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Time Travel Chronicles

Edy_P

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World Breaking Discoveries

The PAST
Throughout history encounters with divine beings such as ‘gods, Angels, or God’ have been reported in myths and legends and often subsequently documented in (what are now perceived as) religious texts.

The characters in those religious stories or the ‘prophet’/author who had the encounter with the ‘gods, Angels, or God’ report what the ‘divine messenger(s)’ showed and told them – and often a new religion evolved, warning that the earlier religions are ‘wrong’.

Going away from the religious idea, some second-hand accounts retell the stories but often replace the concept of God or Angels with an Oracle of God that spoke, shown, and told them of things of the future – but only when the priest or prophet asked or used a special staff or rod. (cf. Crystal ball or magic mirror, magic circles or wheels, and magic wand.) These types of accounts are the classical ones that are perceived as legends and myths – rather than religious.

Many encounters throughout ancient times are reported and documented, but each had the same type of characteristics: The ‘gods, Angels (often two), or God’ appeared to them ‘in a dream’ or in a bright light, on or near a mountain, and either provided a set of tablets/stones/plates which showed ‘future history and images’ or had the ‘prophet’ use them himself. Those ‘gods, Angels, or God’ were in effect – time messengers. They particularly named several ‘future people’ who will ‘open the sealed plates/books’.

For over three thousand years the actual occurrences from the stories concerning those ‘future historic events and images’ have been awaited, but to date no-one has identified them to ‘present’ events – although many have tried to make their contemporary similar events match to those religiously described ‘future events’. Some have even ‘amended’ the contents of the ancient texts to make it seem that they have matched the foretold events – and produced sub-cults and other types of religious groups.

So everyone is waiting upon what the religious priests have told them – but they are waiting for the wrong things.

What were the set of tablets/stones/plates/ magic circles ?
To what did the Oracle, magic mirror, and magic wand refer ?
Who were the reported Angels (ie. time messengers) ?
When are the ‘future things’ to occur ?
What are the ‘future events’ ?


The PRESENT
An unknown researcher makes a series of observations:
  • When the corrupted English translation and interpretation of ancient texts (both secular and religious) are returned to their original meanings – a different story is revealed.
  • Some contents of a modern history book concerning one particular war are described in the ancient texts – almost word by word.
  • The imagery from three compact disks are described in those same ancient texts: 1. a certain war, 2. a specific astronomical event, 3. a series of animal images.
  • An Oracle, magic mirror, and magic wand refer to a computer, its monitor, and its mouse & cable.
  • The set of tablets/stones/plates/ magic circles refer to the compact disks.
  • The ‘gods, Angels, or God’ are not of a divine origin nor nature.
  • When ‘unknown origin’ Egyptian hieroglyphs are investigated, they are found to be describing and depicting modern computer technology – and two ‘time messengers’.
  • When ‘religious perceptions’ are removed from those same ancient texts and the list of ‘Religious Signs’ are taken literally, the named ‘future people’ and ‘future events’ were identified to recent events by those named people.
  • The warnings given by the perceived ‘gods, Angels, or God’ (ie. time messengers) in ancient times have been revealed.
Religions face their judgement day – the source of their beliefs are shown not to be of a divine origin.

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The FUTURE
A time machine is constructed – it works.
Rule 1. When travelling to the past, do not make any changes that will affect the present.

First experiment:
Crew: Two chrononauts (dressed in white lab coats);
Equipment: Desk-top computer in carry box, plus historical compact disks and history books;
Purpose: 1. see if non-organic equipment survives the ‘back-step’ and operates; 2. ‘show & tell’ of future for a group of Middle Eastern people.
Location: 2500 BCE, Mesopotamia. Site chosen as history on compact disk does not relate to Mesopotamia, thus anyone back then would not be affected by ‘future history and events’.

Second Experiment:
Crew: Two chrononauts (dressed in white lab coats);
Equipment: Desk-top computer in carry box, plus historical compact disks and history books;
Purpose: 1. check out progress of Pyramid building; 2. ‘show & tell’ to certain people.
Location: 1450BCE, Egypt.

The United Nations Science Group stops these back-steps’ by the Time Travel Agency as evidence of those encounters have been found documented in ancient texts:
The two chronauts, the computer parts and its carry box, the compact disks plus the mouse & cable have been depicted in Egyptian hieroglyphs and documented in legends.
Two of the compact disks have been expressly named in Mesopotamian myths and their contents described.
Two separate monotheistic religions by two Egyptian priests who encountered the chronauts and computer imagery were formed:
1. Amenhotep IV formed the Aten religion in Egypt – based upon the shape of a compact disk and its contents;
2. Moses formed the Hebrew religion – based upon the contents of three cd-roms.

How to correct this accidental formation of religions
The Time Travel Agency visited many other ancient people to specifically correct this mistake by showing them the same cd-roms and explaining the error of misunderstanding. But this too resulted in more religions, as those ancient people also misunderstood what they were being told.

The United Nations Science Group stops these back-steps as it just keeps producing similar ‘religious’ mistakes, and introduces a new strategy.
Rule 27: The past can not be changed as it will change our present. Revisit all earlier back-step locations and place markers so that at a certain ‘future’ time at least two people (witnesses if you wish) will find these mistakes and inform the world. In this way the past mistakes can be changed without changing the past and present. The future will then proceed without the influence of those mistakenly formed religions.
Rule 32: ‘Time View’ and observe the two ‘witnesses’ but do not physically encounter them, and only use electronic transfer of data to alert them when they are going off track.


21st December 2012
After sixteen years of research and investigation, the whole planet’s population has been informed and the “religion switch” is turned off.

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NOTES
The Past and Present sections are a basic summary of 10 years of actual research.

The Future section contains thoughts on how all this may have come about.

Visual presentations may be found at worldbreakingdiscoveries com au . .

How then do you think modern objects and their contents became documented and depicted in many of the world’s ancient texts - as the evidence shows ?
 
I see a serious flaw in your fictional "experiments"

...Equipment: Desk-top computer in carry box, plus historical compact disks and history books; ...

First off why not use a Laptop. It's made to be portable, and has battery power (for a couple hours anyhow) and won't need to be plugged in. I think in 2500 BC or whenever wall sockets were scarce.

I'm not going to poke holes in your "research" on an individual point by point basis because it's not necessary. Each and every one of your bulleted 'PRESENT' points is completely and utterly wrong and baseless. If you disagree you're welcome to post what you believe to be evidence.
 
I don't see much Science, Mathematics, Medicine or Technology in this thread. Shouldn't it be moved to Religion & Philosophy?
 
The right picture, from Plate VII, shows the same two people in a special room¹, where the sitting male is playing a board game and the woman no longer holds the menat.

Does the 'board' represent a computer's keyboard - and has the woman given the mouse & cable plus a compact disk to the male, who is attempting to use the keyboard after offering the disk to the altar ?
No, the board is quite clearly depicted as a game somewhat similar (at least in appearance) to chess.

He was given two tables of stone (ie. 2 compact disks), and utilized a miraculous staff (mouse & cable).
I think even a complete idiot of those times would recognize that a CD wasn't made of stone. And how the heck does a mouse and cable get described as a wand?

Joseph Smith wrote of his encounter .....snip..... He was given plates and two stones (plastic cases containing compact disks).
Again, how could someone be so dense at to describe transparent plastic as stone?

Ezekiel 2:9-10 says "Behold a roll of a book...written within and without&quot.

English meaning of "roll" is 'to rotate' (as in a rotary motion of an object around its own axis).

These are descrbing a compact disk that spins around (rolls) and has its information sealed within layers of plastic.
Wow, what a stretch. Roll has a very specific meaning, it means to rotate around a horizontal axis in such a way as to move forwards in a horizontal direction perpendicular to said horizontal axis.
Nobody who had actually seen a CD working would describe it as "rolling" and that isn't even the way it was described. It was described as "a roll of a book" which is how one would describe a large scroll.

The ladder or mast glyph depicted in Egyptian hieroglyphics is pronounced
as A-HA. This when vocalized, sounds somewhat like scA-LA.

When these letters are pronounced they sound similar to SCALA.
CUL-LAm sounds like sCA- LA. In his language, Jacob saw a CUL-LAm (ie. sCA-LA).
Umm, no.

Talk to a linguist.

Seriously.

AL-LAH (Muslim KUL-LAH) is a form of scA-LA, combining the original Egyptian sounds of A-HA (scA-lA) and LA (sca-LA) giving A-LA, with the Hebrew sounds of cUL-LAm (being UL-LA).
This one deserves special mention. Al'lah is a contraction of "al illah" which is arabic, and translates directly as "The God", as in, "The one and only God". It's just Arabic. it's not a proper name, but a description, which already existed in the language.

Oh, and while we're on this section,

John reports seeing 12 lots of 12,000.

John reported seeing the list of 12 items containing the 12:00:00:00 notation.
Anyone else notice a missing 0 here?

Revelations 7:4 "And I heard the number of them which were sealed...144,000"

143442 rounded up = 144,000 (ie. 144K of data - where the K represents 'a thousand').
The time messenger rounded the number up before telling John.
Anyone with any knowledge of maths would round that figure to 143,000, and I'd be willing to bet that anyone with enough knowledge to go on such a time travelling mission would have enough maths knowledge to know that.

In earlier computers before 'Desktop' was introduced, programs had to be run by selecting the file's name from the File Manager's Screen. The default window size of this screen for Windows 3.x allowed for twelve files to be shown.

When the Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean cd-rom is run on an old mid 1995 computer, the following twelve files appear in the default screen.
I thought these time travellers came from our future. If so, then why the heck were they using a 1995 computer to run a CDROM which can be run on a modern system?

Ark of Shittim Wood - 2.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 cubits = a small wooden box similar to that being held by the Mormon witnesses (where cubits represent hand-widths of about 10cm) being approx 15 x 15 x 25 cm.
From http://ebible.org/web/glossary.htm;

"A cubit is a unit of linear measure, from the elbow to the tip of the longest finger of a man. This unit is commonly converted to 0.46 meters or 18 inches, although that varies with height of the man doing the measurement. There is also a “long” cubit that is longer than a regular cubit by a handbreadth. (Ezekiel 43:13)"

This makes the box 3'9"x2'3"x2'3". That's one heck of a big computer.

The caption to the below Egyptian picture says "The mummy of Ani is lying
on a bed in the form of a lion. Under the bed are a scribe's palette and some
containers. Two kites stand as guardians at each end of the bed".

Things to note:
Direction of body on bed.
The bed is a Lion. (Its face is
at the top of the right end leg.)
Two sets of two containers under bed, also a white chest.
Direction of body on bed? Well they only had a 50/50 chance of being the same.
The Lion has been used throughout recorded history as a symbol of strength and power.
The containers under the bed are Canopic jars (I suggest you look that up).

Dialogues of the Greek philosopher Plato circa 360 BCE Critias Dialogue

He described a city - ATLANTIS

(Extracted paraphrased descriptions)
Atlantis city is described as being on a mountain that is steep on its seaward side.
It is surrounded by a wall upon which guards keep watch from the towers.
And immediately next to it is a level plain that has rectangular fields surrounded
by irrigation ditches.

Let's compare these descriptions with this picture of the Etruscan menu page

The bolded Key Words described by Plato are obvious in the picture.

Plato has described the Etruscan city from the Ancients CD-Rom.
A paraphrased description that could apply to a vast number of ancient shoreline cities.

Dialogues of the Greek philosopher Plato circa 360 BCE Critias Dialogue

He described FIVE RINGS

(Extracted paraphrased descriptions)
"making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another;
there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each
having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre"
I won't even bother with your description. What he's describing are defensive ditches, mounds and moats. Also very common to cities in that era.

In the encyclopedia Mundus Subterraneus by Kircher (1665AD)
it is claimed that a mysterious map of Atlantis (depicted here)
was stolen from Egypt by the early Roman invaders.

When we click upon the red dotted Towns from the first map
depicted on previous page, a further enlarged map (shown below)
appears in the Etruscan ATLAS section.

Kircher's map is the same shape as the island of Corsica - as seen on the maps.
Well, no.

Here's Kircher's Atlantis (clearly in the middle of the atlantic)
athanasius_kircher1.gif

And here's a map of Corsica.
corsica.jpg


I'll admit that there's a superficial resemblance, but it's not that good. Furthermore, Corsica is only partly shown on the CDROM map. And even more telling, wasn't the entire island of Atlantis supposed to have sunk into the sea? Last time I looked Corsica was still there.

And on the very next page you show "a depiction of the first Etruscan Atlas Map from the Ancients CD-Rom." in which Corsica is nowhere near the centre of the five rings.

There's nothing like consistency. :rolleyes:


I could go on, but frankly I was getting bored. There's absolutely nothing in this but wishful thinking, fantasy, and amazing stretches of credulity.

And those were only the most obvious, glaring errors that I picked out as I read through. :nope:
 
Some have even ‘amended’ the contents of the ancient texts to make it seem that they have matched the foretold events

Yes. Some people do that.


21st December 2012
After sixteen years of research and investigation, the whole planet’s population has been informed and the “religion switch” is turned off.

Does this switching off take place suddenly or gradually?

Also, what will you do if all this has not occurred by 2013?
 
Not an Egyptian cubit - an Hebrew cubit

A cubit is a unit of linear measure, from the elbow to the tip of the longest finger of a man.
That’s an Egyptian ‘cubit’.

In the Hebrew Bible we need to use the original Hebrew meaning for “cubit”.

Extract p37, World Breaking Discoveries, 2007.
In Strong's Concordance Hebrew word 520 “cubit” means 'a unit of measure'. Elsewhere in the Bible this measurement is further defined. Word 1574 “cubit” comes from an unused root meaning 'to grasp' (with the hand), and means 'span'. This means that a 'span' has something to do with a 'hand'. A “handbreadth” is the breadth of a human palm, being 10cm. Thus a “cubit” in this case refers to the span of the palm, being roughly 10cm (or 4 inches).

So converting 2.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 handspans (ie.cubits) to metric measurements gives a wooden box about 25cm x 15cm x 15cm in size. That’s about 10 x 6 x 6 inches.

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Kircher’s Map has the ‘north’ pointing down. Rotate the map so it points up (or rotate the cd-rom map).
 
21st December 2012
After sixteen years of research and investigation, the whole planet’s population has been informed and the “religion switch” is turned off.

Well I must admit, that's the most positive interpretation of Terence McKenna's Pseudo-Mayan woo I've seen.

Now, if only believing something hard enough were to make it true, you'd be my new hero.

ETA: actually you've just reminded me, I've got some, er, 'special' cookies in my freezer, and I've been meaning to eat them. Perhaps I shall do so tonight, so as to be in the right frame of mind to appreciate your OP.
 
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That’s an Egyptian ‘cubit’.

In the Hebrew Bible we need to use the original Hebrew meaning for “cubit”.

Extract p37, World Breaking Discoveries, 2007.
It's really sad when people can't read, or have to fiddle the data to fit their hypothesis.

There is also a “long” cubit that is longer than a regular cubit by a handbreadth. (Ezekiel 43:13)
That would refer to this passage;

43:13 And these are the measures of the altar after the cubits: The cubit is a cubit and an hand breadth; even the bottom shall be a cubit, and the breadth a cubit, and the border thereof by the edge thereof round about shall be a span: and this shall be the higher place of the altar.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/43.html

Kircher’s Map has the ‘north’ pointing down. Rotate the map so it points up (or rotate the cd-rom map).
I did, still only a passing resemblance.

To my mind it looks a lot more like Greenland;
greenland.jpg

And at least that's in the Atlantic!
 
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Crew: Two chrononauts (dressed in white lab coats);
Equipment: Desk-top computer in carry box, plus historical compact disks and history books;



Have we completely settled on the term "chrononaut"?
 
Now if he would have used the disks that inspired the book of mormon....

At least those look like disks.... :D
 
Now if he would have used the disks that inspired the book of mormon....

At least those look like disks.... :D
He did. Apparently what Joseph Smith described as "stones" were actually CD cases. Because it's really easy to see how clear plastic looks like stone. :rolleyes:
 
Now if he would have used the disks that inspired the book of mormon....

At least those look like disks.... :D

Weren't those made of gold (golden plates to be more precise)? Be kind of hard for a CD drive's motor to spin up (note use of the word 'spin' over 'rotate') something that heavy...

Maybe Joseph Smith got one of these:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/images/VoyagerCover.jpg_2big.gif
Or maybe he just sold lots of records:
http://www.laurelcanyonthebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/180px-GPN-2000-001976.jpg
 
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Weren't those made of gold (golden plates to be more precise)? Be kind of hard for a CD drive's motor to spin up (note use of the word 'spin' over 'rotate') something that heavy...

There are CDs made with gold foil instead of aluminum foil. Of all of Edy_P's claims this one is the mildest.
 
I thought these time travellers came from our future. If so, then why the heck were they using a 1995 computer to run a CDROM which can be run on a modern system?

Quoted for relevance.

Edy_P, you will garner more respect here if you answer all of the questions posed. If you can answer only one, I'd vote for this one from Woolery.
 

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