ThePentaCON releases trailer

~enigma~ said:
Yes but it is fun watching him twist himself into gordian knots he can't get out of.
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I often indulge in the guilty pleasure of schadenfreude when I see the deniers destroy their own arguments, but when that involves disparaging the victims, I don't think it's fun. It sickens me.
 
Lyte Trip said:
NOBODY directly contradicts them.

ALL citgo witnesses claim the same thing and nobody else directly contradicts them by definitively placing the plane on the south side of the station.
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Yes, they do. There are many quotes which have already been referenced for you- in addition to the scientific data and physical evidence.

Your only response to this contradiction has been to go back and forth between claiming it's not a contradiction- to it is a contradiction but somehow the arguments of 4 people will be so convincing that we will all drop the scientific explanation and physical data and rally with these 4 people against the other hundred witnesses, US Government, science, and truth.

Down with truth?
 
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Another page, still no answers to my questions.

Lyte,

Why are you ignoring the mountain of physical evidence that supports the official story?

Why are you taking eyewitness testimony over physical evidence? Physical evidence > eyewitness testimony.

If the physical evidence was falsified or planted, please provide evidence of this. If not, answer the two questions above.
 
Lyte Trip said:
The level of corroboration is so high that there is virtually no possibility they are wrong.

This quote from our script describes the reasons why this testimony is so particularly strong:

6) The extreme magnitude of the event being something that is virtually impossible to forget.

Number 6 is an important one. Ask yourself where you were on 9/11. Virtually everyone remembers in detail where they were, what they did, and how they felt on that day.
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And how many people accurately remember where they were and what they did? Show evidence.
 
Lyte Trip said:
There is no way you will be able to deny the north of the citgo claim without calling multiple people liars or insane.
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You are wrong. I expect there to be variation between the accounts of witnesses who you are asking to describe the position of an object in the air that was moving at 777 feet per second, five years ago.

You and the other deniers are the only ones who calls the witnesses liars.

You are ill, Craig. Please get help.
 
Lyte Trip said:
NOBODY directly contradicts them.
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Ahem...

ihaunter said:
Am I on ignore? I went through all that trouble of simplifying 3 of the arguments against him, and he acts like I didn't even post.

Lyte Trip, you keep saying how no eyewitnesses directly contradict your eyewitnesses. what about indirectly? There are around 100 that put the plane on a flight path that is completely inconsistent with your proposed flight path. Not to mention all the physical evidence.

PHYSICAL EVIDENCE BEATS EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY
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Yo Lyte Trip...this requires an answer.

~enigma~ said:
Let's for a second assume that you are right and the witnesses will be subpoenaed to a grand jury. You will be subpoenaed to a court trail asking why you withheld this evidence in a criminal case from the time of the interviews until the time you release your video. How would you answer so that you aren't found guilty of withholding evidence?
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~enigma~ said:
C'mon Lyte...answer this...
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Haha!

How awesome.

I would gladly submit myself to the new "powers that be" as the old oligarchy stands trial as a result of my "crime"!

Thanks for helping to materialize this by forcing it out in discussion!
 
Lyte Trip said:
Haha!

How awesome.

I would gladly submit myself to the new "powers that be" as the old oligarchy stands trial as a result of my "crime"!

Thanks for helping to materialize this by forcing it out in discussion!
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Question is what would you say...answer the question.
 
avoidance of questions asked over 20 times through this thread noted.

Lyte, come back when you have answers. stop posturing.
 
Lyte Trip said:
I would gladly submit myself to the new "powers that be" as the old oligarchy stands trial as a result of my "crime"!
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How are you so sure that these "powers that be" won't be the very same people you accuse of having done this?
 
Ten witnesses who saw the Pentagon plane hit the street lights

Mark Bright contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO (bright, shiny object):

Mark Bright said:
"I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down."
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D.S. Khavkin contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

D.S. Khavkin said:
First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles, then headed directly for the Pentagon and crashed on the lawn near the west side the Pentagon.
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Stephen McGraw contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Stephen McGraw said:
"The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. I saw it crash into the building,"
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Mary Ann Owens contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Mary Ann Owens said:
Street lights toppled as the plane barely cleared the Interstate 395 overpass.
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Wanda Ramey contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Wanda Ramey said:
Ramey stood at the Mall plaza booth when she saw a low-flying airplane. "I saw the wing of the plane clip the light post, and it made the plane slant. Then the engine revved up and crashed into the west side of the building,"
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Steve Rickus contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

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It knocked over a few light poles in its way.
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Noel Sepulveda contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Noel Sepulveda said:
The plane’s right wheel struck a light pole, causing it to fly at a 45-degree angle, he said. The plane tried to recover, but hit a second light pole and continued flying at an angle. "You could hear the engines being revved up even higher," Sepulveda said. The plane dipped its nose and crashed into the southwest side of the Pentagon.
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Mike Walter contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Mike Walter said:
"...it turned and came around in front of the vehicle and it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there."
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Rodney Washington contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Rodney Washington said:
The plane was flying low and rapidly descended, Washington said, knocking over light poles before hitting the ground on a helicopter pad just in front of the Pentagon and essentially bouncing into it.
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Afework Hagos contradicts your north-of-the-Citgo BSO:

Afework Hagos said:
It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.
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That is ten people who saw the plane hit the street lights, ten people with a direct physical marker of where the plane's flight path was.

Your witnesses are mistaken. Your movie is a farce. You are wrong.

http://www.geocities.com/someguyyoudontknow33/witnesses.htm
 
Lyte Trip said:
None of the witnesses that were in a position to tell contradict the north of the citgo claim.
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How many witnesses who were in a position to see the light pole evidence being planted did you interview? How many of them saw the light pole evidence being planted?

You know a prosecutor would have to listen to such witnesses before conviening your hypothetical grand jury. Want to rethink your claims of a new investigation yet?
 
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~enigma~ said:
Let's for a second assume that you are right and the witnesses will be subpoenaed to a grand jury. You will be subpoenaed to a court trail asking why you withheld this evidence in a criminal case from the time of the interviews until the time you release your video. How would you answer so that you aren't found guilty of withholding evidence?
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Hi all, just dropped by to have a sticky beak.

Further to enigma's question...
What if the Govt pulled off another false flag operation whilst you have been putting together your "movie"?
Couldn't this have been prevented if you had released the evidence after it was established?
 
Gravy said:
You are wrong. I expect there to be variation between the accounts of witnesses who you are asking to describe the position of an object in the air that was moving at 777 feet per second, five years ago.
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But there is no variation.

ALL of the witnesses at the citgo say the same thing!

And emphatically.

And they point it out for you on location.

And they draw it for you on the famous image that we have been reposting.

And they laugh at the notion that anyone would suggest otherwise.

You will be forced to call them all liars or insane or accept that 9/11 was an inside job.

It is quite compelling.
 
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