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dafydd said:
Gordon Bennett, I don't believe it! LOL and yet more LOL. It was meant to be gibberish. Do try and keep up.
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If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck and has a beak its gibberish. What ever reason you give to say its not a duck.
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
Whats exactly the "woo" in Zen?

It is just than you and a bunch of other members, appear to have zero understanding about what is a philosophical discussion, calling it a "word salad".
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Woo Zen, like all the other woos are are any ideas which don't fit the skeptical/critical thinking remit.

You just have to ignore the woo skeptics and look for the posters who are actually interested in a discussion.
 
punshhh said:
If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck and has a beak its gibberish. What ever reason you give to say its not a duck.
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It's 'It's'. That was deliberate gibberish on my part. Post some of my alleged gibberish from another thread. And once again you miss getting the point by a country mile.
 
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punshhh said:
Woo Zen, like all the other woos are are any ideas which don't fit the skeptical/critical thinking remit.

You just have to ignore the woo skeptics and look for the posters who are actually interested in a discussion.
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The discussion would have to include a thing called proof. Mystics don't do proof.
 
Dancing David said:
My POV is that it is moot, and therefore we can go with appearances, regardless of the phenomenology. So while it may be godthought, butterfly dreams, dancing energy or BIVs, the end result is the same.
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Not necessarily.
 
Dancing David said:
The flsshlight of enlightnement is my phrase, usually when I am rude and accuse people of casing into it
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I'm not sure the fleshlight offers much in terms of enlightenment. (I'm not posting a link from work. You can do your own googling, if you need to)
 
punshhh said:
Proof is a rare beast outside maths.
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No. I can prove that an uncloudy daytime sky is blue by looking out of the window. I can prove that I can play the guitar by strumming a tune. There is no proof of the paranormal. Campfire stories are not proof no matter how many women look at you through a window.
 
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dafydd said:
Come off it, you all know which post it was.
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First, I am not "you all", I am just me. Second, I don't waste posts.

I suspect you're confused about the history, and are being defensive; either that, or I missed something. Either way, I certainly have no idea what you're talking about.
 
dafydd said:
No. I can prove that an uncloudy daytime sky is blue by looking out of the window. I can prove that I can play the guitar by strumming a tune. There is no proof of the paranormal. Campfire stories are not proof no matter how many women look at you through a window.
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And so, you now claim that Zen is "paranormal"? Excuse me for asking, have you grasped what Zen is about? You accuse people of making word salads when you don't understand, and everything indicates you are lost about what Zen is.
 
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