to the CTists: Do it already!

[Pardalis]

One thing that bugs me the most about those CTist imbeciles is that they are asking for an "international" investigation, whatever that means, but yet they're not doing anything to start it.

Who are they asking ? The Bush administration? Are they waiting for their permission or something?

What exactly are they waiting for?

What actual steps have they really undertaken to start another investigation?

Will they be satisfied with the results of the new one?

How is this investigation going to be done? Who will take part in it? How will we know it's legitimate?

My guess is that they really just like to ask questions, and they don't want the answers. They know a new investigation will end up pretty much with the same conclusions as the 9/11 Commission. They are happy with just asking questions, stemming doubt in the general population, creating dissent from utter lies and fabrications, manipulating the facts without being reprimented by the real experts. It's a nice status quo. They like to doubt, doubt is fun. Real research is not, real science and real facts aren't cool. It's like a pseudo scientist, why would he want his work peer-reviewed when he knows he's full of *****. I think the Deniers are afraid of the real experts, of the real story being true.

Sorry, I just had to vent...

 

[DavidJames]

They are not shy about claiming inside job, surely there has to be a lawyer out there willing to take this pro-bono, civil lawsuit, class action? Why haven't any of them tried to press charges? Why rant on Internet forums when you could be bringing the perps to justice? Rhetorical questions of course.

 

[T.A.M.]

Pardalis:

Forget them man...I decided to. I am officially done with the CTers. I am going to continue to research 9/11, and to post the "Real" Truth for the fence sitters and those who are searching, but as for arguing with the nutbars...I am done. It is a waste of my time, and I am tired of wheel spinning.

TAM

 

[Bell]

Wasn't there a troofer lawyer in that Penn & Teller episode ?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

 

[Pardalis]

I am officially done with the CTers.

Hope you're not done with coming here, your contributions are always great to read!

 

[T.A.M.]

No I am far from done here. I am making it my mission to collect as much info I can for those who need to read it. I am going to be here for the olivers and einsteens, to see if we can help them see the "real" truth.

You can't convince the hardcore guys, and they just turn me into an angry person, which is not who I really am.

TAM

 

[Pardalis]

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers?

Yeah but who is asking for them? Do you expect the authorities to hand all this information to a bunch of paranoid loonies (the "Trooot Movement")?

To you maybe? Mr. Joe Blow from behind his computer desk who knows nothing about engeneering and physics?

 

[DavidJames]

...They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about providing a link to that law.

This is a perfect example of the ball-less CT crowd. You claim a federal law was broken, yet no one is attempting to follow up, tell me scrotum-less, why is that?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

so your evidence of an inside comes from the fact that the govt doesnt release all the evidence they have

can you cite any previous investigation, govt or otherwise, that released every scrap of evidence to the public? can you cite any precedent that might show the govts actions in this case as being unusual? do you have any evidence the govt is deliberately trying to hide something?

you have never denied your involvement in the events of 9/11, nor provided any evidence that you were not involved, what are you trying to hide?

 

[greyleonard]

Pardalis:

Forget them man...I decided to. I am officially done with the CTers. I am going to continue to research 9/11, and to post the "Real" Truth for the fence sitters and those who are searching, but as for arguing with the nutbars...I am done. It is a waste of my time, and I am tired of wheel spinning.

TAM

I think I may have witnessed the straw falling onto the camel's back.
That's what you get for inventing imaginary complications.

 

[Abbyas]

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts?

Let me just jump in with this one. There is a reason that you haven't heard those phone calls. It's the same reason why you haven't seen the pictures of the recently dead bodies of Nicole Simpson and Ron Brown.

 

[T.A.M.]

I think I may have witnessed the straw falling onto the camel's back.
That's what you get for inventing imaginary complications.

if you are petgoat at DU, than like I said, i am done. I did not invent "imaginary" complications. You may have seen it that way. Believe what you want, it won't change anything.

If you are not, than oh well. I am just tired of beating my head off the brick wall with people that do not use Logic and Solid Evidence to explain things...so I will just continue to make the info available to those who seek it, so that wingnuts don't get their slimy hands into them without someone there to help remove the talons.

TAM

 

[twinstead]

Recordings of the phone calls? Sure, trutherdude, all you have to do is hear those and you'll drop your theory and realize you were wrong. NOT.

You'll just claim they're faked. Geeze even now you are inferring that everybody who received phone calls from the planes is either lying or too dense to tell their loved one's voice was faked; you'll either claim the recordings are faked or simply ignore them.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have

What would that change? You haven't even looked at the 4 or 5 mountains of evidence that are already out there?

You aren't a skeptical inquirer, you're an entrenched religious fanatic. The only evidence out there is stuff you haven't issued a fatwa against yet.

 

[gnome]

Actually, it doesn't change the point... if you want the government to release some evidence, try filing a FOIA request. Yelling at them in the blogosphere just doesn't have the same effect.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Recordings of the phone calls? Sure, trutherdude, all you have to do is hear those and you'll drop your theory and realize you were wrong. NOT.

You'll just claim they're faked. Geeze even now you are inferring that everybody who received phone calls from the planes is either lying or too dense to tell their loved one's voice was faked; you'll either claim the recordings are faked or simply ignore them.

exactly, the "lack of evidence released by the govt" thing is just a red herring, if they govt released all their materials they CT crowd would still claim its faked

for example, they claim theres no evidence of a 757 at the pentagon, we show them pictures of debris, they claim it was planted, we point out that some of the debris (engine casing, landing gear strut) is quite heavy and could not be easily planted, they claim its not as big as it seems and was photographed in miniature (yes, ive been told this before)

black boxes, they claim its suspicious no black boxes were found at the WTC, they also claim the black box data from flight 77 and flight 93 was faked

they claim no bodies were found at the WTC, they claim the autopsy data from 93 and 77 was fake

i could go on and on

 

[Bell]

exactly, the "lack of evidence released by the govt" thing is just a red herring, if they govt released all their materials they CT crowd would still claim its faked

for example, they claim theres no evidence of a 757 at the pentagon, we show them pictures of debris, they claim it was planted, we point out that some of the debris (engine casing, landing gear strut) is quite heavy and could not be easily planted, they claim its not as big as it seems and was photographed in miniature (yes, ive been told this before)

black boxes, they claim its suspicious no black boxes were found at the WTC, they also claim the black box data from flight 77 and flight 93 was faked

they claim no bodies were found at the WTC, they claim the autopsy data from 93 and 77 was fake

i could go on and on

 

[greyleonard]

if you are petgoat at DU, than like I said, i am done.

No, I'm not petgoat. I give you a pat on the back for not jumping to the conclusion that I'm greyl at DU just because my name here is greyleonard.

 

[T.A.M.]

greyleonard:

if you are greyl at DU, then I think your post was in sarcasm then, as I remember greyl being the thorn in their CT side over there.

TAM