To 9/11 TM: WTC7 being a CD is illogical.

If it takes weeks to set-up something that could have knocked wtc-7 down then how according to the official version did it fall down in one day just like a cd? Doesn't the claim that it takes weeks to place explosives to knock down a building work against the theory that all the stars were aligned on 9-11 where a bunch of buildings completely fell down just like a cd without any of that preparation?

A possible motive could be the WTC-7 was meant to have fallen down in the morning with the rest of the buildings but something went wrong and it took longer. For instance maybe it was a dud or a third plane never made it.

Then there is always the CT that wtc-7 was where the 9-11 operation was run from so it was destroyed when the mission was complete.
 
If it takes weeks to set-up something that could have knocked wtc-7 down then how according to the official version did it fall down in one day just like a cd? Doesn't the claim that it takes weeks to place explosives to knock down a building work against the theory that all the stars were aligned on 9-11 where a bunch of buildings completely fell down just like a cd without any of that preparation?

A possible motive could be the WTC-7 was meant to have fallen down in the morning with the rest of the buildings but something went wrong and it took longer. For instance maybe it was a dud or a third plane never made it.

Then there is always the CT that wtc-7 was where the 9-11 operation was run from so it was destroyed when the mission was complete.

Well you could take a week or so to wire up an undamaged building for a controlled demolition.

Or you could throw some really big bits of steel at it and cause some fires to burn uncontrolled for about 7 hours and have it collapse into a mess.

I suspect that you want something in between. You know, a bit of damage and fire from the towers collapse, and a helping hand from the demolition charges, yes?

So, how much of a helping hand did the damaged wtc7 need? and WHY? and HOW?
 
If it takes weeks to set-up something that could have knocked wtc-7 down then how according to the official version did it fall down in one day just like a cd? Doesn't the claim that it takes weeks to place explosives to knock down a building work against the theory that all the stars were aligned on 9-11 where a bunch of buildings completely fell down just like a cd without any of that preparation?

A possible motive could be the WTC-7 was meant to have fallen down in the morning with the rest of the buildings but something went wrong and it took longer. For instance maybe it was a dud or a third plane never made it.

Then there is always the CT that wtc-7 was where the 9-11 operation was run from so it was destroyed when the mission was complete.
How did the charges last so long in the fires? Why no loud noises? (yes I've been to a few CD's and I do know how loud and unforgettable they are)
 
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ahhhh the magical therm(?)te....

apparently it can also cure acne and embarrassment in front of girls....if used correctly
 
If it takes weeks to set-up something that could have knocked wtc-7 down then how according to the official version did it fall down in one day just like a cd? Doesn't the claim that it takes weeks to place explosives to knock down a building work against the theory that all the stars were aligned on 9-11 where a bunch of buildings completely fell down just like a cd without any of that preparation?

CD companies around the globe are currently working on ways to eliminate explosives from future projects and are instead turning to the less costly and time-consuming method of "dropping large chunks of buildings twice their size on them."

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Round and round we go, you had best not ask DC about the correct method of using thermite for cutting columns, his example involved each theoretical device being the size of a small truck attached to each column, when scaled up.
You would have thought someone might have noticed the installation of such devices?
 
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ahhhh the magical therm(?)te....

apparently it can also cure acne and embarrassment in front of girls....if used correctly

I think it has already been decided by most official version believers that the buildings could have fallen down by something other then cd charges correct? So what if they used something else?
 
I thought the main ct was thermite?
Therm?te is the most moronic claim out there. Dr Jones made that up because he's smart enough to know that cutting charges make a hell of a noise. The "truth" movement is gullible enough to eat it up. Are you that gullible?
 
I think it has already been decided by most official version believers that the buildings could have fallen down by something other then cd charges correct? So what if they used something else?

Like thermite? Let's find out:




That answer is...






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OOOOOOOH!! I'm very sorry. :(
 
CD companies around the globe are currently working on ways to eliminate explosives from future projects and are instead turning to the less costly and time-consuming method of "dropping large chunks of buildings twice their size on them."

It was already decided by some that the buildings fell from something other the explosives before there was any evidence of a large chunk of building and a ten story gash emerged. It's not in the fema investigation. So how many different things besides explosives can completely take down a building in a few hours? Would hitting most building near the top with a chunk of something normally work in bringing a building straight down? How about a wrecking ball to one side?
 
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Round and round we go, you had best not ask DC about the correct method of using thermite for cutting columns, his example involved each theoretical device being the size of a small truck attached to each column, when scaled up.
You would have thought someone might have noticed the installation of such devices?

and was it correctly scaled up? or did the one calculating it, assume a massive column of 3 x 3?
 
A possible motive could be the WTC-7 was meant to have fallen down in the morning with the rest of the buildings but something went wrong and it took longer. For instance maybe it was a dud or a third plane never made it.

Of course it is possible as it is also possible that little great men with laser beams were inside each towers and decided fool the entire planet with their super duper holographic plane projector. Then decided it would be a wiz to deploy space beams in order to bring down each tower apart from WTC 7 which they used their personal lasers on. Of course there is zero evidence to support this possibility. Got any to support your possibility?


Then there is always the CT that wtc-7 was where the 9-11 operation was run from so it was destroyed when the mission was complete.
See above and also see the OP post. Try to address the OP and maybe stop trying to introduce in trashy James Bond plots, it helps if you have something based remotely in reality when you post.

Before you or anybody else decides to derail this thread any further, here is the OP, again. This is what this thread is about, not your groundless day dreams.

WTC7 is the main reason why people believe 9/11 was an inside job, referring to it as the “smoking gun of 9/11”. They believe it was a controlled demolition because it looked like one (I also thought this).

Nonetheless, there is no hard evidence yet that WTC7 was a CD. There is only the fact that it looked like one (plus added speculation to help bolster this viewpoint). Yes, I still contend WTC7 looked like a CD…but does this mean it really was one?

The answer is no because logically it could not have been. Here's why.

#1. If WTC7 was a CD, it had to have been setup well beforehand, since a CD takes a minimum of weeks to prepare.

Interestingly, CD expert Danny Jowenko stated it might have been possible for a team of experts to have quickly prepped the building for CD the day of 9/11. Yet when he was then told that WTC7 had been on fire all that day, he went silent in bewilderment, for he then believed the building could not have been setup that day, realizing it had to be a CD setup beforehand (and all the implications that thought entailed). All the same, Danny Jowenko based his thinking on the fact that it looked like a CD, which it did. But just because it looked like one does not mean it was, and with that said, there are other CD experts who do not believe it was.

#2. If WTC7 was a CD, then supposedly unknown criminals planned and executed it “stealthily” under/inside the “cover story” of 9/11.

I.e., they planned to couch it inside the events of 9/11, which means our hypothetical perpetrators had to have known ahead of time that:

…….(a) airplanes crashing into the towers would cause them later to collapse, and thereby

…….(b) damage WTC7 sufficiently so it too would collapse and look as if it was a result of fire and debris damage (and not to be considered a CD, which our hypothetical perpetrators planned ahead of time to carry out with cunning deception).

So, if WTC7 was a CD, both #1 and #2 must be true and dependent upon (a) and (b).

However, how could anyone know for sure in advance that crashing airplanes into the towers would result in…….

…….#3 the towers being damaged so severely (by fire and structural failure) that they would collapse so that…….

…….#4 WTC7 would also be so severely damaged by debris from the fallen towers so as to result in its later collapse (by fire and structural failure)?

For the above to be true, our hypothetical perpetrators would had to have known the future in advance detail, which is not possible.

In addition, to argue our perps could have known ahead of time because they were "manipulating" Al Qaeda in some way {LIHOP and/or "privy to their plans"} is also untenable because this too is dependent upon knowing for sure that #3, collapse of the towers, would occur and also cause sufficient damage to WTC7 to provide the plausible explanation needed for #4. This is at the heart of why it could not be a CD.

For it to have been controlled demolition means our hypothetical perpetrators would have known their plan was dependent upon #3 and #4 taking place, but these were not givens. One might argue they could have ensured #3 happening (i.e., destroy the towers by CD “also”), but no one could possibly have known the extent of #4 (ensuing damage to WTC7 from the collapsing towers) that would be needed to take place sufficiently for their “cover story”. Therefore, "they" would have known "their plan" was severely flawed from the beginning and would not have carried it out; thus "their plan" would have become "non-existent", and this is why "they are non-existent".

There is no crystal ball, and there was no supposed plan to bring WTC7 down by CD. To think otherwise beggars the imagination, and the plausibility of WTC7 being a CD makes no sense logically.

Think about it.
Your thoughts are welcome.
I have bolded for you, a request from the OPer, who happens to be part of the truth movement. Have you got any thoughts on the OP? Any at all ?
 
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It was already decided by some that the buildings fell from something other the explosives before there was any evidence of a large chunk of building and a ten story gash emerged. It's not in the fema investigation. So how many different things besides explosives can completely take down a building in a few hours? Would hitting most building near the top with a chunk of something normally work in bringing a building straight down? How about a wrecking ball to one side?

How about unicorns? Everyone always forgets about the unicorns because they're so cute, not taking into account the rogue faction who are hell-bent on plunging the world into darkness.

And trust me, it's every bit as sound a theory as thermite.
 
yes, Joerg


Ah, that would be Joerg Schneider. Here is my e-mail exchange with him from December of 2006:
[SIZE=-1]Dear Professor Schneider,[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]You and Professor Bachmann are often cited by conspiracists who contend, against all evidence, that the World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. As you know, every demolition expert and structural engineer in America rejects this thesis as baseless and insupportable.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]Matthys Levy, author of the book 'Why Buildings Fall Down,' was shocked to learn that conspiracists were distorting his words to make it appear as though he shared their fantasies. Are you aware of the claims made on your behalf? Do you really endorse a pernicious and unscientific view that ignores mountains of contradictory data?[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]Please be good enough to clarify this matter.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]Yours Truly,[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]Ronald Wieck[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=-1]Hello,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]I said that Building WTC7 was most probably brought down by controlled demolition. I do not believe that this is a possibility for the two towers. I do neither know Mr. Levy nor his book.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Best regards[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]J. Schneider[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]So, you agree with Prof. Schneider about the Twin Towers? No? You say he doesn't know what he's talking about? Please, tell us more.[/SIZE]


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