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There are 6,000 people in the Illuminati

Blue_Sargasso

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I'm not a big believer in conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty convinced that the vast majority people in the world are made to dance to the tune of a tiny group of rich and powerful people. It doesn't really matter what this small group is called. The Illuminati is as good a name as any other. In a book called Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They are Making, David Rothkopf asserts that the world is effectively ruled by 6,000 people. I'm quite happy to equate Rothkopf's 6,000 with the Illuminati. Let me give you an example of how the Illuminati work. What they do isn't sinister or illegal...and many of us might be tempted to behave in the same way in the same circumstances...but what they do is incredibly dangerous for the health of our society.

My example is English Premier League football, the richest football league in the world. Several clubs are owned by billionaires. Total income last year was an impressive £1.5 billion, but the total debts of the EPL were an astonishing £2.5 billion. The debts are almost entirely attributable to the staggering amounts of money paid to footballers, managers, agents and members of the board. There is talk that Ronaldhino may sign for Manchester City and be paid £200,000 per week i.e. £10 million per year i.e. £40 million for a 4-year contract. When other leading players hear of this, they will of course demand the same.... and they will get it, and clubs will become even poorer even though even more money is pouring into football from TV, media and advertising contracts.

My point is this. Very few people are involved in setting salaries for top people. These people claim they are merely paying the "market rate". But who sets this market rate? Is it you or I? Definitely not. No, the people who set the rate are precisely those who benefit directly from setting the market rate as high as possible, higher even than the amount of revenue they are taking in. The economics of the madhouse. But who can stop them paying themselves whatever they want? You? Me? We have no power at all. People in Wall Street and the City can pay themselves anything they like. Chief executives receive astounding salaries and when they get fired for gross incompetence and for causing billions of pounds of losses, they still walk away with eye-watering severance packages. How is this possible? It's because we have allowed a tiny number of people - the Illuminati - the Shining Ones - to immerse themselves in the most obscene greed. There are no mechanisms to rein them back. None at all. So the rich are just getting richer. And where does the money come from them that keeps feeding them? Well, from us, naturally. If we want to watch football on TV or go to live games, we have to pay more and more.

It's the anti-Robin Hood effect. The Illuminati take from the poor and give to the rich. That's what the "conspiracy" is. It's a cartel of rich people in powerful positions doing their utmost to feather their own beds and making sure that governments put no brakes on them. They can make and break presidents and prime ministers, so everyone is terrified of challenging them. The media works for them to promote their interests and relentlessly push the myth of their brilliance.

I'm totally sick of it. I feel like a total sucker. I came across a website by some bunch called The Meritocracy Party who completely hate the super rich. Isn't it time we started supporting political parties who are explicitly opposed to the Illuminati? I have no time at all for conventional political parties. They are completely under the power of the Illuminati. Someone somewhere has to stop the unparalleled greed of the Illuminati. And don't forget, we are the ones paying for it. Are we really that stupid? It's time to do something about it.
 
Your evidence of this conspiracy is the law of supply and demand? Have you taken an economics class yet?
 
Ummm... The Bavarian Illuminati become the Ordo Templi Orientis, or so one story goes. I believe that 6000 is a bit small for the order's membership, but they do not rule the planet. In fact, they have a really hard time ruling the order.

Now, there are some very powerful people on this planet, but what gives them that power, and which is their common interest they often band together to preserve, is merely wealth.

Its no more complex than that.
 
You know why rich people are rich? Because they make money. If you were making a million dollars every second, would that make you a member of the Illuminati?
 
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Well, I'm a member, and I don't have millions. Of course, I'm just in the junior auxilliary division, and have to wear a mascot costume. But hey, it's a living...
 
Do these 6000 people coincidentally all agree on the same issues? Is their some sort of chain of command? Sounds a little far fetched to me. Is there a magical number of income that I have to make and then I become a part of this elite group? I wonder what the initiation is to get into this elite 6000....
 
I'm not a big believer in conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty convinced that the vast majority people in the world are made to dance to the tune of a tiny group of rich and powerful people. It doesn't really matter what this small group is called. The Illuminati is as good a name as any other. In a book called Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They are Making, David Rothkopf asserts that the world is effectively ruled by 6,000 people. I'm quite happy to equate Rothkopf's 6,000 with the Illuminati. Let me give you an example of how the Illuminati work. What they do isn't sinister or illegal...and many of us might be tempted to behave in the same way in the same circumstances...but what they do is incredibly dangerous for the health of our society.

My example is English Premier League football, the richest football league in the world. Several clubs are owned by billionaires. Total income last year was an impressive £1.5 billion, but the total debts of the EPL were an astonishing £2.5 billion. The debts are almost entirely attributable to the staggering amounts of money paid to footballers, managers, agents and members of the board. There is talk that Ronaldhino may sign for Manchester City and be paid £200,000 per week i.e. £10 million per year i.e. £40 million for a 4-year contract. When other leading players hear of this, they will of course demand the same.... and they will get it, and clubs will become even poorer even though even more money is pouring into football from TV, media and advertising contracts.

My point is this. Very few people are involved in setting salaries for top people. These people claim they are merely paying the "market rate". But who sets this market rate? Is it you or I? Definitely not. No, the people who set the rate are precisely those who benefit directly from setting the market rate as high as possible, higher even than the amount of revenue they are taking in. The economics of the madhouse. But who can stop them paying themselves whatever they want? You? Me? We have no power at all. People in Wall Street and the City can pay themselves anything they like. Chief executives receive astounding salaries and when they get fired for gross incompetence and for causing billions of pounds of losses, they still walk away with eye-watering severance packages. How is this possible? It's because we have allowed a tiny number of people - the Illuminati - the Shining Ones - to immerse themselves in the most obscene greed. There are no mechanisms to rein them back. None at all. So the rich are just getting richer. And where does the money come from them that keeps feeding them? Well, from us, naturally. If we want to watch football on TV or go to live games, we have to pay more and more.

It's the anti-Robin Hood effect. The Illuminati take from the poor and give to the rich. That's what the "conspiracy" is. It's a cartel of rich people in powerful positions doing their utmost to feather their own beds and making sure that governments put no brakes on them. They can make and break presidents and prime ministers, so everyone is terrified of challenging them. The media works for them to promote their interests and relentlessly push the myth of their brilliance.

I'm totally sick of it. I feel like a total sucker. I came across a website by some bunch called The Meritocracy Party who completely hate the super rich. Isn't it time we started supporting political parties who are explicitly opposed to the Illuminati? I have no time at all for conventional political parties. They are completely under the power of the Illuminati. Someone somewhere has to stop the unparalleled greed of the Illuminati. And don't forget, we are the ones paying for it. Are we really that stupid? It's time to do something about it.

Sorry, all that seemed to come through there was paranoia and low-level impotent rage against those richer than you.
 
But who sets this market rate? Is it you or I? Definitely not.

That's it? That's your big "evidence" that 6000 people control everything in the entire world?

No, there is a much more realistic answer to the question of who sets market rates: Nobody. That's how capitalism works.

For instance, if cheese prices go up, the price of pizza will go down. Why is this? It is not because there is some powerful elite in control of the world's supply of pizza and cheese. It is because cheese and pizza are complementary goods--you can't have pizza without cheese. As cheese prices go up, the demand for cheese will drop, which in turn affects the prices of every product and service that is dependent upon cheese.

If you took even a high school level economics class, you would understand that the answer to "who sets this market rate" is nobody.
 

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