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pdoherty76

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I have been "dared" to come here by several of the deranged trolls at the screw loose change blog. Apparantly my temerity in questioning the official 911 fairytale has made these boys angry.

Before u ask, no I am not a structural engineer, but I wasnt aware that took away all my rights to an opinion.

Before you claim I have taken my opinions from loose change let me state categorically that I think its an awful film that is at least 80% incorrect

Before you claim I am a terrorist supporter I will let you know that I hate real terrorists(such as the IRA which bombed my country for years)

oh and before you start slating my grammar, spelling and punctuation, dont bother. I type this way cos its quicker and i will continue to do it

Great site by the way. Lets see if any actual fair debates occur within it
 
I welcomed you in another thread you posted in, so I will not bore you with a repeat, but welcome.

For what it is worth, though I am not a troll, I was one of the blog posters over at SLC Blog who "dared" you (remember I apologized for using the word "dare").

As I said in the other thread, pick a topic you think needs discussion, re:9/11, and then bring your evidence to back up your pov, or ask for evidence to clarify.

TAM
 
It is not "questioning 911" that might get you in trouble here. Questioning in fact is encouraged here. On the other hand, you will be challenged if you haven't done your homework before making factual claims.
 
pdoherty76 said:
I have been "dared" to come here by several of the deranged trolls at the screw loose change blog. Apparantly my temerity in questioning the official 911 fairytale has made these boys angry.
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Ok. Welcome. Why exactly do you refer to it as a "fairytale"?

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Before u ask, no I am not a structural engineer, but I wasnt aware that took away all my rights to an opinion.
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There's only one post in this thread at the time of my reply, and I se no one sayng that you have no rights to an opinion. To assume this argument is going to be made out of the gate is a logical fallacy.

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Before you claim I have taken my opinions from loose change let me state categorically that I think its an awful film that is at least 80% incorrect
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Again, I caution you about making assumptions about people before you have had interaction with them.

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Before you claim I am a terrorist supporter I will let you know that I hate real terrorists(such as the IRA which bombed my country for years)
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Ok. Do you think Al Quaeda is a terrorist organization? Also, this is the third assumption of our positions on your part.

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oh and before you start slating my grammar, spelling and punctuation, dont bother. I type this way cos its quicker and i will continue to do it
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Well, inherent immaturity of this type of position aside, you haven't helped any new forming opinions of yourself by declaring things in such a standoff way. However, use whatever type of language you want to (mind rule 8 though. The mods tend to frown on breaking it.)

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Great site by the way. Lets see if any actual fair debates occur within it
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Have you ever heard of the term backhanded compliment? You've started off on a rather shaky foot with us so far. You've assumed 4 times what we are going to argue with you, and set up strawmen arguments based on that, and slyly insulted the board by insinuating there are no fair debates here.

Welcome to the forum. How about we start over?

Tell us about what you believe, why you believe it, and please provide supporting evidence to examine.
 
ive told you my problems with 911. The core columns whose existence is denied. The unusual beams found curved into a semi circle with no buckling or cracks. The near free fall speed of collapse which violates momentum laws etc

when I see these explained fully I will be a happy man
 
i have made my assumptions by looking at previous posts. The way some people are treated is unbelievable. Look at christopheras post for example and the way one particular poster is determined to get him to admit seeing loose change
 
I'll be damned! Welcome, I told ya!

ETA: C phera wore out his welcome. Look around... this ain't no disco. You can speak your mind. Be prepared to bring it. Thick skin won't hurt either!

WELCOME!
 
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So these, above, are the only descrepencies you have with all of the 9/11 attack account?

If so, I suggest making a thread addressing one of them, and then discuss it with others here, until you are satisfied (Christophera has a thead over 100 pages long debating the presence or not of a "concrete core" in the WTCs, so there will likely be some discussion if you approach it that way.

TAM
 
pdoherty76 said:
i have made my assumptions by looking at previous posts. The way some people are treated is unbelievable. Look at christopheras post for example and the way one particular poster is determined to get him to admit seeing loose change
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Why exactly did you assume this would be how people react to you?

Are you going to address any other points in my post?
 
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. The ones based on proven facts are the ones I prefer to those based on myths.

Welcome.
 
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ive told you my problems with 911. The core columns whose existence is denied.
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:confused: Would you care to support that statement?

The unusual beams found curved into a semi circle with no buckling or cracks.
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What, exactly, does this curved beam prove?

The near free fall speed of collapse which violates momentum laws etc
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None of the buildings fell close to freefall. How fast did you expect them to fall, and how fast did you time them as falling?

when I see these explained fully I will be a happy man
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Somehow, I have my doubts.
 
by the way my use of the word fairy tale is hyperbole i admit. But I believe in some areas it is an untrue story we have been told
 
pdoherty76 said:
by the way my use of the word fairy tale is hyperbole i admit. But I believe in some areas it is an untrue story we have been told
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Then can you be more specific (more so than above) and explain what, exactly, is wrong?
 
untrue, as in explanations given are false, or untrue as in things have not been addressed, and hence not explained to you?

TAM
 
pdoherty76 said:
by the way my use of the word fairy tale is hyperbole i admit. But I believe in some areas it is an untrue story we have been told
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I'm afraid you haven't been sufficiently clear on your position, or your supporting evidence for us to have a serious discussion. Could you please elaborate?
 
the 911 report described the core as a hollow steel shaft. i dont know what did that to the beams thats why im asking. I didnt expect them to fall at any speed because I didnt expect them to fall atall but in a progressive collapse with resistance from lower floors i would have expected something different from what i saw. see? u have started already by claiming that you doubt i will be happy. If everything is explained i will be
 
time for me to leave i think. I was totally right in my prediction. my offer still stands of a real debate with one of u
 
pdoherty, could I ask you to please direct your responses to specific points and posters? I am rather confused by who and what you are responding to in your posts. If possible, please use the "quote" button on the post you wish to respond to so we can understand who and what you are addressing.
 
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