Time to kick Iran

AFAIK, they do not believe George Bush is the devil, but, almost 90% of the non-Americans I know, have a negative disposition ( to say the least ) against the current ( and past ) American administration.
This is anecdotal evidence. Further it could very well be confirmation bias. How did you control for your bias?

Matteo, I like you. Come on. This is a skeptics forum. We preach critical thinking. I know it's the Politics Forum and there are some who don't care but you can and should do better.

Yo are an intellectually honest person. That's a good thing. I very much want to see you become a critical thinker.

You should take this into consideration ( not my opinion, but polls in other countries )
Let's take it one step at a time. Let's lock down those numbers with demonstrable evidence, fair enough?
 
This is anecdotal evidence. Further it could very well be confirmation bias. How did you control for your bias?

Matteo, I like you. Come on. This is a skeptics forum. We preach critical thinking. I know it's the Politics Forum and there are some who don't care but you can and should do better.

Yo are an intellectually honest person. That's a good thing. I very much want to see you become a critical thinker.

Let's take it one step at a time. Let's lock down those numbers with demonstrable evidence, fair enough?

OK

I will try to do better.

Yet solid majorities in five of the six Muslim countries surveyed -- Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan and Turkey -- also now have unfavorable views of the United States. In the sixth, Morocco, views are divided. The governments in all six countries are U.S. allies and receive U.S. aid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071401030_2.html

That is about the was, in 2003, dunno if it is relevant

From Portugal to Russia, opinion surveys suggest that without a further UN resolution, most Europeans are overwhelmingly against war - and even a second resolution would not convince many of them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2747175.stm

And, this is the Guardian, 2004:

The poll, conducted by 10 of the world's leading newspapers, including France's Le Monde, Japan's Asahi Shimbun, Canada's La Presse, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Guardian, also shows that on balance world opinion does not believe that the war in Iraq has made a positive contribution to the fight against terror.
The results show that in Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Japan, Spain and South Korea a majority of voters share a rejection of the Iraq invasion, contempt for the Bush administration, a growing hostility to the US and a not-too-strong endorsement of Mr Kerry. But they all make a clear distinction between this kind of anti-Americanism and expressing a dislike of American people. On average 68% of those polled say they have a favourable opinion of Americans.

And, this is 2007:

PARIS: Distrust of the United States has intensified across the world, but overall views of America remain very or somewhat favorable among majorities in 25 of 47 countries surveyed in a major international opinion poll, the Pew Research Center reported Wednesday.

"Anti-Americanism since 2002 has deepened, but it hasn't really widened," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Global Attitudes Project. "It has worsened among America's European allies and is very, very bad in the Muslim world. But there is still a favorable view of the United States in many African countries, as well as in 'New Europe' and the Far East."

Nonetheless, majorities in many countries reject the main planks of current U.S. foreign policy and express distaste for American-style democracy, the survey found.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/27/news/pew.php

This is BBC, 2007:

When asked about US military presence in the Middle East, an average of 68% of respondents across the 25 countries answered that it "provokes more conflict than it prevents".

The questions were put to people in: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Chile, China, Egypt, France, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Korea, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and the United States.
 

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Other interesting surveys:

World Publics Reject US Role as the World Leader
Majorities Still Want US to Do Its Share in Multilateral Efforts,
Not Withdraw from International Affairs

Mixed Views on US Overseas Bases

A multinational poll finds that publics around the world reject the idea that the United States should play the role of preeminent world leader. Most publics say the United States plays the role of world policeman more than it should, fails to take their country’s interests into account and cannot be trusted to act responsibly.

But the survey also finds that majorities in most countries want the United States to participate in international efforts to address world problems. Views are divided about whether the United States should reduce the number of military bases it has overseas. Moreover, many publics think their country’s relations with the United States are improving.

Americans largely agree with the rest of the world: most do not think the United States should remain the world’s preeminent leader and prefer that it play a more cooperative role. They also believe United States plays the role of world policeman more than it should.

This is the fourth in a series of reports based on a worldwide poll about key international issues conducted by The Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org, in cooperation with polling organizations around the world. The larger study includes polls in China , India, the United States, Indonesia, Russia, France, Thailand, Ukraine, Poland, Iran, Mexico, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, Argentina, Peru, Israel and Armenia—plus the Palestinian territories.

The publics polled represent about 56 percent of the world’s population. Not all questions were asked in all countries.
 
It is straight forward; ad populum is a logical fallacy. RandFan was correct in calling it what it is. It does not make a difference to the facts if these opinions are of any "importance." That is an emotional argument.

Emotional or not, you should take it into consideration, when we are speaking about large populations, IMHO

At one time, a lot of people believed the Earth was flat, but it didn't change the fact that the Earth is not flat.

Politics is not science.
There is no right and wrong, there..
 
This is also interesting:

PRINCETON, NJ -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's fiery remarks about George W. Bush and the United States on Sept. 20 at the United Nation's 61st General Assembly led news shows around the globe, generated heavy blog traffic, and triggered strong reactions from both Bush supporters and foes alike, including former President Bill Clinton and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, the latter going as far as to call Chavez a "thug."

What is the public opinion context in which Chavez made these statements -- both in his home country of Venezuela and in other Latin American countries? Recent Gallup World Poll surveys in 18 countries in Latin America asked residents to rate the leadership of both Venezuela and the United States. The resulting responses provide valuable insights into the regional environment in which the controversial Venezuelan president is operating.

The majority of the surveys were conducted in May 2006, with the exception of Venezuela, Brazil, and Mexico, which were polled in December 2005. The results suggest that Latin Americans are not necessarily aligned in their support of Venezuela's leadership nor do they share a common perspective on U.S. leadership.

http://www.gallupworldpoll.com/content/?ci=24814
 

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Yet solid majorities in five of the six Muslim countries surveyed -- Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan and Turkey -- also now have unfavorable views of the United States. In the sixth, Morocco, views are divided. The governments in all six countries are U.S. allies and receive U.S. aid.
Yes, I absolutely expect this. It I'm not sure why you would think this is a surprise. Muslim religious leaders have taken a hard stance against America for a very long time because of our support of Israel.

The poll, conducted by 10 of the world's leading newspapers, including France's Le Monde, Japan's Asahi Shimbun, Canada's La Presse, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Guardian, also shows that on balance world opinion does not believe that the war in Iraq has made a positive contribution to the fight against terror.
The results show that in Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Japan, Spain and South Korea a majority of voters share a rejection of the Iraq invasion, contempt for the Bush administration, a growing hostility to the US and a not-too-strong endorsement of Mr Kerry. But they all make a clear distinction between this kind of anti-Americanism and expressing a dislike of American people. On average 68% of those polled say they have a favourable opinion of Americans.
This is about what I expect. Hell, Americans are share a rejection of the Iraqi invasion. Have you seen Bush's poll numbers? Thanks for leaving the 68% figure up though.

"Anti-Americanism since 2002 has deepened, but it hasn't really widened,"
Meaning the people that have never liked is don't like us even more.

...But there is still a favorable view of the United States in many African countries, as well as in 'New Europe' and the Far East."

Nonetheless, majorities in many countries reject the main planks of current U.S. foreign policy and express distaste for American-style democracy, the survey found.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/27/news/pew.php

This is BBC, 2007:

When asked about US military presence in the Middle East, an average of 68% of respondents across the 25 countries answered that it "provokes more conflict than it prevents".

The questions were put to people in: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Chile, China, Egypt, France, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Korea, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and the United States.
Thanks,

I'm not sure what it is you think you have discovered? I have no question that people are not very happy about the Iraq war and our current adminstration.

What do you think are the implications? Do you think this proves something beyond than perceptions of other people?

FTR, I think our actions in recent times have damaged our reputation abroad. I've said as much. I don't think it proves much other than we are the worlds only super power and that makes our situatution much worse.

If I asked you if Italy should act in Italy's best interest or America's best interest what would be your answer?

Should America act in America's best interest or act in a way to make everyone like us?
 
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Are we supposed to be impressed that you implemented an algorithm invented by an American-educated engineer many decades ago?
Illiterate.

The Goertzel algorithm stands for Goertzel from Germany.

U.S. imported it.
 
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OK

You did not reply any of my questions.

In particular, you did not reply to my question about this " Le Galois ", you were talking about.

I consider you a troll.

This is the end of the program, from my side..
You repeatedly wrote "...for the last time..." regarding Le Galois.

Looks like "...for the last time..." doesn't mean for the last time.

I consider you a troll:
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.) you didn't answer my post about my experience in U.S. in various states;

.) you didn't answer my post about Americans believing in evolution more than Europeans, sign of a faulty education;

.) you didn't answer my post about Americans doing poorly in scientific tests compared to the rest of industrialized countries.

Ask yourself:

why are you brown nosing U.S. with its low standards?
 
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I'm sorry to hear you were lured into the film industry. Perhaps you should get counseling.
How is that American culture going for you?

The one where you heard they develop Yugo cars somewhere in the world, everything being a blur to you.
 
Yep, RandFan, you'll notice he's SO EXPLOITED that he's staying here in this pit of corruption, capitalism and cretinism to earn - what, ten times? - the average salary in Romania.

Of course, he still hasn't explained why he left France. Unless...what if THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HIM? OMG, this might mean rethinking all my prejudices against the French. ;)
Like if money matters that much to me.

But keep on slobbering about money:

without education you won't get it.
 
The cleaning lady from France has spoken:
As I wrote earlier in this thread, Ion is typical of a fraction of my compatriots that we are usually very happy to see leave the country...
All raise for the cleaning lady.
 
"Never mind"? Oliver, I don't know if you have noticed but you are quickly becoming irrelvant if you haven't become so allready.

For you to say never mind is rather redundant.
Unjustly attacking Iraq is irrelevant?

Unjustly attacking Iran is irrelevant?

I think you need to be jailed.
 
That isn't news. I bet the Pentagon has lots of different plans for how to hit Iran...
In The Price of Loyalty by O'Reilly there was a meeting led by Bush in December 2000 regarding invading Iraq.

So Bush talk about 9/11 as explanation of invading Iraq, that's smack.

Terror is by:

Bush and fans.

Now they threaten Iran.
 
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Unjustly attacking Iraq is irrelevant?

Unjustly attacking Iran is irrelevant?

I think you need to be jailed.
:D I love you dude. FWIW, there is a behind the scenes debate and bet as to your purpose here. I've got $20 riding on it. Don't let me down.
 
There's no hypocricy at all. Iran agreed not to have any. Playing stupid, indeed.
...
Well it looks like Iran hasn't agreed.

For past agreements with U.N. that are breached (like the Geneva Convention, Resolution 1441, etc.), see Bush.
 
Criticism followed by an actual discussion would be fine, but he's not interested in actually learning anything. He's still claiming it is against the law in the US to swear, for example.
But what have you learned?

That lying about WMDs in Iraq is OK.
 
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