Threatening Petroeuro?

[Oliver]

Aside from the risk of getting bumped to the conspiracy section soon, do you seriously think George Bush can pronounce "Petroeuro", let alone make a decision about it?

Quite frankly, I guess Bush is a puppet for those who actually have the full knowledge about the issues. He's just the guy to add the signatures for them.

 

[rtalman]

Quite frankly, I guess Bush is a puppet for those who actually have the full knowledge about the issues. He's just the guy to add the signatures for them.

And "those" are? Illuminati? CFR? Freemasons? Bildebergers? Skull and Bones?

 

[Oliver]

And "those" are? Illuminati? CFR? Freemasons? Bildebergers? Skull and Bones?

Skull and Bones is indeed very interesting in connection to your question, but no - I'm rather talking about the Neocons.

And no - not the Neocons who plan to take over the world - as your answer might suggest.

 

[rtalman]

Skull and Bones is indeed very interesting in connection to your question, but no - I'm rather talking about the Neocons.

And no - not the Neocons who plan to take over the world - as your answer might suggest.

Then what is the hidden hand of the "Neocons" shaping world events for, if not to take over the world?

 

[Oliver]

Then what is the hidden hand of the "Neocons" shaping world events for, if not to take over the world?

To toddle around the world and make Americans look like a bunch of [fill in the blank], apparently.

 

[rtalman]

To toddle around the world and make Americans look like a bunch of Care Bears, apparently.

There, I filled in the blank.

So, your assertion is that the Neocons invaded Iraq over the switch from the Petrodollar to the Petroeuro, and they will soon invade Iran for the same reason, all the while Bush is merely Lambchop to their collective Shari Lewis.

Is that a reasonable precis of the positions you have presented in this thread?

 

[Oliver]

There, I filled in the blank.

So, your assertion is that the Neocons invaded Iraq over the switch from the Petrodollar to the Petroeuro, and they will soon invade Iran for the same reason, all the while Bush is merely Lambchop to their collective Shari Lewis.

Is that a reasonable precis of the positions you have presented in this thread?

You tell me. My position, as you might have noticed in several of my replies, still is - and the replies from most posters weren't a big help to change this - that I'm no expert on this particular issue, meaning Petrodollars and Petroeuros.

And no, I have no Idea how this Issue relates to the Neocons.

So? Would America go to war to protect their economical interest and is the Euro an economical threat if it will replace the Dollar?

 

[rtalman]

And no, I have no Idea how this Issue relates to the Neocons.

Oh?

Quite frankly, I guess Bush is a puppet for those who actually have the full knowledge about the issues. He's just the guy to add the signatures for them.

I'm rather talking about the Neocons.

Would America go to war to protect their economical interest

Perhaps.

is the Euro an economical threat if it will replace the Dollar?

Brighter minds than mine have answered that question ad nauseum in this thread.

You tell me. My position, as you might have noticed in several of my replies, still is - and the replies from most posters weren't a big help to change this - that I'm no expert on this particular issue, meaning Petrodollars and Petroeuros.

For brevity's sake, I will interpret this as "yes". It only remains to test your hypothesis, and for that we merely need to wait.

 

[Oliver]

Oh?

Perhaps.Brighter minds than mine have answered that question ad nauseum in this thread.

For brevity's sake, I will interpret this as "yes". It only remains to test your hypothesis, and for that we merely need to wait.

Well, I tried to get an expert from Deutsche Bank on the phone, but unfortunately they persisted to know if I'm a customer of them and what this information is needed for, so they refused to forward me after I explained that I'm writing an article about the subject and want to speak to someone who is familiar with this topic. Their reply was that I should write to their Press-department to get a formal answer.

How this relates to my "hypothesis"? Well, I'm waiting for their reply...

 

[Tailgater]

Well, I tried to get an expert from Deutsche Bank on the phone, but unfortunately they persisted to know if I'm a customer of them and what this information is needed for, so they refused to forward me after I explained that I'm writing an article about the subject and want to speak to someone who is familiar with this topic. Their reply was that I should write to their Press-department to get a formal answer.

How this relates to my "hypothesis"? Well, I'm waiting for their reply...

If you mentioned your hypothesis to them, I doubt you will get a reply.

 

[Oliver]

If you mentioned your hypothesis to them, I doubt you will get a reply.

*lol* No, I didn't do that - I simply asked what effects it would have for the dollar value if the Petro-dollar would be replaced by the Petro-Euro. Or if the Euro itself would be the most traded currency.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

*lol* No, I didn't do that - I simply asked what effects it would have for the dollar value if the Petro-dollar would be replaced by the Petro-Euro. Or if the Euro itself would be the most traded currency.

Wouldn't that be the same thing -- essentially -- as dumping dollars?

 

[Oliver]

Wouldn't that be the same thing -- essentially -- as dumping dollars?

It depends on what you think "dumping dollars" means.
The Dollar banknotes would still be out there - and from my understanding loosing all it's value once everyone is trying to get rid of them if the currency starts to fall rapidly.

So yes, this sounds like a real and serious threat for the Dollar. Serious enough to fight wars against such threats.

 

[WildCat]

So yes, this sounds like a real and serious threat for the Dollar. Serious enough to fight wars against such threats.

Great FSM! I think Oliver just stated that the US will go to war with Europe over what currency dominates in the oil trade!

 

[Oliver]

Great FSM! I think Oliver just stated that the US will go to war with Europe over what currency dominates in the oil trade!

Why should they? Europe has no oil to sell it for Petro€ - the "Evildoers" have. And it would be harder to explain it to the blind clueless crowds that Europe now is a bunch of terror-states, too. (It works so much easier to declare states in the Middle-East as being Terror-States, just like the Iranian Military, for example).

 

[Gurdur]

.... Europe has no oil to sell it for Petro€ ...

Suuuuure, Oliver, I guess you never heard of Britain, Norway and Russia, all of whom sell quite a fair amount of oil.

I would add the usual remark about your statement being utterly ridiculous, except of course given the "your", it would be redundant to so note.

 

[Gurdur]

Well, I tried to get an expert from Deutsche Bank.....

Normally I never liked the Deutsche Bank -- I bank with another one -- but today is the very first day in my life that I have actually felt sympathy for the Deutsche Bank.

 

[Oliver]

Suuuuure, Oliver, I guess you never heard of Britain, Norway and Russia, all of whom sell quite a fair amount of oil.

I would add the usual remark about your statement being utterly ridiculous, except of course given the "your", it would be redundant to so note.

Oh really? Do they sell their oil in Euros or Dollars to America?

Normally I never liked the Deutsche Bank -- I bank with another one -- but today is the very first day in my life that I have actually felt sympathy for the Deutsche Bank.

I like you, Gurdur - you're funny.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

It depends on what you think "dumping dollars" means.
The Dollar banknotes would still be out there - and from my understanding loosing all it's value once everyone is trying to get rid of them if the currency starts to fall rapidly.

So yes, this sounds like a real and serious threat for the Dollar. Serious enough to fight wars against such threats.

And yet earlier in this thread, you categorically stated that dumping dollars would have no effect on the dollar's value:

As long the Dollars are in foreign hands - no matter where - the dollars value wouldn't sink. Do you understand that

So, as far as I can tell, your theory here depends on the threat of dumping dollars being so great to the economy of the US that it will go to war over it, and simultaneously dumping the dollar will have absolutely no effect at all on the dollar's value.


Let me guess: You've never taken a single economics class, have you?

 

[Oliver]

And yet earlier in this thread, you categorically stated that dumping dollars would have no effect on the dollar's value:

So, as far as I can tell, your theory here depends on the threat of dumping dollars being so great to the economy of the US that it will go to war over it, and simultaneously dumping the dollar will have absolutely no effect at all on the dollar's value.

Let me guess: You've never taken a single economics class, have you?

No. That's why I started this thread: Educate me.