Buncrana, what do you think of the possibility that Gauci's evidence was largely a result of a "Clever Hans" situation - I don't just mean the picking out of Megrahi after what seems to have been quite a lot of prompting, I mean the sale as a whole?
He was first approached by the local police, it seems, who must have been searching for Maltese shops stocking the particular Maltese-manufactured clothes found at Lockerbie. I don't know if we have any information on how they went about this. Presumably they had lists of retailers from the manufacturers, and visited those shops asking about possible purchases. I don't know how many shops they visited where the shopkeeper said, sorry, haven't a clue.
Evidently, they eventually found Tony "sandwich short of a picnic" Gauci, who didn't say he hadn't a clue. He starts to describe a purchase, and a purchaser. But what was he describing? How much did the Maltese police know about the specifics of the clothes, and how much might he have been feeding off their knowledge even then? (Did they mention an umbrella? A tweed jacket?)
How sure are we that he was really remembering selling the clothes in the bomb bag, as opposed to building a house of cards supplied by the investigators, on the foundation of a memory of a purchase that had nothing to do with PA103? Maybe the purchase David Wright witnessed?
I know there are some aspects (the umbrella and the tweed jacket) that point to the purchase really being of the clothing in question. I'm not entirely convinced though. There is evidence of receipts and supplier orders to support some of this, but have you any opinion on where the best source for this information is? I don't know whether there's anything there that would support a purchase likely to be of the PA103 items, or whether it was only looked at to see if it could assist in fixing the date.
For myself, I'm as reasonably certain as I can be that whatever happened, Megrahi didn't buy those clothes. (At least until McHronzi comes and explains how I'm wrong about that.) However, I'm not sure if we know whether we have to think about who did buy them, in Mary's House, on 23rd November, or whether there is genuine doubt about whether anything from Mary's House actually ended up in that suitcase at all.
I'm conscious of the peculiar nature of the purchase in the context of packing a terrorist device (someone in another thread said it sounded like a man with more money than time buying Christmas presents), and I'm also conscious of the incongruity of suggesting Abu Talb might have been the purchaser (which seems to be the line the police were originally pursuing) when Abu Talb already had a stack of Maltese clothes he got from the factories.
Rolfe.
I think both conscious and unconscious prompting, suggestions and gestures would be inevitable during Gauci's interviews. I think a complex mix of being involved in major Worldwide incident, knowledge of financial rewards possible, contemplation of the enormity of their evidence, fearful of consequences, and intense expectation from authority, could also all have had a major influence on Gauci's recollection, statements and eventual evidence.
I'm sure he'd be well aware of the eagerness for the investigators for him to remember. If not, as has been suggested he was not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, I doubt the investigators would have any qualms in aiding and coercing in order to achieve, even if vaguely, a corroborating statement. Even unaware of 'Clever Hans', alas not even Tony would be ignorant of the gravity and consequences together with compensation available for his evidence. More -so when you're given 11 years to consider it. Nuances such rain, christmas lights and football games, could be changed again and again by Gauci, yet these inconsistencies were simply brushed aside by the investigators and judges.
Quite how anyone, let alone a court of law, could grant credibility to his evidence, given all these complexities and the lapses in recollection over the period, is jaw dropping.
Tying down a time line for the discovery, identification and evidence about the searching is also problematic. It does seem his first 'official' interview was late August '89. Here he mentions some items bought and provides a description for a sketch artist. This apparently suggests a resemblance to Abu Talb. And mentions rain and the Christmas lights.
I'm also pretty sure Megrahi didn't buy these clothes. There does seem to be some irregular stories around some of the items of clothing which were apparently discovered and those presented as evidence at the trial. Much like the 'timer fragment', there appears to be a veritable host of unexplained and unsatisfactory processes involved in recording and examination of some of the clothing. However, as it stands, I still feel the clothes wrapped around the bomb were bought from Mary's House.
I do also however, recognise that the fact the items that were sold were apparently inconsistent, therefore more memorable it was claimed. I would contend however It would appear this shop sold an assortment of items for a reason: they sold. Nine months after the fact, he may well have had some recollection of some of these items being sold – but to one specific individual whom he can identify and recall the entire purchase? Highly improbable. This could be where David Wrights evidence could be of crucial importance. Was it someone resembling Talb that Wright saw? Did he see someone leave the shop, at just before 7pm, raise an umbrella and hail a taxi on the 23rd?? It could quite easily have been 2, or 3 or even 4 different sales Gauci was recollecting all merging into one, he is very aware, very important sale.
The investigators seemingly were simply not interested eventually in Talb. Perhaps more importantly because the road to Talb also leads to Khreesat. And no one wants to go anywhere near Khreesat whatsoever.
The fact was at Zeist he ended up still not saying enough for the Judges to somehow find it rational without them declaring the absurd notion that someone who is unsure of an identity carries more reliability than that of someone who is absolute in their certainty!