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The shadow outcome is a logical leap, anyone do the math?

I know math but it does not know me once the semester is over.
 
The humurous thing out of all this is no matter how stupid lyte and crew look, they still persist and say we are the deluded ones.
 
hellaeon said:
The shadow outcome is a logical leap, anyone do the math?

I know math but it does not know me once the semester is over.
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From the angle and altitude of the sun (41 degrees) alone, we can tell that the path of the shadow of the plane should be displaced from the plane's path by about 1.61 times the altitude of the plane above ground, in a direction 35 degrees north of due west.

Now I need to figure a scale for that map (which should be easy), and reasonable estimates of the ground clearance of the plane (more specifically, its height above the Citgo's elevation) along the official flight path.

It looks like it might go right over the Citgo, just as Russell figured it in that LCF thread he referenced. But a few feet could make a big difference there, if the ground was briefly darkened on one side of the station but not the other.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
25 tactics of disinfo...if these 25 are accurate, than the entire 9/11 truth movement are disinfo agents. For brevity, here they are paraphrased...

1. Hear No Evil - if it wasnt reported officially, it didnt happen.
2. Act Indignified ("How dare you say such a thing")
3. Rumor Mongering (Belittle the vailidity of a point by questioning the source)
4. Strawman
5. Name Calling and Ridicule (PDoh, 28th, shall I continue)
6. Hit and Run (Truthseeker, Geggy, Iggy, shall I go on)
7. Question Motives ("you are all govt shills" ring a bell)
8. Invoke Authority (claim to be an expert when you are not...oh my the list of truthers I could put in this one)
9. Play dumb (with the truthers, who is playing)
10. Old News (take all new evidence and where possible link it to an old, well looked at issue that has been debunked)
11. Fake Confess (admit mistakes to minimize them - umm...Korey Rowe confession on errors in LC ring a bell).
12. Too complex (ok i read the explanation for how this is a disinfo tactic, and it is just a way to cop out of the fact that some things are too complex to explain simply).
13. False Logic (The tactic the truth movement was built on)
14. Not Enough - Demand complete explanation (both sides guilty of this)
15. Twist Facts (to fit the theory - oh boy where have I seen that happen before!!)
16. Lack of evidence or witnesses (Vanished) - umm if this is a disinfo tactic than I guess I am guilty, as I demand evidence.
17. Change the subject (Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, this is truther mantra)
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, Goad (both parties guilty)
19. Impposible evidence standards (high standards yes, but not impossible. I have not seen anyone here demand the impossible from a CTer)
20. False Evidence (like intentional errors, cohersed Citgo witnesses...hmmm)
21. Subvert (um I am not sure how disinfo AGENTS would do this)
22. Manufacture a new truth or EXPERTS (umm...scholars for 9/11 truth ring any bells)
23. Create Bigger Distractions (Thermite not working, how about Star Wars Beam Weapons...lol)
24. Silence critics (Maddox theory proves that if there disinfo agents, they arent in the business of silencing critics, as DA, JB, KR, AJ are all still alive).
25. Vanish (yes, when was the last time a JREFer Vanished).

Now see, I think the CTers, the truth movement members are the disinfo agents, as they clearly fit almost all of the above....would you not agree?

TAM
 
Based on some of Lyte's ravings today it would be great if somebody here could get to DC and find south of the Citgo witnesses. Then interview them right where they were at the time and visually demonstrate what they saw happen and testify what side of the Citgo they remember the plane on.

I wonder if there would be more than three that were not under a canopy?
 
Russell Pickering said:
Based on some of Lyte's ravings today it would be great if somebody here could get to DC and find south of the Citgo witnesses. Then interview them right where they were at the time and visually demonstrate what they saw happen and testify what side of the Citgo they remember the plane on.

I wonder if there would be more than three that were not under a canopy?
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Do you really think there's a need to? I mean- is that your criteria?

Is such a requirement reasonable?
 
Russell Pickering said:
Based on some of Lyte's ravings today it would be great if somebody here could get to DC and find south of the Citgo witnesses. Then interview them right where they were at the time and visually demonstrate what they saw happen and testify what side of the Citgo they remember the plane on.

I wonder if there would be more than three that were not under a canopy?
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WOW you mean Lyte lost it AGAIN?
SHOCKING!!

My favorite quote from the deluded paranoid one:

Are you really suggesting that in a black operation of this magnitude....that we should expect normal crime statistics to apply??
Are you really suggesting that we should accept government controlled physical evidence over honest American citizens?
Physical evidence trumps eyewitness testimony yeah yeah whatever.
Sure..... that might be the case when the physical evidence isn't controlled by the perpetrators!
I feel like any minute you're going to be pulling out debate tactic calls like "strawman" and "red herring" and "poppers law of falsifiability".
If you could only hear how much you sound like an unreasonable jrefer.
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Lyte Trip said:
You know damn well that Bobert posted that info.


How else would you have known those were my work numbers?

Why are you lying and spreading presonal information about me?
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Great! Hey, guys, the video's out!
Where is it opening, Lyte? That is today, isn't it? You said you wouldn't be back till it was done and out.
Or was that just another Lie from the minds at JustSayNotoEducation, inc?
 
Lyte Trip said:
Then how did you know it was my work info?

You have already told the entire forum that you have had many PM's with bobert.
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Enough with the paranoia.

Why don't you get back to releasing your vid instead of playing around here.
 
I can't wait to see what excuse they come up with for not releasing the movie...
 
Myriad said:
From the angle and altitude of the sun (41 degrees) alone, we can tell that the path of the shadow of the plane should be displaced from the plane's path by about 1.61 times the altitude of the plane above ground, in a direction 35 degrees north of due west.

Now I need to figure a scale for that map (which should be easy), and reasonable estimates of the ground clearance of the plane (more specifically, its height above the Citgo's elevation) along the official flight path.

It looks like it might go right over the Citgo, just as Russell figured it in that LCF thread he referenced. But a few feet could make a big difference there, if the ground was briefly darkened on one side of the station but not the other.
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Okay, next steps accomplished. Measuring from known reference points on the images to establish a scale, it appears that the point where the plane's ground position would have been directly between the sun's azimuth and the Citgo's position was about 1300 feet from the impact point at the Pentagon along the plane's trajectory, and about 390 feet from the center of the Citgo canopy along the sun's-azimuth line.

The plane, however, based on all available information about the trajectory, couldn't have been much higher than about 135 feet at that point. Which would leave the center of its shadow about 175 feet SOUTH of the Citgo.

Oh, well, it was an interesting theory but the evidence just doesn't...

Hey, wait a minute. For a moment I forgot what forum this is!

This EVIDENCE I've uncovered is the SMOKING GUN that PROVES NASA used GIANT SPACE MIRRORS to CHANGE THE APPARENT POSITION OF THE SUN on 9/11! Probably they needed a lower sun angle to make the illusion work, when they concealed the flyover of the eleven small planes, after setting off the Pentagon bombs and the light post cutting charges. Yes, I said ELEVEN planes, they flew in a close formation -- 5 in line for the "fuselage," 2 more on each side in a wide V for the "wings," and 2 side by side in the back for the "tail") to create the appearance of one large jetliner, and they SCATTERED after the flyover which is why no one noticed them, everyone was expecting to see a jetliner ha ha, plus they had the giant space mirror covering for them. Even Lyte didn't figure this out, I've scooped his video before it's even released ha ha!!! (Speaking of which, this week ends in about 30 hours, tick, tick...) Wait until MY video comes out, it's called EclipSINg the Truth. The script is almost finished and it will be released in 3,000 theaters next week! It will blow the lid off of the massive government conspiracy to enslave Americans by moving astronomical bodies around! No one will be able to refute my SHADOW EVIDENCE!!!

...

Ick.

Why did I do that?

It was fun but now I feel all dirty.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
What Lyte is leaving out is that he gave my personal info to that psycho Merc.
Merc then made threats towards my son and family.
Merc and I both live in OC and I have given that psycho an open invitation to meet me man to man and make threats towards my son.
Lyte reaps what he sows.
 
rwguinn said:
Great! Hey, guys, the video's out!
Where is it opening, Lyte? That is today, isn't it? You said you wouldn't be back till it was done and out.
Or was that just another Lie from the minds at JustSayNotoEducation, inc?
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It is not worth watching. The witnesses debunk the video they are filmed in.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2368547&postcount=63

My commentary, as I was fool enough to watch the whole useless thing.

Lyte, you have a lot of lying to answer for.

DR
 
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