Trump and 9/11

[Leftus]

He lied that he predicted Osama bin Laden’s 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center, Liar

Not that I've put anything into looking into it, but I don't the Trump ever made the claim he predicted the attack.

The thing is, after the first failed attempt, a second one was inevitable. Everyone *knew* it was going to happen again, but nobody had the *how* or *when* which would be an important part of a prediction.

 

[Leftus]

Seems that Trump's comments about mini nukes or canisters of Anthrax shows a lack of knowledge of the future.

No mini nukes have been used in terrorism. Anthrax attacks were low tech, just powder deposited in mailing envelopes, and were extremely targeted and did not "devastate" any major cities.

No mention of using hijacked airlines as a weapon, which was a novelty of the 9/11 attacks. Trump was just talking about commonly understood tropes of the time.

Nor any creativity. You wouldn't need to make the fusion happen either. Just standard bomb with radioactive material. A dirty bomb would probably do just as much damage or more.

Not doing any research on this computer about that.

 

[beachnut]

broke clock, no hands

Not that I've put anything into looking into it, but I don't the Trump ever made the claim he predicted the attack.

The thing is, after the first failed attempt, a second one was inevitable. Everyone *knew* it was going to happen again, but nobody had the *how* or *when* which would be an important part of a prediction.

He claims things all the time, he is the supreme BS artist of the ages...

https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-poli...xaggerations-predicting-bin-ladens-911-attack

The never ending clownstick show of woo, continues, and he predicted, what is it up to now, 27 times, the coronavirus would go away...

Like conspiracy theorists, the president as a broke clock could be right twice a day, if he had hands

 

[Leftus]

He claims things all the time, he is the supreme BS artist of the ages...

https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-poli...xaggerations-predicting-bin-ladens-911-attack

The never ending clownstick show of woo, continues, and he predicted, what is it up to now, 27 times, the coronavirus would go away...

Like conspiracy theorists, the president as a broke clock could be right twice a day, if he had hands

Sorry, the claim is not that he predicted 9/11, or any other attack. The statement:

Trump added that people said to him, ”‘You predicted that Osama Bin Laden had to be killed, before he knocked down the World Trade Center.’ It’s true.”

Isn't a prediction of the specific attack, just that OBL should have been dealt with. Which doesn't appear to be true, but it's still a far cry, and an uncharitable reading, of what he actually said. The "it's true" part, relates to the killing, and not the towers.

While it does not appear that he directly stated that we should end OBL, I think he was strongly implying it when he talked about missed opportunities when we hit targets in the Sudan or Afghanistan.

He did "predict" another attack, by terrorists. But again, it's a worthless prediction with no times, targets, or specific actors. It's one that will never be wrong.

 

[Allen773]

EVERYONE paying attention before 9/11 was predicting that Al Qaeda would continue to attack the US and its allies, and by 2000-2001 it was clear to many in the US government - specifically the CIA and FBI, but also in the NSC, and both Presidents Clinton and Bush - that bin Laden was “determined to strike in the US.” A lot of people were also saying that bin Laden needed to be killed, and everyone paying attention agreed with that or that at the very least, he should be sentenced to life in a SuperMax.

It was no secret that bin Laden and his friends were a clear threat to the United States and that more terrorist attacks were coming. Trump was echoing the pre-9/11 consensus here. Nothing groundbreaking at all.

 

[beachnut]

How can a liar and an idiot do more than brag about it.

Proof of lies, making him an idiot
https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-claims-osama-bin-laden-death-2000-book/

Liar, idiot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/19/us/politics/fact-check-trump-bin-laden-pakistan-mcraven.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wir...s-exaggerations-predicting-bin-laden-66566713

Idiot in chief can't stop spreading BS and lies, dumbed down for his cult of gullible followers
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ck-baghdadi-death-al-qaeda-isis-a9173476.html

Fooling people into thinking he predicted 9/11
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-continues-to-make-up-alternative-facts/

The poor guy boasts on this subject after 9/11. Those boasts are not backed with a single reference to UBL in his 2000 book, and did not predict the UBL attack of 2001.

His book appears to be written by someone else who was stating the current overall threat assessment at the time based on multiple threats around the world, in the post USSR era, not new insights, but the standard stuff after the fall of the USSR.
Contrary to his recent boasts on Twitter and elsewhere, Trump’s single reference to bin Laden in the 2000 book did not “predict” the bin Laden-led attack of 2001.

 

[Venom]

geggy do you acknowledge that OBL and his crew were responsible for the 9/11 attacks?
Trump seems to.

Your posting history shows you throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. You allude to competing Truther narratives. One day it's a cover up. The next day it's an attack on NIST's credibility or the improbability of the hijackers carrying out the operation at all.

It reminds me of the truthers in a Facebook group I'm in who pretend they don't see the others' narrative or conflicting arguments. But you're doing it all by yourself.