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There are truly no atheists in foxholes

JadeStonesFromSaturn said:
It's all about taking advantage of the weak and powerless.
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Indeed, and it's quite stomach churning if you ask me.

Religions have had that game mastered for millennia. Me thinks Greer think his "nature spirituality" will become quite the fad once his worldview of a collapse of industrial civilization happens.
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If it were to happen that way it would be another religious war as all the religions turn on each other, fight each other for new members, forcibly convert all they can of their competitors and wipe out the rest.
 
Mudcat said:
If it were to happen that way it would be another religious war as all the religions turn on each other, fight each other for new members, forcibly convert all they can of their competitors and wipe out the rest.
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That's what makes me laugh. This hypothetical "return" to spirituality won't be the liberal tolerant society that we've grown accustomed to in the West. It's not going to be some interfaith society where differences of religion, race, nationality, sexuality, gender, etc. are respected. It's one of inter religious warfare, with the winner throwing the loser religions and demonized minorities into the funerary pyres, quite literally.
 
TFian said:
For which claims?
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Any of them.


Tfian said:
Oh? How so?
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Both literally and metaphorically. Greer uses it merely as a metaphor, so you can't legitimately complain that I do so, too. I'm atheist. I've been in combat. I didn't pray or even begin to be tempted to believe in a deity. There are many others in the same vein here.


Tfian said:
We've reached the peak in petroleum production in the US back in the 70s...
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Put your goalposts back, please. Greer wasn't referencing peak US production.
 
JadeStonesFromSaturn said:
That's what makes me laugh. This hypothetical "return" to spirituality won't be the liberal tolerant society that we've grown accustomed to in the West. It's not going to be some interfaith society where differences of religion, race, nationality, sexuality, gender, etc. are respected. It's one of inter religious warfare, with the winner throwing the loser religions and demonized minorities into the funerary pyres, quite literally.
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No, they would never do that. Those were, uhhh, other religions and churches.
 
TFian said:
As the Grand Archdruid of the Ancient Order of Druids in America, John Michael Greer says,



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Given this piece of reality, can atheism truly be societal productive, and if not, should we not discourage it's proliferation and encourage a return to spirituality instead?
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Druids are just as full of crap as any other religion. Doesn't mean I hate or even dislike them, but their opinions on certain areas of science and on political situations do not tend to influence me. Also, you do, I hope, realize that this person is saying that we should all fake believing in ancient, mostly harmful gods because times are tough (I hope you don't think he is saying anything supportive of the one the US mostly gets all hot and bothered about).
 
JadeStonesFromSaturn said:
They all do it though. Even what many consider to be "peaceful" religions have some history of doing so, such as Buddhism.
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Yeah, you're right. I was just giving the typical fundie response to the statement. ;)

Sorry, I sometimes forget that sarcasm doesn't always convey through the internet.
 
bozman said:
Yeah, you're right. I was just giving the typical fundie response to the statement. ;)

Sorry, I sometimes forget that sarcasm doesn't always convey through the internet.
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That's what the :sarcasm: tag is for :cool:
 
The OP in incorrect. I am an atheist and I have served in combat to include taking fire. I have never prayed nor have I questioned my atheism.
 
Craig4 said:
The OP in incorrect. I am an atheist and I have served in combat to include taking fire. I have never prayed nor have I questioned my atheism.
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Funny, according to the OP, you cannot possibly exist.
 
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