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A Uvalde mother claims that cops have threatened her with retaliatory arrest should she talk to the press:

A mother who ran into Robb Elementary School to rescue her two children during a mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, last week says police threatened to violate her probation for speaking about the incident to reporters.

Angeli Gomez told CBS News on Thursday that she was forced to rush into the school after watching police fail to quickly respond to the deadly shooting. A total of 19 students and two teachers were killed when 18-year-old gunman Salvador Ramos entered the school and opened fire.

After speaking critically about the incident to media outlets, Gomez said an officer threatened to charge her for violating probation on an unrelated charge for "obstruction of justice." However, she added that she spoke to a local judge who assured her that she was "brave" and that she would not face legal repercussions for sharing her story.

Her account comes amid a flurry of similar reports from parents and relatives who said they were on-site during the devastating massacre and watched as police failed to intervene.
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https://www.newsweek.com/uvalde-mom-who-saved-kids-school-shooting-says-police-threatened-her-1712842

Pigs gonna pig.

She should be very worried what is going to happen to her once the media spotlight is off the town. The cops will not soon forget.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
A Uvalde mother claims that cops have threatened her with retaliatory arrest should she talk to the press:



https://www.newsweek.com/uvalde-mom-who-saved-kids-school-shooting-says-police-threatened-her-1712842

Pigs gonna pig.

She should be very worried what is going to happen to her once the media spotlight is off the town. The cops will not soon forget.
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Uhh, maybe she should just focus on not winding up on probation again? Just because she is happy to shout about the cops doesn't mean she is excused from it and the terms associated.

I'm sure every time she gets a ticket from now until the end of time, she will blame the evil cops for targeting her. Like what do you figure, evil cop hit squad will target her for extermination once the spotlight is off? :rolleyes:
 
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Thermal said:
But not a single poster is moved to the slightest comment. Why do you suppose that posters here are indifferent to such a horrific crime? Recall the recent black man who opened fire on a Brooklyn subway. Again, no one has much to say, just a little skirting around the edges.
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Yeah, everyone. Thermal, Warp12, and Bogative are the ones who actually care about PoC.

I clipped most of the bull **** but here's the deal. How many people died in the Brooklyn subway shooting? Anyone? Anyone at all? The guy was caught relatively quickly, alive, and the story moved along pretty fast. What in the **** did you want to discuss once it was all said and done? Which took, what? A few hours? I remember it being discussed in real-time on this forum.

You guys have said it repeatedly, black-on-black crime, inner city shootings, etc. are common gun violence. That doesn't mean any of us here are unaware of it, or are fine with it, or any of that. Just implying that's the case is ******* stupid. The reason school shootings (or spree shootings) get more attention is because there is generally more to them. Take the Buffalo shooting where he had a discord channel, the manifesto, etc. Do those happen during regular street violence? Is there as much to even discuss? The reason every day street violence doesn't get as much conversation is because we've got fairly good ideas as to why they happen. As the adamant BLM supporter that you are I figured you'd already have a pretty good understanding of them yourself. Poverty, systemic racism, lack of true social safety net, etc. The conversations have been done. The only reason "some people" keep bringing them up is to distract and throw out the whatabout PoC tho?!
 
Warp12 said:
Uhh, maybe she should just focus on not winding up on probation again? Just because she is happy to shout about the cops doesn't mean she is excused from it and the terms associated.

I'm sure every time she gets a ticket from now until the end of time, she will blame the evil cops for targeting her. Like what do you figure, evil cop hit squad will target her for extermination once the spotlight is off? :rolleyes:
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Jesus Christ. Yes, because killing her would be the only way for them to make her life suck. Why do you do this **** all the time? Do you think it's tough to see through?

What she should focus on is what she did focus on, saving her kid from a school shooter because the cops were too chicken **** scared, pissing their pants to go in and man-up to do it themselves.
 
plague311 said:
I clipped most of the bull **** but here's the deal. How many people died in the Brooklyn subway shooting? Anyone?
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I keep seeing this sort of laughable commentary. "Look, this mass shooter had bad aim, so the actions aren't as significant/notable."

This idea must have been floated 10x in this thread, in various flavors, for various incidents. In fact, it is still being floated here whenever there is a shooting where only 1 or 2 die, but like 15 are injured. And those incidents are frighteningly common in comparison to spree shootings.

Amazing.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
She should be very worried what is going to happen to her once the media spotlight is off the town. The cops will not soon forget.
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plague311 said:
Jesus Christ. Yes, because killing her would be the only way for them to make her life suck. Why do you do this **** all the time? Do you think it's tough to see through?
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You come to a thread about mass shootings, but have to endure conjecture about evil cops targeting civilians and ruining people's lives after the fact. It is ridiculous.
 
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Warp12 said:
You come to a thread about mass shootings, but have to endure conjecture about evil cops targeting civilians and ruining people's lives after the fact. It is ridiculous.
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I have an idea, stay with me now...just don't come to the ******* thread then. BAM! Fixed.

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. Do you think that killing her is the only means to ruin her life? If they are threatening to violate her probation then that isn't conjecture. It also sounds like something cops would do because coming up with a probation violation is pretty easy. I know this from being on probation for 4 years.
 
Warp12 said:
You come to a thread about mass shootings, but have to endure conjecture about evil cops targeting civilians and ruining people's lives after the fact. It is ridiculous.
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In fairness, it's not only conjecture about evil cops targeting civilians. There's also observations about cowardly cops who failed to do their jobs and let children get slaughtered.
 
This country has a Black problem disguised as a mental illness problem disguised as a gun problem. Relatedly, I don't have a podcast paying tens of millions a year for this kind of quality insight.
 
johnny karate said:
In fairness, it's not only conjecture about evil cops targeting civilians. There's also observations about cowardly cops who failed to do their jobs and let children get slaughtered.
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It isn't conjecture, they threatened to violate her probation with s trumped up 'obstructing justice' charge because she spoke to the press.

These are cops that let children die in front of them rather than taking action, handcuffed a parent at the scene then refused to cooperate with the inquiry.
Why is it hard to believe they are evil?
 
Cain said:
This country has a Black problem disguised as a mental illness problem disguised as a gun problem. Relatedly, I don't have a podcast paying tens of millions a year for this kind of quality insight.
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If you think about it, if there were no victims, there would be no criminals.
 
I actually agree with Bogative, Warp12 and Thermal that is it shocking that racism is so institutionalized in the US that mass shooting with mainly black victims are completely ignored in mainstream media, combined with the fact that the police force has pretty much turned into another violent gang when dealing with people of color so that they also cannot seek protection there.
 
For the record, my proposed solution would be to actively work at desegregating neighborhoods, ensuring a good social security network to to reduce poverty, ensure a nationwide set of school taxes distributed based upon the number of students in a school, a complete re-form of the police to stamp out the racism there, ensuring fair laws to stop the disproportional punishment of people of color, a ban on assault weapons and a gun control law similar to the ones in the rest of the world.

A pipe dream of course, because the US is a special snowflake nation that can never change it's ways for reasons.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
It isn't conjecture, they threatened to violate her probation with s trumped up 'obstructing justice' charge because she spoke to the press.

These are cops that let children die in front of them rather than taking action, handcuffed a parent at the scene then refused to cooperate with the inquiry.
Why is it hard to believe they are evil?
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Fair enough, and I'm certainly disagreeing with you. I just wanted Warp12 to know that the conversation isn't limited to how evil these cops are, but also how cowardly and ineffectual that are, too.
 
cmikes said:
I'm reminded of George Zimmerman. When the narrative was to try to portray a guy who tutored black kids as a seething racist, he was transformed from an Hispanic to the rarely seen, extremely dangerous "White Hispanic" category.
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“Rarely seen”?
You haven’t filled out a census in the last forty years?
Never even perused any articles about demographics in Europe or the Americas?

The terms “Hispanic, white,” and “Hispanic, black “ have been very common for at least forty years.
 
Bogative said:
As promised, I'm back with receipts. Hold onto your socks, they're about to get knocked off.

Since the Uvalde shooting nearly 2 weeks ago, I've noticed a lot of MSM using an organization called "Education Week" as a source of school shootings in the US, they keep a running count of all shootings at US schools. If their information is good enough for WaPo, NPR, NBC News, The Hill, etc. it's good enough for me. They list every school shooting and do not use some hocus-pocus formulation to skew the numbers to fit a particular narrative.

Of the 27 shootings at US schools this year, 16 of them have publicly available identifying information of the known shooters. Here's a breakdown:

14 black males
8 Latino males.
1 Asian male.
11 shootings have no suspect description, currently. A lot of these are because courts and law enforcement do not release information about juveniles.
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LoL this is awesome. So now you've moved on to being completely disingenuous when I was making a clear point?

What you listed here isn't mass shootings, or at least not JUST mass shootings. You've also chosen to pick a specific time frame, rather than including the several others.

What you've shown here is that there are shootings on school property where people of all ethnicities are represented. I was clearly talking about mass shootings\murders, as other have said, where the schools were targeted.

You knew that, Warp12 knew that, but you guys have to distract with this type of nonsense because it's the only way you can toss your racism front and center. Which is fine as we saw when you did it, everyone here called it out. It's ******* pathetic you even tried it.

Here, maybe this will help.

Between 1982 and June 2022, 68 out of the 129 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by white shooters. By comparison, the perpetrator was African American in 21 mass shootings, and Latino in 11. When calculated as percentages, this amounts to 53 percent, 16 percent, and 8.5 percent respectively.
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I'm kidding, it won't help at all. You'll be back with some other ****-ery and it will be equally as hilarious.

ETA: While those aren't JUST school mass shootings, it proves the same point. I'll take some more time and see if I can track down specifically school shootings where 3 or more people are killed to break them down by race.
 
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plague311 said:
I'm kidding, it won't help at all. You'll be back with some other ****-ery and it will be equally as hilarious.
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The hilarious part is you quoting a source that represents that there were only 129 mass shootings in the US over a 40-year span. I feel like you have missed a whole lot of posts in this thread; including the ones about that laughable stat.
 
Warp12 said:
The hilarious part is you quoting a source that represents that there were only 129 mass shootings in the US over a 40-year span. I feel like you have missed a whole lot of posts in this thread; including the ones about that laughable stat.
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Is that it? There were "only" 129 mass shootings?

I haven't said **** all about how many there are, I was commenting on the fact that, when there are school mass shootings, they are done by white men more frequently than others.

By the way, quit telling me what makes you laugh like I give a **** at all. I don't care. If you think something is funny that usually means it's factually relevant and a solid statistic and doesn't have something racist in it. Seriously.
 
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