Trump's accomplishments

Segnosaur said:
Actually, no he didn't.

He got the U.S. involved in Libya, but Obama didn't start that war... it was already a conflict before Obama joined in the bombing campaign. And there was that 'war' with ISIS, but that was in response to attacks initiated by the terrorist organizations.
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Look, you gotta give Trumpers a pass. We can't expect them to understand complex concepts like "start" or "war".
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I'd forgotten about this thread. What a perfect place to drop this video. Take it away, Beau.



Yeah. I'll be sharing this one. Trumpkins need to see it.
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Not necessarily a bad (or inaccurate) video... but he should have provided an emphasis right in the video where he got the list of 'fascist points/signs' from.
 
Also, to be fair, there's different lists of the traits of facsism, and they have a tendency to vary a great deal in detail. Beau picked one that fit Trump like a glove.
 
Ziggurat said:
Did you worry about Obama starting wars?

Because he actually did, and Trump didn't.
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If Obama had started a war, it would have been for good reasons, after other options had been exhausted, and after proper consideration for the consequences, and not as a result of insults thrown around on Twitter.
 
zooterkin said:
If Obama had started a war,
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What do you mean, "if"?

it would have been for good reasons, after other options had been exhausted, and after proper consideration for the consequences, and not as a result of insults thrown around on Twitter.
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You are describing your fears about Trump, not the reality of him.
 
For fairness' sake, I wasn't really worried about Trump starting a war abroad.

I was, however, very concerned about him overthrowing democracy at home. I can't remember ever worrying about that with a previous POTUS, not even Bush Jr.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
For fairness' sake, I wasn't really worried about Trump starting a war abroad.

I was, however, very concerned about him overthrowing democracy at home. I can't remember ever worrying about that with a previous POTUS, not even Bush Jr.
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People here seem to think that being worried about something is evidence in and of itself that they should have been worried. It's quite strange.
 
Ziggurat said:
Did you worry about Obama starting wars?

Because he actually did, and Trump didn't.
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:rolleyes:
Mmmmm........no.

And Obama didn't let four hundred thousand USAians be killed by a disease because of his stupidity, ineptitude and cowardice.
 
Ziggurat said:
People here seem to think that being worried about something is evidence in and of itself that they should have been worried. It's quite strange.
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Nah, what's strange is when people make claims that are demonstrably at odds with reality, famously refuse to support those claims, then expect to be taken seriously the next time they make laughably wrong claims.
 
wareyin said:
Nah, what's strange is when people make claims that are demonstrably at odds with reality, famously refuse to support those claims, then expect to be taken seriously the next time they make laughably wrong claims.
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You mean like claim a dictionary's definition of a word is wrong because it doesn't agree with their definition?
 
Ziggurat said:
People here seem to think that being worried about something is evidence in and of itself that they should have been worried. It's quite strange.
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Good point. For example, some people think that, just because a lot of people have been convinced by a lengthy disinformation campaign to be worried about voter fraud, the voting system must therefore be worryingly prone to voter fraud. As you say, quite strange.

Dave
 
A simple rule I go by (which didn't need to be stated until Trump and his excusers came along) eliminates a bunch of the suggested examples of Trump's achievements: If you're in a job that enables you to just give orders and have people follow them, giving orders is not an achievement.
 
Stacyhs said:
You mean like claim a dictionary's definition of a word is wrong because it doesn't agree with their definition?
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i have a feeling there's going to be some argument about what the definition of the word "start" is soon
 
He's almost certainly ended discussion on the matter of "Who was America's worst President?"
 
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