Today's Mass Shooting

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Commentary on the media coverage of mass shootings by Jerry Coyne...


It's very common, from my observations of the GVA mass shooting list over the last several months, for most newspapers to not include a description of the perpetrators. Not surprising, really. What I did find surprising is the number of police departments that do this as well, it's the overwhelming majority. I can only assume it's for the same reason.
 
I would call myself a gun control advocate, but I would be perfectly happy with Swiss style gun regulation.


I think the worst thing about the situation in the US is not the ownership of guns, but the ability to legally carry them in daily life. The liberalization of concealed and/or open carry permits in the last few decades strikes me as insane.

The two guys in the video didn’t seen to understand that open carry in the US is all about loaded guns. Usually with a round in the ******* chamber,
 
The cops in the Florida Publix shooting are pointing fingers at the public, doing the "If only someone had contacted us about him" schtick. His family says they did, repeatedly, but the police say they have only one older record of contact. Even so, that contact told them he was schizophrenic and owned a gun. They seem to have looked upon it as a domestic issue.

He'd even been posting on Facebook that he wanted to kill people. What a mess.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/11/publix-shooting-killer-suffered-schizophrenia-ex-wifes-family-says/7654110002/
 
The cops in the Florida Publix shooting are pointing fingers at the public, doing the "If only someone had contacted us about him" schtick.

Yeah well he can stick that where the sun doesn't shine, because it's a repeatedly-demonstrated fact that unless someone very explicitly, in clinical detail, threatens deadly violence against a very specific person or place, the police won't do jack about them.

And calling the police on a mentally-ill person who at the moment isn't violent, is just calling the police to come put them down like a rabid dog. Also often demonstrated.
 
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That’s just another problem a good guy with a gun could fix if it wasn’t for the fascist libtards
 
1 dead, 3 wounded in Louisville, Kentucky shooting. No suspect description given.

https://apnews.com/article/ky-state-wire-kentucky-shootings-bfe71533a9d9e3d2befd087d7ee61904


In other Louisville news, there have been 90 homicides so far this year compared to 54 at this time last year.

But Breonna Taylor.

Maybe Louisville PD should spend more time clearing murder cases and less time kicking in doors on half-baked drug cases.

Louisville PD, according to their own reports, clears less than 50% of murder cases.

https://www.louisville-police.org/DocumentCenter/View/1695/Weekly-Homicide-Statistics
 
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Louisville PD, according to their own reports, clears less than 50% of murder cases.


Because in the culture of criminality, snitches get stitches or a bullet.

Recent data shows that since Shields became chief, both fatal and nonfatal shootings have increased and fewer homicide cases have been solved. Shields attributes it to the department being short-staffed, as well as a lack of cooperation from victims who fear they'll be retaliated against.

"These folks feel as though if they cooperate on a shooting that they weren't killed on, that they're certain to be killed. It puts us in a difficult space because as you know local law enforcement doesn't operate witness protection programs.”

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The Louisville Police Department lost nearly 190 police officers last year and continues to bleed available resources in an exodus that police leadership is referring to as “dire.”

Kentucky’s largest city lost 188 police officers due to retirement or resignation in 2020, while 43 officers have stepped away so far this year.

"I would say that we’re in dire straits," Louisville police union press secretary Dave Mutchler said. "Our manpower is critically low.”

Mutchler said a contributing factor to the loss of available manpower is that “the climate we currently find ourselves in” has negatively affected recruiting and the “the pool of people wanting to become officers is shrinking every day."

FTP, ACAB, Defund the police, abolish the police and abolish prisons is working wonders.
 
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Because in the culture of criminality, snitches get stitches or a bullet.



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FTP, ACAB, Defund the police, abolish the police and abolish prisons is working wonders.

Clearance rate was terrible prior to any of these incidents, and murder rates are up in large and small cities across the country, including those that have not meaningfully changed their police budgets or policy. The notion that BLM or defund the police is responsible is, simply put, right wingers engaging in mental masturbation. Surely you have some data to back up your assertion and are not just regurgitating right wing ****-posts?

Can you think of anything else that happened these last year or so that might have destabilized society? I dunno, maybe a global pandemic that abruptly upended people's lives and sent many into intense poverty?

Despite the "spike", violent crime remains near record lows. It's still very low, about the same as the last 20 years, and nowhere near the levels of the 80's and 90's.
 
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Clearance rate was terrible prior to any of these incidents, and murder rates are up in large and small cities across the country, including those that have not meaningfully changed their police budgets or policy. The notion that BLM or defund the police is responsible is, simply put, right wingers engaging in mental masturbation. Surely you have some data to back up your assertion and are not just regurgitating right wing ****-posts?

Can you think of anything else that happened these last year or so that might have destabilized society? I dunno, maybe a global pandemic that abruptly upended people's lives and sent many into intense poverty?

Despite the "spike", violent crime remains near record lows. It's still very low, about the same as the last 20 years, and nowhere near the levels of the 80's and 90's.

Snitches get stitches and FTP were around long before the pandemic.

The data you posted was from June of this year, the chief of police explained why, it is your choice to ignore it and lay the blame somewhere else because you think cops are racists.
 
Snitches get stitches and FTP were around long before the pandemic.

The data you posted was from June of this year, the chief of police explained why, it is your choice to ignore it and lay the blame somewhere else because you think cops are racists.

Police chief says says cause of crime is not giving cops enough money and unconditional support, what a shock.
 
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Police chief says says cause of crime is not giving cops enough money and unconditional support, what a shock.

You must have misread or misunderstood. She said neither of those things, she said it was because of a lack of staffing and a lack of cooperation from victims. You dismiss what she says and blame it on the pandemic which itself is left-wing mental masturbation.

Why is she wrong and where is your data to back it up?
 
You must have misread or misunderstood. She said neither of those things, she said it was because of a lack of staffing and a lack of cooperation from victims. You dismiss what she says and blame it on the pandemic which itself is left-wing mental masturbation.

Why is she wrong and where is your data to back it up?

Is there any evidence what she is saying is true?
 
Is there any evidence what she is saying is true?

I provided a link earlier with the police staffing information. Good luck finding stats from studies on victims refusing to cooperate with police, they're extremely hard to find but a simple Google search will give you an idea.

Here are some links to get you started:

From Wichita
Police: Lack of witness and victim cooperation hindering some investigations


From Chicago
Lack of cooperation stymies most shooting cases

More from Chicago
Just one in ten nonfatal shootings in Chicago lead to an arrest. Unlike in fatal cases, gunshot victims who survive can often provide information of use in the police investigation. Nonetheless, nonfatal shooting cases in Chicago and elsewhere have much lower arrest rates than fatal cases, in part because most victims do not cooperate. We use data from the Chicago Inmate Survey (CIS) to analyze the potential value that gunshot-victim cooperation could have for increasing arrest rates. Half of CIS respondents reported they had been shot before. Very few cooperated with police investigations of these shootings, although at least half of them could have provided useful information. In fact, victims were more likely to speak with the police when they did not have any information on their shooter. Respondents explained their choice not to cooperate by reference to “street codes” against snitching, mistrust of the police, and the desire to retaliate against the shooter personally. If more shooting victims could be persuaded to cooperate, the police could solve more cases and hence be more effective in curtailing gun violence.
 
I provided a link earlier with the police staffing information. Good luck finding stats from studies on victims refusing to cooperate with police, they're extremely hard to find but a simple Google search will give you an idea.

Here are some links to get you started:

From Wichita
Police: Lack of witness and victim cooperation hindering some investigations


From Chicago
Lack of cooperation stymies most shooting cases

More from Chicago

Do you think police murders, like Breonna Taylor's, make the community more or less inclined to cooperate with police?
 
I'm not sure I trust Bogative's motives, but he's calling attention to something that is both true and shameful in our society.

Black people being killed is just not a high priority in the US, unless a white person is involved. If you want to see the racism inherent in our society, that's it.
 
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