a coup would have succeeded. There were however about half a dozen people who made sure we didn't find out and most their patriotism was found rather late.

 

[Paul2]

This stuff is so depressing. I am going to take one minute today and remember how thankful and relieved I was on November 7th when I heard that Trump had lost. Things could be so much worse. Maybe they will be one day, but I need to relax for a moment or two.

Oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

People were literally dancing in the streets.