Those disgraceful truthers at it again

bwinwright said:
It is, after all, totally ridiculous to believe that George W. Bush and our government could have possibly been involved in this horrid crime.
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Glad to see you have come to your sense. Happy Monday.
 
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You must make some attempt to address the post. Simple name-calling is against the MA.
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johnny karate said:
Can someone tell me if a point was buried anywhere in the OP? I tried to read it, but I nodded off.
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The point is the extremely well-established one that "truthers" lie constantly, never get anything right, and are hopelessly wedded to their stupid, thoroughly debunked myths.
 
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Granted, the jerk who started this thread is a nitwit, a fool. The thing that gets to me is that he thinks he's being ironic. He mindlessly bleats all the stupid lies that have been smashed to bits hundreds of times over the years, and he thinks he's revealing new, damning information that will shake us to our cores. How can people be so clueless and dumb?

FineWine (and others) - stick to attacking the argument, and not the person making the argument, please.
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BenBurch said:
Bush, being a man of very low intelligence further damaged by heavy drinking, is prone to confabulation. :D

Next question?
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I'm shocked that the Democrats in 2004 nominated a man whose IQ was lower than Bush's. This statement is intended to be funny, and to convey the idea that I am really shocked.
 
In an obvious attempt too dispute the charge that 911 cult minions are crazy, this little attempted performance (the op) only helped confirm that they are completely crazy...
 
The only thing even close to having a basis in reality is that Mr. Roberts inadvertently said that the FDNY had decided to "pull" WTC 7 while he was at Ground Zero, "debating" Alex Jones and his ilk.

He even admits he slipped-up:
MR: No you don’t. He said they decided to pull the building and then we watched it come down.
[Ha! I screwed up there and said “pull the building.” That’s what I get for listening to the CTs blow that line every time!]
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Otherwise...

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tuc0 said:
Gooood night - ding ding ding ding ding

Gooood night - ding ding ding ding ding

Five, Four, Three, Two, One, ZERO!
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/me puts both hands up to sides of his head, and waggles fingers while making high pitched noises.
 
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Dave Rogers said:
I'll just take a shot at answering the points the OP appears to be raising, because someone should.



The allegation in paragraph 1 is that President Bush was aware in advance of the plans to fly airliners into the Twin Towers because he claimed to have seen flight 11 hit WTC1 on television, something he could not possibly have seen. This requires that Bush, after three months' careful consideration of the options open to him, then made this claim in public, knowing that it could not possibly be believed and that it would expose his role in the conspiracy. While many of us believe GWB to be quite idiotic enough to have done such a thing, a simpler explanation is that he simply conflated his memories of the day.

Paragraph 2 is meaningless drivel.



The allegation in paragraph 3 is that the collapse of WTC7 could not have been due to fire and impact damage from debris falling from WTC1 and must therefore have been a controlled demolition using explosives. This is disproved by the fact that no sufficiently loud report was heard at the time of the collapse. Suggestions that the building was destroyed using thermite are utterly groundless, as no means of demolishing buildings using thermite is or ever has been known.

Paragraphs 4 and 5 are deliberate lies about a current member of the JREF forums. Mark Roberts has never suggested any such thing, nor made any statements that could reasonably be misinterpreted to mean any such thing.

Paragraph 6 is more meaningless drivel.



These are good examples of what is known as the Sacred List fallacy, the assumption that a single official record of an event is more trustworthy than the totality of all other evidence concerning the event. A couple of observations:

Both UA175 and UA93 are listed on the BoT logs, whereas AA11 and AA77 are not. Clearly this is not, therefore, some feature common to the flights destroyed on 9/11. Since the BoT logs are necessarily based on returns from the airlines, it appears that AA and UA have different criteria for reporting a flight for logging; if, for example, UA reported flights at departure and AA reported flights at arrival, this would constitute a perfectly reasonable and non-conspiratorial origin for the discrepancy. In any case, it is hardly unusual for official records to contain errors.

Concerning the tail number registration, this is not the only instance where the registration of a destroyed airplane has not been deleted. Again, it is hardly unusual for official records to contain errors.



Finally, this paragraph is a heavy-handed attempt at satirising a non-existent position on the part of those who, having examined the evidence available, have come to the conclusion that not only were the 9/11 attacks conducted by al-Qaeda, but it is blindingly obvious that they were. My personal feeling is that the Bush administration is probably rather more likely than any other recent US administration to have attempted such an act, but that the evidence is overwhelmingly against it.

Although the OP is a mixture of lies, sneering, credulity and denial, it should be noted that this is by no means unusual for the truth movement.

Dave
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For the honest truthseekers (small "t") who are unregistered and/or lurkers, I salute you, Dave Rogers. :th:
 
The leaders of The Empire of the City orchestrated 9/11. Anyone who takes the time to research the history of the Jesuits and the history of the Rothschild Banking Dynasty over the past 200 years will know all they need to know about 9/11.
 
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