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Tony Gauci and the mystery shopper

Megrahi himself, in an artilcle by Marcela Mega, linked from Robert Black's blog says: .


That's a really interesting article, Bunntamas, thanks for the link. The Daily Record is a horrible downmarket tabloid which I normally wouldn't use to line the cat's litter tray, so I never saw that before. Just shows, it can print decent journalism when it likes.

Now, note that the passport was issued to him. Not forged, faked or otherwise illegal. If you read Trail of the Octopus you'll read about the US DIA doing exactly the same thing when it wants to send an agent abroad without him being recognised or traced. You think James Bond always went to confront Blofeldt with "James Bond" written in his passport?

Megrahi, who is doing a life sentence in Greenock prison, said: "The Libyan government developed a policy of giving certain people a passport in a different name and identity so that these people could be involved as agents trading with foreign entities on behalf of Libyan government bodies.

"But the passport would not identify the holder as someone involved with a Libyan government organ.

"If I used my passport in my real name then it would be very easy for someone to see I was a representative of LAA. I was therefore only one of a number of people who were given an extra passport.

"It was not obtained by cheating or falsehood and it was not obtained for intelligence purposes but in order to do business with other bodies for Libya."


It was entirely accepted in court that this passport was legally issued by the Libyan government. It was not forged or faked or illegal. His possession of that passport was in no way a criminal offence, as you stated.

Kinda puts a wrinkle in that so-called high security at Luqa.


Er, no, not really.

He's only talking about travel between Luqa and Tripoli, which apparently didn't require a full passport to be produced, and let airline personnel go back and forward informally.

He's not talking about flights between Luqa and Frankfurt, and he's not talking about unaccompanied baggage. That statement has no bearing on the presence or absence of an unaccompanied bag on an Air Malta flight to Frankfurt.

Rolfe.
 
Call it whatever you will. It was a passport issued to him under a false name. He was employed by LAA and allegedly traveling for business purposes for LAA, even using his LAA discount at the hotel in Slima. This is NOT a diplomatic reason for using a FALSE passport, hence committing FRAUD.


That is complete nonsense. You said he was committing a criminal offence by having a false passport. This is entirely untrue. He had a legally-issued passport in a false name, which is something every government does, to allow people it wants to be able to travel untraced, to do just that.

And according to him, "it was obtained in order to do business with other bodies with Libya." You don't get to decide what is proper use of such a passport and what isn't. Screaming FRAUD doesn't make it so.

Everywhere else? You're kinda reaching there. Right, others WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT, and conducting governmental business undercover may use diplomatic passports.


Every country on the face of the globe that has progressed out of the stone age issues passports to its agents in false names. The passport was not illegal, forged or fraudulently obtained, Megrahi was not committing a criminal offence by using it, and he was not committing fraud.

So, now what was it Megrahi was doing whilst traveling under a false passport again? Working for the government? Checking out someone to build his staircase? Buying parts? Working for LAA? Or planting a bomb? I, the courts, and many others think it was the latter. Clearly we disagree on that last one, but that is a bit of a rhetorical point, isn't it.


Well, yes, you're big on rhetoric. It's not much of a substitute for reasoned argument though.

What was Megrahi doing that day with the Abdusamad passport? That's getting quite a long way off topic for this thread you know. It's something you've asked many times before though. Always demanding, why has Megrahi not explained what he was doing that day. I gave a handful of possible reasons, which seemed perfectly plausible to me.

Now, however, you have linked to an obscure article I was previously unaware of, which shows that he had indeed given an explanation, but that his own advocate decided not to bring it out in court.

In his most recent statement, which he gave in Arabic to a translator, he says he was in Malta on domestic business the day before the tragedy.

Megrahi said he went to buy some carpets and to find a carpenter willing to bring materials to Libya to fit a banister at his home.

He says: "You have to understand the situation Libya was in at that time.

"Our border with Egypt was closed, our border with Chad was closed, our border with Tunisia was uncertain as they had just changed leadership.

"Malta was the only gate and you did not need a visa or a passport. It is a very short flight, 30 minutes, and Libyan people often go and come home on the same day.


And there's more, about why he was using the Abdusamad passport for this mundane domestic trip.

You may decide you don't believe him. Who knows, I may decide I don't believe him, after I've thought about it for a bit. However, you cannot go on asserting that he has not given any explanation.

Charming. You're losing it a bit here. Suggest you take a breath darling.


I really don't think it's me who's "losing it" here.

Rolfe.
 
You may decide you don't believe him. Who knows, I may decide I don't believe him, after I've thought about it for a bit.

Sigh... Yes, perhaps one day, we will agree on something. Obviously, today is not that day. I'll leave it at that and take the high road.

Happy and safe holidays to you and yours, Rolfe.

Cheers,

~ Buntamas
 
Hm. When I think high road, I think something like "moral high ground," or the noble path, or something. Not sure what was meant here, in the context of people of being unable to agree with each other. Who's actually trying to use relevant evidence to communicate and convince here?

Well here's part of why I've been not commenting as much myself the last few days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1mPEIebdzk

That's actually me narrating and everything, good for a laugh if nothing else. A bit dense, a little rushed in the production, no pro clearances or anything, but it's informative, I think watchable, and it's up on Youtube. Well, the second half won't be up 'til tomorrow.

Can anyone spot any factual errors or the like?
 
I probably should have just let that sit there. It's pointless my asking Bunntamas a question. As soon as she's got something to laugh at me for, it's a go, but anything else, ignore.

Well, here's part two of the video I narrated while sometimes stuffed up, tired, half-drunk, etc. Full of conspiracy nonsense about lying paid witnesses not even identifying Megrahi anyway. Got to be something in there one could find hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlFbk3PeFU&feature=player_embedded
 
It's pretty astonishing really. You often hear, or read about, suggested anomalies or contradictions in high profile investigations and court cases. Whether people then actually take an interest, for a variety of reasons, and commit themselves to the time to look thoroughly and examine the evidence produced by the investigation, not simply deduced from mainstream media reporting, which, on occasion can be itself obviously skewed towards particular viewpoint itself, is quite another matter.

However, all too often the apparent inconsistencies or contradictions alleged by some have been simply exaggerations, falsehoods or lacking any credible support from the hard facts and evidence established and available. Then again, some may draw questions around the facts and evidence presented itself.

The bombing of Pan Am 103 is a widely known tragedy, and the conviction of the sole Libyan Megrahi is relatively well documented throughout a wide range of media resources with the actual Kamp Zeist court determination and conclusion arrived at by the 3 Scottish judges in the trial of Megrahi is available for everyone to read. The critical details case itself against Megrahi are however not so well recognised by the wider public even allowing for most peoples acknowledgement of some of the lingering doubts that have surrounded the conviction since 2001. I don't really think anyone could however imagine that these doubts and anomalies are actually considerably underemphasized in this case and conviction.

Once again, even for those who are quite familiar with the difficulties and inconsistencies with the case, examining in closer detail the processes that these doubts emanated from, merely reveals further illogical conclusions, and more deeply concerning, highlights a raft of wholly improper procedures used by the investigators in an attempt to construct, no matter how absurd or tenuous, some form of case against a suspect. As a few of us, and no doubt many other readers on the Jref forums who have not commented, have discovered, the doubts, inconsistencies and questions that have surrounded some of the absolutely critical areas the investigation, evidence and trial; the MST timer fragment, the Toshiba manual, the Frankfurt records and the unaccompanied bag from Malta, when examined, are actually far more serious than just 'doubts'.

The provenance of evidence, standard documenting procedures significantly altered without plausible reason, statements and reports suppressed, testimony given that has altered significantly since first interviewed, financial rewards discussed and the credibility of those involved in many of these aspects should set alarm bells ringing in any rational person.

And once again, as with the other critical areas of the case against Megrahi mentioned above, this is precisely the case with the 'identification' of him by the Maltese shopkeeper, who allegedly sold him the clothes that were then packed around the bomb used to bring down the jumbo jet just before Christmas nearly 22 years.

The doubts often raised relate to the fact that the shopkeeper received substantial 'compensation' for his evidence provided and testimony given at Kamp Zeist. Of all the evidence produced by the investigators showing Megrahi's complicity in the bombing, it was perhaps the Maltese shopkeepers evidence and identification that was the primary foundation of the case and the most damning resulting in the Libyan's conviction. Other areas of importance alleging Megrahi's guilt, could perhaps falter, but not his identification as the buyer of the clothing. This was fundamental to the case built subsequently on inference upon inference stemming from the clothes purchase.

Megrahi was never shown to have done anything untoward at Luqa airport the morning the bag was said to be loaded, unaccompanied on the flight tagged for Pan Am 103, and no evidence was ever found at Malta by the US, UK, German or Maltese investigators to show how he, or anyone for that matter, managed to achieve this. There was no evidence produced directly linking him to the timers sold by the Swiss company allegedly used in bomb. There was no evidence of Megrahi with access to or using Semtex. No evidence of Megrahi with a Samonsite suitcase that he then packed his purchase of clothes into, took to Luqa airport and no evidence or suggestion presented by the investigation or court that he had ever been involved in past terror atrocities or activities.

However, if it could be shown he had indeed bought the clothing from the small shop in Malta, found scorched from it's proximity to the bomb, then the rest of the prosecutions case, where inference built upon inference leads to "a pattern" as the judges put it, then maybe, just maybe, the whole highly circumstantial and tenuous case could just about hold together. Enough for a conviction? Not in my opinion, and many others including highly respected legal observers, but astoundingly the court and judges saw differently. It's suggested, quite reasonably, for many other politically potent reasoning.

So, we have the Maltese shopkeeper, 9 months after the disaster, giving his first known statement to the investigation which suggested that he had indeed remembered in some quite remarkably detail, the purchase of the clothing, a possible description of the buyer and a rough date all this had occurred. "Too good to be true" as one investigator put it. Quite.

The problem was however that the Maltese shopkeeper and his recollection of the clothing sold was evidently quite accurate and thus the same reliability show be given to his description of the buyer and circumstances of sale, and none of these provide an identification of Megrahi, or to have occurred when Megrahi was even on Malta. Megrahi was 36 at the time, 5' 8" and was not well built. The Maltese shopkeeper's recollection was of a man of 6' or over, 50years+ and well built. Together with the sale happening when the Christmas decoration were not yet up, it was raining slightly and his brother was absent from the shop. Megrahi was on Malta on December 7th, but no rain was recorded that day, the Christmas decorations went up the day before on the 6th and his brother was likely to have been in the shop on the 7th. Could it have been another day?

Yes, the 23rd November, the shopkeepers brother was away watching football, slight rainfall was recorded and, of course, the decorations weren't put up for nearly another 2 weeks. The slight problem with this was that Megrahi wasn't on Malta on the 23rd November.

Worse still, when the Maltese shopkeeper finally did pick Megrahi's picture tentatively out of a photo spread more than 2 years after the sale had occurred as a 'resemblance' but 'too young' of the buyer of clothing, it was from a photograph of Megrahi which bore no semblance to his actual appearance in 1988 at the time of the incident.

By the time Kamp Zeist came around, Gauci had already also identified no less than 4 other men in the interviews and years since 1989, and was allowed to make an initial identification just before Kamp Zeist during a line-up when Megrahi's contemporary photo (although quite distinctly different from the photo the shopkeeper had originally picked out in 1991) had been plastered all over the media in all the years since the indictment had been issued by the US and UK govt officials and anyone, even with just a passing interest in the case, would have known Megrahi.

The shopkeepers testimony and recollection in the courtroom then either utterly contradicted his initial description of the buyer and the probable date of purchase, or became increasingly vague. The buyer was now "under 60", "not more than 6ft" and the circumstances that the purchase occurred became confusing with the rain becoming lighter and lighter while the Christmas decorations were likely "up" now but "can't remember"..

So, in actuality there was no independent identification of Megrahi, and in fact the description given by the Maltese clothing shopkeeper all but completely excluded any possibility of it being Megrahi. The date of sale was, given the evidence known, was also most likely on a day Megrahi wasn't even on the Mediterranean island, and no one need ever consider the values and merit of possible financial inducement or subsequent rewards paid to witnesses for testimony at trials, and therefore the credibility of such a witness.

The facts and evidence from the shopkeepers earliest recollection can not in any sense be attributed to be Abdelbaset Mohmed Ali al-Megrahi.
So, if he did not buy the clothes and there wasn't a shred of evidence uncovered throughout the 11 years of investigation from Malta to show the bag was actually introduced there, then who really bought the clothing and where was the bag inserted into the system?.

Well, there's certainly stronger evidence suggesting a Samsonite was surreptitiously introduced at Heathrow which would also help explain away the peculiar and irregular provenance of the timer found to be allegedly used in the bomb if it had been loaded at Luqa - as we're supposed to believe, without evidence, it was. Because, 38mins after 103 left the Heathrow tarmac, it disintegrated 6 miles above Lockerbie, and which fits snugly in the precise timeframe of the barometric devices found just 6 weeks before in Germany, and not the digital timer Megrahi was said to have set from Malta.

The SCCRC ultimately found the Maltese shopkeepers evidence in identifying Megrahi as inconsistent, while many of the Police notes and statements regarding his evidence had also been withheld from Megrahi's defence at the original trial. They did however, in recommending the case back to appeal, dismiss many of the allegations and questions surrounding much of the forensic evidence presented at Kamp Zeist.

As many experts, commentators and writers have continually noted there are a great many mysterious anomalies and doubts which persist regarding the calibre of this evidence and the 'experts' who were assigned to carry out the forensic analysis and documentation on the case. An unholy trinity of experts, Hayes, Feraday and Thurman were used by the UK and US authorities respectively when all three had already been utterly discredited and criticised by the own peers and associates, and even in previous court cases that had resulted in high profile miscarriages of justice.

One apparent whistleblower from within the Scottish police investigation had alleged manipulation and misconduct in the forensic evidence supposedly found around Lockerbie and presented at Kamp Zeist. The fragment of microchip, the Toshiba manual and an item of clothing it was claimed had been either fabricated or manipulated in order to steer the investigation towards an entirely different set of culprits as oppose to that the investigation had been following since the fall of Pan Am 103.

One of the additional claims made by the whistleblower in 2007, which is interesting and relevant given what has been discussed in this thread, was that before the Maltese shopkeeper had, in Feb 1991, cautiously picked out an old black and white photo of Megrahi, he had been presented with the more contemporary colour photo of Megrahi available to the investigators in other photospreads and had failed to identify it as the buyer of the clothing.
 
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Thanks, Eddie, for a nicely voluminous comment. If I may go straight to the end of it:

It's pretty ast
One of the additional claims made by the whistleblower in 2007, which is interesting and relevant given what has been discussed in this thread, was that before the Maltese shopkeeper had, in Feb 1991, cautiously picked out an old black and white photo of Megrahi, he had been presented with the more contemporary colour photo of Megrahi available to the investigators in other photospreads and had failed to identify it as the buyer of the clothing.

Yes, the "Golfer." I'm intrigued by many of these claims, have heard there are some question marks over his credibility, and have been meaning to take a closer look. I wouldn't be surprised to find that claim at least was true. The reason it seems Tony was shown the Czech photo instead of the Abdusamad one, could be because we were just never told about this first pass, where he declined the picture that actually looks like Megrahi, and only pretended that grainy "undated" shot was the ONE they chose to use. How many records of his meeting with police turned up missing? It was quite a few as I recall...
 
As soon as she's got something to laugh at me for, it's a go....Well, here's part two of the video I narrated while sometimes stuffed up, tired, half-drunk, etc. Full of conspiracy nonsense...

Yep, well what can I say? Thanks for the latest opportunity to laugh.Your posts do typically provide great fodder for laughter, but this one absolutely takes the cake!

Thinking back on the criticism you made about Richard Marquise's latest speech at Syracuse University, and comparing it to this... LOL! It goes without saying, there is absolutely no comparison between Marquise's presentation; extremely well attended by many, many scholars, press and dignitaries, at a highly regarded academic institution and this ... whatever you call it...

Hang on a sec.... I need to stop for a minute and pick myself up off the floor after falling off my chair in laughter after watching your cartoon.
It is... OMG... LOL! LOL! LOL!.. Dude you should give up CTs and go into comedy. Seriously!
I love the "bugs bunny" music and "alien" glow you gave to the prosecutor cartoon character. Thanks for giving us all more insight into this shining representation of the "depth" in your adolescent thought process.

Still laughing....tears rolling down my face and stomach hurts. Thanks CL! I needed a good belly laugh.
~B.
 
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Well, at least you are watching (albeit in uncontrollable laughter, or so you say) and presumably listening too Bunntamas. Which is the whole point really.

It may look hilarious to you, but its a damn sight more accurate with regards to Tony Gauci's identification (which you were insistent was discussed) than anything that might spring from Mr Marquise's lips. And yes, despite the convulsive laughter, rest assured you know that too.

And now this particular discussion has quite evidently shown the identification of Megrahi by the shopkeeper to be wholly unreliable - even ignoring the subsequent financial inducements made - and that the description of the buyer, as first recollected by Mr Gauci, does not equate to someone matching Megrahi, and the photo of him eventually hesitantly picked by Gauci in Feb 1991 bears absolutely no similarity to Megrahi at the time of the incident.

Gauci's recollections of the day of sale are confusing and unrelaible, but given the evidence that is known and confirmed by independent sources, such as the meteorological dept on Malta, then on balance the date is most likely the Wed Nov 23rd and not two weeks later. On a day when there is no evidence of Megrahi presence on the island. Or have the met office in Malta, just like all the airport staff and Air Malta workers, been all paid to lie by the Libyans too?

And surely therefore no one, let alone a court, nor especially those seeking justice for their loved ones, can be satisfied or comfortable with this conclusion as a basis of identification?

What say you about this preposterous notion that a positive identification of Megrahi was made despite virtually all the known evidence, as discussed in this thread, indicates the contrary?
 
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Yep, well what can I say? Thanks for the latest opportunity to laugh.Your posts do typically provide great fodder for laughter, but this one absolutely takes the cake!

Thinking back on the criticism you made about Richard Marquise's latest speech at Syracuse University, and comparing it to this... LOL! It goes without saying, there is absolutely no comparison between Marquise's presentation; extremely well attended by many, many scholars, press and dignitaries, at a highly regarded academic institution and this ... whatever you call it...

Hang on a sec.... I need to stop for a minute and pick myself up off the floor after falling off my chair in laughter after watching your cartoon.
It is... OMG... LOL! LOL! LOL!.. Dude you should give up CTs and go into comedy. Seriously!
I love the "bugs bunny" music and "alien" glow you gave to the prosecutor cartoon character. Thanks for giving us all more insight into this shining representation of the "depth" in your adolescent thought process.

Still laughing....tears rolling down my face and stomach hurts. Thanks CL! I needed a good belly laugh.
~B.

Well I'm glad I was able to make your day. Laughter is good medicine and all that. Do be sure to tune out the informational content, which will likely cause a less favorable emotional reaction once it sinks in. There's been no meaningful identification of your villain as having a thing to do with those clothes.

There's nothing there behind the myth of Megrahi's guilt but some kind of will to power cloaked, for half its lifespan now, in a legal technicality of a highly questionable verdict.

But it was actual hands and a physical bomb, not legal opinions, that blew up that airplane. No evidence they were ever caught.

I feel okay saying this seeing your filters are in good working order anyway. I'm seriously glad I gave you a chuckle or, apparently, a lot more than that. And hey, it's almost Christmas and closer yet to another date I'm sure has always blended with the holidays in a weird way. If anything "nasty" has sunk in, sorry. Just shake it off and enjoy the brighter side of the season and do some soul-nourishing family stuff.

Buncrana said:
Gauci's recollections of the day of sale are confusing and unrelaible
Gotta disagree. His relevant evidence is clear and unequivocal in pointing to 23 November, when Megrahi was nowhere near Malta. Only if you take the silly step of merging his police statements with his 1999-2000 "evidence" at Zeist does it become highly garbled, from the changed story he told the udges, which they perversely accepted. Then it's quite clear what's going on, from mapping the obvious channels of the unreliable confusion emerging over: buyer age, height, rainfall, Christmas lights, at least. Everything that never lined up with Megrahi, suddenly comes closer at trial.

Only if one goes to the sillier extreme of considering only his statements at trial without even considering his police statements as read back at trial, could conclude his testimony tends to support Megrahi even possibly being the man. If one then goes back and accepts what he said in '89 as valid and his best memory at the time, but accepts it fits Megrahi, it must be due to some ten-year memory burst, or random memory loss that happens to make him more accurate on all these crucial points, by sheer coincidence.

That's just not rational thinking.
 
Excerpt from missing police statement I imagine could exist, circa mid-1991:
I said over six feet? I must been been drunk. I meant to say well under that. Didn't I say five-foot-eight? Meant to exactly. Swore I did. Also, he came into the store later and confessed to the bombing ... said he'd kill me if I told anyone. I'm exactly scared. Can I have a million dollars yet? The Libyans are scaring me again for telling too much. I only try to help you, good sirs. They look at the shop and it looks mean...
 
Ah, I was having a bit of a break. I'll start re-joining the human race, although I'm going on holiday in ten days so I'll be away again.

I think Tony's initial description is enormously significant. How many of us would volunteer that sort of detail about a man we'd seen once, for maybe half an hour, nine months earlier? Height and age, possibly. Neck, chest and waist measurements? I doubt it.

This is the description of a man who had been working in men's outfitting for 25 years. It's a skill most people don't have, but which you develop in a job like that. How to pick items out of the stock that will fit this particular customer.

Then, at Zeist, Tony doesn't just back-track on this evidence, he denies the skill he undoubtedly has. Supposing it was true, what he said at Zeist, that he actually wasn't any good at estimating these measurements? How would he have behaved in his original police interview?

He wouldn't have volunteered that information.

Bell and Armstrong didn't ask him to guess the customer's vital statistics, resulting in Tony making an inexpert and erroneous stab at it. Tony himself automatically came out with that information because that was what he remembered. That was what he was good at, and that was how he remembered customers.

But oh dear. Tony realises from various sources that the man in the cell at Zeist isn't built like that at all. Shorter, slighter, and without the large head and big chest he originally remembered. If you're Tony, good memory for his work but not very bright, what do you do? Do you insist that your memory is accurate, and scupper the prosecution, or not?

I think even without any external encouragement, he might have begun to lose the courage of his convictions. Many people have an ingrained belief that the police know who they're going after, and go after the right man. Terrible thing, if the police have gone to all this trouble in this big international case, for me to mess it all up by saying the wrong thing.

But if he had been thinking about sticking to his guns and insisting that he remembered a much older, taller and heavier-built man, $2 million is quite an incentive not to go there. The court didn't know about the money of course, but how can anyone impartial handwave away that original, detailed list of measurements, and believe Tony that a man who spontaneously came out with that detail was actually no good at judging build?

Rolfe.
 
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Thanks, Rolfe. It's been a slow conversation lately, eh? I'm pretty tied up myself with projects and work and things. So just a quick couple of thoughts/questions I have floating around:

Two points
1) Did he describe buyer build at trial? It doesn't seem like such a clear issue as height or age, but it is relevant, as the buyer was described in diimensions that seem too large and muscullar for Megrahi. He said he has no experience in height or age, so build can't be far behind among things a clothier should know. Was it made much of by the defense? Did anyone bother to look up (from Libyan tailor?) Megrahi's measurements for comparison? I don't imagine so...

2) Earlier you spoke of Tony's frequent use of the word "exactly." I was thinking about that again, and remembered he was, IIRC, giving evidence in Maltese, translated. So it's some equivalent word in Maltese and, from what I can tell, he means it is the usual way, just over-uses it.
 
One, it's in the transcript. I think Mr. Taylor tried to challenge him with what he'd said in his initial statement, and he tried to back-pedal. I've never seen anything but Megrahi's height stated, but to me he seems much slighter than the measurements stated.

Yes, it was the nature of the word being translated as "exactly" I was interested in. If you look at the evidence of the other Maltese witnesses, they all do it to some extent.

I'm tearing down Christmas decorations at the moment, and getting ready to go to Egypt for two weeks. (Just had a major panic that my passport didn't have a long enough validity on it - apparently one needs six months still to run to enter Egypt - but I checked and I'm OK.) However, I've been thinking quite a bit about that Czech photo. I might find some time to post about it before I go.

Rolfe.
 
Managed not to become a shark's dinner. Snorkelling was wonderful. Also managed to avoid the beginnings of the Egyptian uprising, by leaving Cairo about two days before it all started.

I'm reposting below a post from a few pages back, because I want to link to it and the pictures I put on a web server are 404ing for no reason that I can see. I've re-posted them elsewhere but I can't edit the links in the old post.

Rolfe.
 
Here's at least the important highlights of the identification process.

In 1988 Megrahi was 36 years old, 5 feet 8 inches tall and looked like this (the Abdusamad photo, which seems to be a reasonable likeness when compared to other photos we have). For an Arab, he has light skin.

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Tony's original description of the purchaser was given on 1st September 1989, the day he met the Scottish police for the first time, and first realised he might have information of interest to some inquiry or other.

  • Six feet or more in height
  • Big chest
  • Large head
  • Well built
  • The 42" jacket would have been too small
  • Not fat or paunchy
  • Black hair
  • Dark skin
  • Clean-shaven
  • Arab, and was speaking Arabic (which Tony spoke a little)
  • Libyan (or possibly, Arab and doesn't speak French, i.e. not Tunisian)
This is all from his first police statement. He was interviewed on a number of occasions during the next couple of weeks, and added a bit more.

  • About 50 years old
  • 36" waist
  • 16½ to 17 inch collar size
On 13th September Tony produced two images of the purchaser - an artist's impression (left) and a photofit (right).

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photofit.jpg


He said the artist's impression was a closer resemblance to the purchaser than the photofit. (I think they look like two different people, personally.)

The following day he picked out Mohamed Salam (left) from a photospread, and said while he resembled the man he was too young by about 20 years (Mohamed Salam was 32 years old in that picture). About two weeks later he picked out Abu Talb (right), and said he might have been the purchaser.

salam.jpg
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There were more statements and suggestions in the following months, which I'll skip for now. Fast forward to 15th February 1991, over two years later. By this time the investigation had become interested in Megrahi, which they weren't during the initial stages.

Tony was shown a photospread which included a picture of Megrahi allegedly!). There has been much criticism of this process, which I've outlined before, but I'll skip it for now. Here is the picture of Megrahi he said looked most like the purchaser of the pictures in the photospread (but was too young) - compared to the Abdusamad picture again, which is a decent likeness (right).

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m-1987.jpg


I have great difficulty in seeing the picture on the left as being a picture of Megrahi at all. It's a terrible likeness. But it's that likeness Tony picked as resembling the purchaser.

And there the matter was allowed to rest, for ten years. The only picture of Megrahi Tony had identified was one that didn't look like him.

However, that wasn't the only picture of Megrahi Tony saw during these ten years. Lockerbie was big news and the blockade of Libya was big news and many articles and features were published about it. Most of them with a picture of Megrahi, identifying him as the suspect.

Tony is known to have seen a number of these pictures. In fact, Paul was keeping a scrapbook of the things for him! Prof. Valentine's report lists a large number of articles with photos Tony had an opportunity to see, including one which Tony definitely had in his possession probably from December 1998 until it was taken from him only four days before the identity parade at Zeist.

During these ten years, and in particular during the months and weeks leading up to Zeist, Tony (in common with anyone else following the case) was able to learn what Megrahi really looked like. Anybody who had seen these better likenesses published in the press could have picked Megrahi out of a police lineup even if they'd never seen him before - much the same as any of us could identify someone we'd seen pictured in the papers on a number of occasions.

(And as an aside, the articles also revealed that Megrahi was 36 in 1988, not 50, and the pictures showed that he was of only average build and not especially tall.)

So, having picked out the round-faced blurry photo (left) in 1991, Tony was presented with Megrahi himself (right) in 1999. All he had to do was to decide whether to pick him out or not.

m-czech.jpg
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So he did.

So, of all the middle-aged-ish Arabs with a full head of black hair and no beard or moustache, what on earth about this makes us think the man Tony saw is at all likely to have been Megrahi?

Rolfe.
 
In view of the way the photos disappeared from the earlier posts, I thought it might be desirable to have a more permanent record of this aspect of the case. I therefore cobbled up a pdf document with what I think is a better summary, including the Welsh photo.

I can see two or three errors, that I'll correct later. I was trying to keep it short, but even so it ran to four pages. If I've missed out anything major, please someone let me know and I'll include it.

Rolfe.
 
Oh, by the way, thanks for that. Excellent resource. I need to get a more reliable file storage solution and host that plus the transcripts PDF. One of these days ...
 

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