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This kid has no conscience

Well, yes, it was actually. The mindset that shows such demonisation of the criminals is from the same melting-pot as the mindset that committed the murder in the first place.

Messed-up kid commits horrendous atrocity because of utter lack of comprehension that other people are people too. Address that, and there will be fewer murders for the righteous to get vindictive about in the first place.

Rolfe.
 
Well, yes, it was actually. The mindset that shows such demonisation of the criminals is from the same melting-pot as the mindset that committed the murder in the first place.

One of the most stupid things I have ever heard. No joke.
 
There was something on the news today about an initiative to instil empathy in school-age children. Sounds like the USA could do with a dose of that.

Rolfe.

Will they beat it into them?

I have visions of a teacher with a belt, screaming "You will become a caring individual!"

Seriously, I don't think it's a bad thing, but will it make any difference to children from an abusive environment? There's a limit to what school can do with pupils from dysfunctional homes, but perhaps that should be for another thread. And then again, I'm pretty sure we were taught at school about sharing, co-operation, etc.
 
Will they beat it into them?

I have visions of a teacher with a belt, screaming "You will become a caring individual!"

Hey, it worked for me.

Seriously, I don't think it's a bad thing, but will it make any difference to children from an abusive environment? There's a limit to what school can do with pupils from dysfunctional homes, but perhaps that should be for another thread. And then again, I'm pretty sure we were taught at school about sharing, co-operation, etc.

But seriously, it's true that there is a limit to what a school can do, but that doesn't mean we've already reached that limit.

Also, I believe attempting to instill empathy is not the same thing as teaching about sharing and co-operation; it's about teaching the children to understand how other people feel, not simply to make compromises.

A family member of mine is a teacher working mainly with children with learnings impairment. Several of her students have Asperger symptoms, which means they often are somewhat lacking in empathy. She told me of a particular student who had the habit of pulling the hats from other student's heads during recess; obviously, the others didn't like this very much. The teacher took the student aside and drew pictures of the situation with thought bubbles over the student's heads, and then filled them together with the student.

One bubble said "It's really fun pulling hats off" while the other said "What is he doing? I'm scared!". The student was very surprised, asking if that was really what the other person was thinking. As a result, this particular misbehaviour of the student disappeared almost completely.

Of course, teaching average students is not quite so simple a matter, but the anecdote led me to believe that it is possible to teach empathy, or at least emphatic thinking. I believe it would be an excellent idea to add something similar to normal school curricula.
 
The bit of the article I read involved mothers bringing small babies into class, and asking the children to imagine what the babies were thinking.

Rolfe.
 
The bit of the article I read involved mothers bringing small babies into class, and asking the children to imagine what the babies were thinking.

Rolfe.

Exactly like what I was thinking of.

The problem with this, of course is that it's practically impossible to measure whether or not such education does anything. It's unlikely it will immediately lead to a drastic drop in bullying and schoolyard violence, and any statistics about future crime can't really be reliably traced back to this. But it's a good idea, at least.
 
Anecdotic, and not exactly at school, but I’ve had excellent results with a number of devilish spawns of Attilla the Hun overexuberant teenagers by explaining that it would be very easy for me to beat, belittle and make fun of them based on our comparative abilities and strength (I teach kendo. The great part is that you can actually hit your students with a stick while screaming in their face), and would they please stop bullying, teasing, and otherwise discouraging the beginners or smaller players. The father of one of those little darlings asked me how I managed to make him change his ways with his little sister …
 
You can tell this by looking at a picture of him? Have you applied for the MDC?

I didn't see any picture (my work access is unix/lynx).
I was describing his behavior.
Nothing he did seemed like the work of even average intelligence.
 
Well, yes, it was actually. The mindset that shows such demonisation of the criminals is from the same melting-pot as the mindset that committed the murder in the first place.

Messed-up kid commits horrendous atrocity because of utter lack of comprehension that other people are people too. Address that, and there will be fewer murders for the righteous to get vindictive about in the first place.

Rolfe.
No dice rolfe. I believe in justice and fair trials and the punishment fitting the crime. I really and sincerely believe this kid should never be released from prison if he lives in a state that doesn''t have execution for first degree cold blooded murder.

There is nothing similar in my mindset to the mindset of this worthless murderer or any other criminal.
 

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