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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford removed!

Praktik

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Here is our thread on JREF to discuss.

Great way to start my week! And totally avoidable for Ford - had he the character to show an ounce of humility:

(money quote from the judge) "It is difficult to accept an error in judgment defence based essentially on a stubborn sense of entitlement..."

Dont let the door hit ya on the way out! ;)
 
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Ford has announced he intends to appeal the decision, so assuming he gets a stay of the decision while the appeal is made he'll continue to be mayor until such time as that process comes to a conclusion.
 
Wow, Ford could always move south of the Border, get US Citizenship,and take up a political career in Chicago.He would fit right in there......
 
Couldn't happen to a more deserving fellow. I'm sure Mel Lastman'll shed a tear for him though.
birds of a feather those two....


Lastman's time as mayor wasn't the greatest, but I always recall one positive thing which I still remember. When he announced he was going to take part in the Gay Pride Parade as mayor representing the city, he got criticism from some quarters. But he responded to that by saying that he was mayor of all the people in the city.

Contrast that with Mr. Ford, who has steadfastly refused to participate in the parade.
 
Wow, Ford could always move south of the Border, get US Citizenship,and take up a political career in Chicago.He would fit right in there......

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Ford on a recent chicago trip...;)
 
Lastman's time as mayor wasn't the greatest, but I always recall one positive thing which I still remember. When he announced he was going to take part in the Gay Pride Parade as mayor representing the city, he got criticism from some quarters. But he responded to that by saying that he was mayor of all the people in the city.

Contrast that with Mr. Ford, who has steadfastly refused to participate in the parade.

Good point.
Ford was tone deaf, as a rule.
 
Lastman's time as mayor wasn't the greatest, but I always recall one positive thing which I still remember. When he announced he was going to take part in the Gay Pride Parade as mayor representing the city, he got criticism from some quarters. But he responded to that by saying that he was mayor of all the people in the city.

Contrast that with Mr. Ford, who has steadfastly refused to participate in the parade.

Mel had some "D'oh" moments (only one comes direct to mind was the Africa cannibal stewing pot one) but he certainly wasn't the relentless Tommy Boy goofball Ford is.

T'is astonishing the company business hasn't gone under for lack of leadership skills

Fitz
 
I heard he had bike lanes ripped out.

If true, he is welcome to govern my city. Hell, I'll front him $3150.

Probably won't get the chance though - I'd bet Ford isn't going anywhere. The will of the good people of Toronto will not be subverted by a handful of hardcore leftists having a tantrum over the prospect of responsible spending and governance.
 
Rarely do you find a politician so adamantly determined to shoot himself in the foot. A great deal of his defense in this case rests on "I didn't read the rules that the Mayor's supposed to follow, so even if I did something wrong, I did it in ignorance".

Yes, the whole "I didn't know it was illegal" defense has worked so well in the past. "I'm sorry, your honor, I didn't know that it was illegal to drive 150kph."

Then there's stuff like the fact he refuses to get a personal driver in order to 'save the city's money', but is then photographed behind the wheel of his car, driving as he's reading documents. His defense -- that he's a busy guy, and needs to use his driving time to catch up on stuff. The fact that it's massively unsafe doesn't faze him, and not only did he not give much of an apology, but he seemed to indicate that he'd continue doing it.

The man is an arrogant buffoon. He has good intentions, of that I have no doubt...from a perspective of what he wants to do, he's probably the most honest and sincere politician that Toronto's seen in decades. But he continues to operate on the principle that he can do whatever he wants, just because he thinks it's right...and any rules that may exist simply don't apply to him.

My biggest concern is that this case could turn him into a martyr, and he'd be voted in again in the next elections as a kind of sympathy vote; Toronto needs to get rid of this guy, and find someone who actually understands how to communicate and work with people who aren't their brother.
 
I heard he had bike lanes ripped out.

If true, he is welcome to govern my city. Hell, I'll front him $3150.

Probably won't get the chance though - I'd bet Ford isn't going anywhere. The will of the good people of Toronto will not be subverted by a handful of hardcore leftists having a tantrum over the prospect of responsible spending and governance.

You know if this was anyone other than Rob Ford - MAYBE

guy is his own worst enemy - of course he would love to take the coward's way out, and rationalize it all away as the product of some vast "leftist conspiracy" instead of doing what any self-respecting, ideological righty should do and take personal responsibility- but the reason he is getting the boot is entirely his fault: Rob Ford is Rob ford, and he is his own worst enemy.

The only conspiracy is the conspiracy of stupidity and arrogance that exists in his own fat head.
 
My biggest concern is that this case could turn him into a martyr, and he'd be voted in again in the next elections as a kind of sympathy vote; Toronto needs to get rid of this guy, and find someone who actually understands how to communicate and work with people who aren't their brother.

The buffoon image can be an albatross around a politician's neck - I really think he did enough damage to melt away enough people to make martyr thing play only among his die-hards, already in the habit of rationalizing everything away as part of a partisan cognitive dissonance defense mechanism...

The "normals" have had a chance to see Ford in action and it wasn't pretty. I think its a high hill for him to climb, and definitely contingent on people on the right staying back, but I think a lot of them would love to have a different guy up there as the masthead.
 
I got my news about this guy from CBC Radio, mostly, and occasionally from the Toronto Star. I thought his mode of operating stunk. In my judgment, if the reports of the underlying facts were even marginally accurate, Ford's conflicts of interest were clear, slam dunks.

I hope Canadians would take a damn good look at this guy. Canadians don't like "United States politics"; they think they're better than that. And usually they are. Ford is a guy who adopted "United States politics" full throttle. (Who does he blame for his ouster? The left wing media, of course! Does that sound at all familiar??)

Well, Canadians, how do you all like "United States politics" on your soil? Pretty, isn't it?

He says he's going to continue to fight. But just remember: if he gets away with it, you'll see a lot more just like him.
 
I heard he had bike lanes ripped out.

If true, he is welcome to govern my city. Hell, I'll front him $3150.

Probably won't get the chance though - I'd bet Ford isn't going anywhere. The will of the good people of Toronto will not be subverted by a handful of hardcore leftists having a tantrum over the prospect of responsible spending and governance.

Riiiight. Because we all know that the law is written by "hardcore leftists" alone. Honestly, it isn't like he hasn't been on council and got parachuted into the mayor's chair completely out of right field. Even then, any adult with a couple of working neurons and a smidgen of morals would've recognised the predicament he was thrusting himself into. He was given every opportunity to correct an obvious error on his part but his own innate stubbornness forced him to blunder on.

No, he insisted on hoisting himself on a petard of his own making and now he'll blame whoever makes the most convenient 'target'. Watching his brother on CP24 last night crying crocodile tears over the 'leftists' was cringe-worthy. I almost pitched a lamp at the TV when he started wailing about the "elites" targeting them. These milk-fed goofballs are running the family firm and are bored millionaires wrapping themselves in the cloak of being common men (which they aren't). What they are is uncommonly stupid and disingenuous and worthy of being placed in a Hall of Shame alongside Mike "Common Sense Revolution" Harris

Here's a video to give you a sense of the man

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151110662065950&set=vb.29313088338&type=3

BTW, "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" has turned this around and apparently Marg, Princess Warrior will be appearing on tonight's episode addressing the ruling. There's even a FB page for her as candidate for mayor. Should make for interesting television :D

Fitz
 
You know if this was anyone other than Rob Ford - MAYBE

guy is his own worst enemy - of course he would love to take the coward's way out, and rationalize it all away as the product of some vast "leftist conspiracy" instead of doing what any self-respecting, ideological righty should do and take personal responsibility- but the reason he is getting the boot is entirely his fault: Rob Ford is Rob ford, and he is his own worst enemy.

The only conspiracy is the conspiracy of stupidity and arrogance that exists in his own fat head.

Personal responsibility isn't his strong suit. I wonder if the electorate of any city of any size anywhere else would tolerate their elected representative cutting out from his duties to coach a high school football team. God knows, I'm quite sure he'd fire any of the family firm's employees on the spot if they demonstrated the same attitude. Yet he seems to feel that he deserves special treatment.

Personally, I would be happy to give him the freedom to coach the team as 24/7

Fitz
 

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