Today's Mass Shooting

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Skeptic Ginger said:
The more I hear about this shooter's incessant threats and stalking, the more I wonder why it is people are so reluctant to address these guys before they shoot. There should have been a big red flag that went straight to the FBI and the local police when this guy bought that shotgun.

And there needs to be a way to make regular status checks on people like this.

But here again is another one that had all the warning signs and no one acted.

And by the way, if there's a guy harassing your workplace currently, get your bosses to do something to secure the building a little better. Every city building here requires one have a pass to get anywhere except to the front desk during business hours.
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I agree 100%. I believe stalking should be taken far more seriously than it currently is. I would propose legally-defined degrees of stalking, to distinguish between the love-struck lonely 12-year old who doesn't know better to the 30-year old mass-shooter-in-training. Stalking that includes threats of violence, direct personal contact, incessant/obsessive behavior etc. should be considered a felony with multi-year prison sentences. And anyone convicted of such stalking belongs on a register, just like pedophiles, with all their neighbors, employers, etc. informed of that fact. They are a danger to their community and people should be warned that even the most casual interaction with them may put yourself at grave risk.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
To call that 'denying one said something' is quite a stretch.

Of course she didn't.

Um, that. She's right.
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Like many of these arguments, someone is trying for the "Post Hoc ergo Propter Hoc" fallacy, but they don't even get the timeline right.

It's also worth noting that these latest protests began with Kirstjen (or however it's spelled) and Steve Miller, both in far louder manners Than Sanders was. But actually, Betsy Devos has faced protests before as well - and many people refused to attend Civil Rights Museum openings when Dolt 45 showed up as well. So this isn't really something that just began happening a week or two ago.
 
PhantomWolf said:
I'm actually kinda for the idea of going with the Founding Fathers original vision. It'd be interesting to see the reaction of a lot of the 2nd Amendment people when they realised that by owning a gun they were volunteering to not only become part of the US Military, but that in doing so they were going to be responsible for buying and maintaining all of the gear that they would use while deployed to whatever corner of the Earth the Government was sending them off to fight.

Think of the saving in taxpayer money, it'd be win win.
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Best. Idea. Ever.
 
lobosrul5 said:
You have the wrong war. Germany wanted the Model 1897 banned during WW1, when Hitler was just a corporal and there was no Nazi party. It was of course, rather absurd to request shotguns be banned when poison gas was in use.
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Under the prohibition of expanding ammunition uncoated lead buckshot were arguably illegal. Hence the copper washed pellets used in military ammunition in WW1.
 
catsmate said:
Under the prohibition of expanding ammunition uncoated lead buckshot were arguably illegal. Hence the copper washed pellets used in military ammunition in WW1.
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A copper washed coating is very thin and does nothing to prevent expansion or deformation. It is used for its lubrication properties. You might be thinking of the thicker copper jackets used on other types of ammo. Even then some copper jacketed ammo is intended to expand such as hollow point and soft point.
 
catsmate said:
Under the prohibition of expanding ammunition uncoated lead buckshot were arguably illegal. Hence the copper washed pellets used in military ammunition in WW1.
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So basic lead ball ammo was and is illegal?

Back on more of a topic, at least he had ties to other terrorists with his like of the alt right.

https://www.salon.com/2018/06/30/exclusive-accused-annapolis-shooter-had-deep-dark-links-to-the-alt-right/

"When the identity of the apparent gunman in the massacre of five journalists in Annapolis, Maryland, was revealed, Jonathan Hutson, a communications consultant and writer who lives nearby, had a shock of recognition. The suspect, Jarrod Ramos, had contacted Hutson in March 2015, taunting him about his role in alerting law enforcement and thwarting a potential mass killer who threatened schoolchildren and Jews in far-away Montana."
 
Since pretty much the entire USA agrees it would be best that gangs, criminals, violent people and the mentally deranged should not have guns, but cannot work together to stop such easy access, does arguing about calibres and types of gun have a point to it?
 
Members of the well regulated militia shoot at each other in a car park and only one survives

"Man fatally shot during argument fired first shot, killing bystander.

Authorities with the Seminole County Sheriff's Office identified the shooter Monday as Jorge Vega-Rosado, 26, of Orange City, and said he was acting in self-defense when he killed Brown. Deputies said Brown first pulled a gun on Vega-Rosado and fired a shot, missing Vega-Rosado and hitting Strada, an innocent bystander at a nearby restaurant."

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/i...ng-plaza-dies-becoming-2nd-victim-family-says
 
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