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[Ion]

Forgot:

John Forbes Nash, Jr. (born June 13, 1928) is an American mathematician ...

That's silly.

Nash worked on a variation of Hungarian mathematician von Neumann's theorem.

Nash didn't get a Fields prize in mathematics, but the lesser one, Nobel in economy.

Prizes are society's awards like I said.

What's shown to be useful in books is better than society's awards.

You are slow to absorb what I say and follow up consistently.

The book A Beautiful Mind by Sylvia Naser, depicts Nash's life.
It proves what I say here.
That U.S. imports massively from Socialist Europe in order to build itself.
U.S. doesn't make good mathematicians locally.
M.I.T., Princeton, Rutgers are really barracks in the 1930s.
They import mathematicians like Lefschetz (France) to become Dean at Rutgers and build the mathematics department there.

 

[Matteo Martini]

Dantzig's education was influenced by his father, a student of Poincare in Paris.

Poincare and the society in which he grew up, was influenced by his ancestors, the Romans and the Gauls..

Anyway, still waiting for your reply about " Le Galois "..
Who is this man? Did some research..
I found no mathematician with that name, are you sure you are not wrong?

 

[Ion]

Poincare and the society in which he grew up, was influenced by his ancestors, the Romans and the Gauls...

So not by U.S..

 

[Matteo Martini]

That's silly.

Nash worked on a variation of Hungarian mathematicain von Neumann's theorem.

Nash didn't get a Fields prize in mathematics, but the lesser one, Nobel in economy.

Prizes are society's awards like I said.

I wish I could get one..

What's shown to be useful in books is better than society's awards.

You are slow to absorb what I say and follow up consistently.

The book A Beautiful Mind by Sylvia Naser, depicts Nash's life.
It proves what I say here.
That U.S. imports massively from Socialist Europe in order to build itself.
U.S. doesn't make locally.
M.I.T., Princeton, Rutgers are really barracks in the 1930s.
They import mathematicians like Leftschetz (France) to become Dean at Rutgers and build the mathematics department there.

You do not get the point.
All the mathematicians in the books you quoted, were making their works in the 19th, 18th century and before ( up to 1905 ).
America became in the front end of technology in the last 100 years, so, you will not find many mathematicians in the classical mathematics and engineering books, as the mathematicians in those books, almost all lived 100, 150, 200 or more years ago.

Also, when you say that America " imported " mathematicians from Europe, I beg to tell you, that America " imported " not only mathematicians, but some 95% of its current population from abroad, since, 400 years ago, there were basically only natives in the now-called U.S.

So, it is silly when you say that Dantzig was influenced by his father who lived in Paris, as, a vast majority of the American population of the early 1900s, had fathers, grand-fathers coming from abroad.

Also, waiting for a reply about " Le Galois "..

 

[Matteo Martini]

So not by U.S..

I frankly doubt that, at the time of the Romans and the Gauls, the U.S. could have influenced anyone, since the U.S. was founded about 1500 to 2000 years after their time..

 

[Ion]

...All the mathematicians in the books you quoted, were making their works in the 19th, 18th century and before ( up to 1905 ).
America became in the front end of technology in the last 100 years,...

Really?

You mean that this:

...
To believe that the American standards match Socialist Europe's, you fool yourself, in spite of numerous data that show Europe being ahead.

For example The San Diego Union Tribune of December 7 2004 writes:

"Teens from two-thirds of the world's industrialized countries beat Americans on a scientific test.
"We're not as competitive as we need to be using the skills needed for on-the-job performance,", said Undersecretary Eugene Hickok of the Department of Education, which run the U.S. portion of the tests..."

and The San Diego Union Tribune of Thursday August 24, 2006 writes:

"Roughly one-third of Americans surveyed by a Michigan State University researcher say they do not believe in evolution...In Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, and France, for example, 80 percent or more of the surveyed population accept the idea of evolution..."

Combined with lack of hygiene in U.S. when diplaying obesity, lack of height (a study has the average whites in U.S. at 5'10", and in Holland at 6'1", in Czech Republic at 6'0", etc., due to better healthcare), the lack of education in U.S. compared to Socialist Europe is a sign that:

Capitalism with its individualism, doesn't work in civilization

doesn't count?

You are wrong.

 

[Ion]

To:

...Also, when you say that America " imported " mathematicians from Europe, I beg to tell you, that America " imported " not only mathematicians, but some 95% of its current population from abroad, since, 400 years ago, there were basically only natives in the now-called U.S.
...

and to:

I frankly doubt that, at the time of the Romans and the Gauls, the U.S. could have influenced anyone, since the U.S. was founded about 1500 to 2000 years after their time..

Sure.

But what has U.S. ever done since its inception 233 years ago?

Other than Capitalism, wars, religion and Nobel 'prizes'?

 

[Ziggurat]

And you are wrong.

I showed that he is a founder of topology which is used in relativity.

No, you merely claimed that, despite evidence to the contrary, and with zero evidence to support it. Do you know how Poincare's contributions were connected to the metric of special relativity? No, you don't. You've got no idea what he contributed to special relativity, or its significance. Do you know why the metric of a manifold isn't the same thing as its topology? No, you don't. Hell, do you even understand what a metric or a manifold is? I seriously doubt it, and you've certainly provided no evidence that you do. You're a clueless idiot, with absolutely no understanding of physics. All you can do is use google and post the first link you come across, and then ignore it when that very source contradicts what you claim.

 

[Ion]

No, you merely claimed that, despite evidence to the contrary, and with zero evidence to support it.blah...blah...

I gave evidence that Poincare made new mathematics (in spite of your ignorance) used in relativity (in spite of your ignorance).

What can I expect from an American who thinks Reimann existed, confuses finite with infinite, doesn't know Riemann's contribution to integral of sinx/x?

 

[Ion]

...Also, waiting for a reply about " Le Galois "..

With Le Galois or without, my proof is done by Poincare.

Streamline, will you?

 

[Darth Rotor]

To:

and to:

Sure.

But what has U.S. ever done since its inception 233 years ago?

Other than Capitalism, wars, religion and Nobel 'prizes'?

Ever hear of an airplane? Brothers named Wright?

Ever hear of submarines, and a man named Holland?

Ever hear of a light bulb?

DR

 

[Matteo Martini]

With Le Galois or without, my proof is done by Poincare.

Streamline, will you?

So, maybe you were mistaken, when you spoke about this " Le Galois "?
Please, tell me..

 

[Matteo Martini]

To:

and to:

Sure.

But what has U.S. ever done since its inception 233 years ago?

Other than Capitalism, wars, religion and Nobel 'prizes'?

So, do we agree that, we have a reason why we do not find so many American mathematician in classical engineering books?

 

[Matteo Martini]

Really?

You mean that this:

doesn't count?

You are wrong.

I did not know that " displaying obesity " had anything to do with being a good scientist ( or not )

 

[Darth Rotor]

So, maybe you were mistaken, when you spoke about this " Le Galois "?
Please, tell me..

Meh, my favorite reference to Galois is as a brand of cigarettes.

Oh, wait, that was Gauloise. Sadly, they went the way of the dodo bird.

Rich coffin nails. Slightly better than Gitanes.

DR

 

[Matteo Martini]

But what has U.S. ever done since its inception 233 years ago?

Other than Capitalism, wars, religion and Nobel 'prizes'?

Virtually, started many, if not all, the hi-tech industries of today?

 

[Ziggurat]

I gave evidence that Poincare made new mathematics (in spite of your ignorance) used in relativity (in spite of your ignorance).

Clearly you didn't, since you claimed his contribution was topology, but as your own source points out, the topology of special relativity is no different than the topology of Newtonian physics. You've got no idea what topology means, do you?

What can I expect from an American who thinks Reimann existed,

Still on about that? God, you're a loser. It's a spelling mistake. You've shown in this same thread that you're hardly immune from them yourself. Idiot.

confuses finite with infinite,

I did nothing of the sort.

doesn't know Riemann's contribution to integral of sinx/x?

When did you ever ask about that? You didn't. You just asked what the actual integral was, and I gave you the answer.

 

[Matteo Martini]

Meh, my favorite reference to Galois is as a brand of cigarettes.

Oh, wait, that was Gauloise.

Better say, Gauloises

Sadly, they went the way of the dodo bird.

Rich coffin nails. Slightly better than Gitanes.

DR

I am starting losing interest in this thread.
I do have the suspicion that Ion can be just a cunny troll..

 

[Matteo Martini]

Another important American mathematician..

Carl Pomerance

Carl Pomerance (born in 1944 in Joplin, Missouri) is a well known number theorist. He attended college at Brown University and later received his PhD from Harvard University in 1972 for his study that any odd perfect number N has at least 7 distinct prime factors. He immediately joined the faculty at the University of Georgia, becoming full professor in 1982. He subsequently worked at Lucent Technologies for a number of years, and then became a Distinguished Professor at Dartmouth College.

He has won many teaching and research awards, including the Chauvenet Prize in 1985, MAA's distinguished university teaching award in 1997, and the Conant Prize in 2001. He has over 120 publications to his credit, including co-authorship with R. Crandall of Prime numbers: a computational perspective, Springer-Verlag, 2001, 2005. He is the inventor of one of the most important factorisation methods, the quadratic sieve algorithm, which was used in 1994 for the factorisation of RSA-129. He is also one of the discoverers of the Adleman-Pomerance-Rumely primality test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Pomerance

 

[Ziggurat]

He has over 120 publications to his credit, including co-authorship with R. Crandall of Prime numbers: a computational perspective, Springer-Verlag, 2001, 2005.

Is that R. as in Richard? If so, I know the guy. Took a class by him once.