Today's Mass Shooting

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ahhell said:
With an operational main gun?
A bit like saying, "I don't understand why the law matters."
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Yes with an operational main gun.
It will be registered as a 'destructive device'

Here is Ian from Forgotten Weapos teaming up with the Chieftain to fire all the guns on a Sherman. It's privately owned. He has other bids where he is firing privately owned artillery

 
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That should have been 'weapons' and 'vids' of course. I was mashing the screen of a phone when I posted that.
 
It would be entirely within current case law for the federal government to require all gun owners to register their firearms and require a license to own a firearm. This would reduce the black market as guns would be more traceable.

Concurrently you could require background checks for all transfers and apply harsh penalties for those who transfer a weapon without a check and those who lie on the background check forms. The latter doesn't even require a change in law, just a change in enforcement and is backed by most guns rights advocates I know.

It also would not be against current precedent to require safe storage of all firearms which could severely limit access and theft.

Finally, there could be a federal concealed carry standard that could actually have some teeth. Many states have concealed carry licenses that are easier to get than a prize in the bottom of a box of cereal and some have no requirement for a license to carry concealed.

You don't have to change the 2A or even change the interpretation. You can do a lot pithing the current framework if you want to.

Instead we have a fear based political system where in a disaster Lindsey plans to hide with his AR-15 instead of helping in his community and we can't even imagine allowing the government to record who has and who hasn't received a Covid vaccine. That fear is what is driving us over the cliff.
 
There are other laws and international treaties that prevent private citizens from possessing nuclear weapons, so that's not a 2nd amendment case at all.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Mass shooting, as colloquially used, more often refers to rampage shootings rather than just any gun crime that has high bodycount.

The very first post in this thread was about a school shooting, not some parking lot shooting outside a seedy nightclub or gang related drive by.

The term "mass shooting" is an imprecise one, especially the way it is used in the media which are clearly referring to a very specific kind of "going postal" shooting, but that's the one often used in common parlance. Surely you are aware of this, I'm not sure why you're playing so easily into the "what about city gun violence" derail.
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well, because most of the gun violence in the United States is "city gun violence" and not "rampage shootings" or a "very specific kind of 'going postal' shootings" it doesn't make sense to restrict discussions about reducing gun violence to only a very specific and relatively uncommon subset of mass shootings.
 
CaptainHowdy said:
... it doesn't make sense to restrict discussions about reducing gun violence to only a very specific and relatively uncommon subset of mass shootings.
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Perhaps you might reread what I've been posting instead of this red herring that keeps getting fished out of the pond.

If you want to talk about any kind of shooter, fine, then talk about something more than how bad it is and bemoaning the gun problem. That was the point I was making.

And unrealistic solutions are not any more productive.

I posted some in depth reports on school shooters and workplace shooters. I discussed how schizophrenics are sometimes shooters but most schizophrenics are not. I suggested the family might have done something with more education about mental illness, when it looks dangerous and how a family then needs options besides calling the police who at the moment have a history of just shooting people like that down. The police and families need good options.

These things are actually achievable unlike any kind of major gun control. Background checks, sure. Limiting clip size, maybe. Beyond that, why bother discussing something that won't happen.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
I posted some in depth reports on school shooters and workplace shooters. I discussed how schizophrenics are sometimes shooters but most schizophrenics are not. I suggested the family might have done something with more education about mental illness, when it looks dangerous and how a family then needs options besides calling the police who at the moment have a history of just shooting people like that down. The police and families need good options.

These things are actually achievable unlike any kind of major gun control. Background checks, sure. Limiting clip size, maybe. Beyond that, why bother discussing something that won't happen.
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Interesting report here about how the majority (over 90%) of school shooters tell someone what they are planning to do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/crim...&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_national
 
Lauren Boebert tweeted

@laurenboebert
The Left’s gun control agenda will affect America’s women more than anyone else.

I’m a five foot tall, 100 pound woman. The only way I’m safe to walk around any dangerous liberal city is with an equalizer.

Gun control is anti-woman.

Democrats will never stop screeching about unconstitutional gun grabbing laws.

I've joined @RepThomasMassie to protect our 2nd Amendment by ensuring that at 18 not only can you serve your country in the Armed Forces, but also keep and bear arms at home too.
 
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6 dead in murder/suicide in Dallas, Texas.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/relatives-dead-apparent-murder-suicide-texas-home-76882880

Six people were found fatally shot in a suburban Dallas home early Monday after police say two brothers made a pact to kill four family members and themselves.

Sgt. Jon Felty said one of the two brothers wrote a lengthy post on social media in which he said he and his brother had a plan to kill their family members and then themselves. He also wrote that all of his decisions were based on weighing pros and cons, including the decision to kill his family.

In the post, he also spent “a lot of time” writing about his disappointment with how the television series “The Office" ended, Felty said. “He thought it should have ended much differently and he was upset...”
 
Matthew Best said:
6 dead in murder/suicide in Dallas, Texas.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/relatives-dead-apparent-murder-suicide-texas-home-76882880

Six people were found fatally shot in a suburban Dallas home early Monday after police say two brothers made a pact to kill four family members and themselves.

Sgt. Jon Felty said one of the two brothers wrote a lengthy post on social media in which he said he and his brother had a plan to kill their family members and then themselves. He also wrote that all of his decisions were based on weighing pros and cons, including the decision to kill his family.

In the post, he also spent “a lot of time” writing about his disappointment with how the television series “The Office" ended, Felty said. “He thought it should have ended much differently and he was upset...”
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But if a burglar had tried to get in, that burglar would not have gotten far. It's a good thing those guys had guns.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Lauren Boebert tweeted

@laurenboebert
The Left’s gun control agenda will affect America’s women more than anyone else.

I’m a five foot tall, 100 pound woman. The only way I’m safe to walk around any dangerous liberal city is with an equalizer.
Gun control is anti-woman.

Democrats will never stop screeching about unconstitutional gun grabbing laws.

I've joined @RepThomasMassie to protect our 2nd Amendment by ensuring that at 18 not only can you serve your country in the Armed Forces, but also keep and bear arms at home too.
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Millions of little old ladies have just put you to shame. They regularly walk the streets of "dangerous liberal cities" with nothing more for defence than a handbag and a good baseball swing. This is just a pathetic excuse to big-note yourself, not self-defence.

Also, what "dangerous liberal cities" are you referring to? Dallas? Houston? Deadwood?
 
William Parcher said:
He injured two, so it isn't a mass shooting.
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I do not object to including an incident in the "mass shooting" discussion when the circumstances of the incident suggest that the shooter's probable intent was to shoot as many people indiscriminately as possible, if it seems to be only a matter of incompetence, luck, or an exceptionally swift and effective police response that less than the threshold number of victims were injured.

But in this particular incident, I don't see that. The actual shooting took place off-base, yet the victims were both co-workers of the shooter. That suggests to me it was a targeted assault on those two specific victims, not an indiscriminate mass-shooting attempt.
 
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