Merged Theory links Newtonian/Quantum the amazing Frank Znidarsic

[dafydd]

I knew it. Should have placed a bet on that one...

Every truther argument has been totally debunked here.It gets boring. Nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

 

[dafydd]

Take it to the 9/11 sub-forum, where a whole bunch of us will be more than happy to explain to you how idiotic the above rant is.

Dave

Again.

 

[dafydd]

Please explain why there can be gravity from neutrinos.

Lol,you come here pontificating about science and you know nothing about neutrinos.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Who were the 'Chief Scientists for NASA and the DOE'?

 

[ben m]

Who were the 'Chief Scientists for NASA and the DOE'?

I would make a comment. This "conference" is organized by Glen Robertson, who also coauthored FAZ's talk and two other talks. So this isn't "acceptance into a conference shows that this isn't a crackpot", nor is it even "a crackpot snuck past the conference committee". It's "the conference organizer is a crackpot and invites whoever he wants."

Robertson's fancy-sounding organization, IAS-SPES, appears to be run out of a suburban Alabama home---which, not surprisingly, is also the headquarters of "Gravi Atomic Research". Imagine that! Two independent physics research centers in the same house! IAS-SPES publishes its finances, which consist of nothing but the $44K income from running this conference, minus the $20K expense of running ... this conference. Geez, I wonder what the registration fee was?

It's funny, too, that FAZ's session is chaired by another person affiliated only with an obscure foundation---Valone's "Integrity Research Institute" is, like IAS-SPES, basically a web page's worth of crackpottery ranging from cold-fusion to Tesla to "electrogravitics" (which is what they seem to be calling "lifters".) And the cochair is, amazingly, ANOTHER obscure-foundation affiliate, this time with "Energetics Technology, LLC" whose mission is to apply for grants to study Podkletnov's gravity-shielding.

 

[fznidarsic]

Yes the conference had faults

The proceedings of the conference were rejected by the AIP. The conference lost many speakers due to this. Notably Martin Tjimar of the ESU was not there this year. I enjoyed meeting him last year. The natural healing group was invited to make up for the lost presenters. It detracted from the conference.

Never the less it was a place to start looking at ways forward in addressing some of the most difficult problems the confront our society and the planet.

Dave Goodwin Chief Scientist from the DOE was at my lecture. I believe that Chief Scientst Langley of NASA was also there. Dr. George Miley and I met for supper. They all have my papers. Obama wants answers. I gave them one. I hope things start to progress more rapidly.

Tune into my radio show on April 12 for a review of what is going on.


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as before add the www

I am trying to make a difference. For those of you who stomp me, Do you have any better ideas?

Frank Znidarsic

 

[Chronopolitan]

New look at THIS!!!

http://www.newscientist.com/article...-at-fermilab-hints-at-technicolour-force.html

"The physics world is buzzing with news of an unexpected sighting at Fermilab's Tevatron collider in Illinois – a glimpse of an unidentified particle that, should it prove to be real, will radically alter physicists' prevailing ideas about how nature works and how particles get their mass."

Maybe we already used this force in "Cold Fusion" or "Anti Gravity"!

Let's hope there's some new inspiration for real physics.

 

[Dancing David]

And maybe it will fall out as a new type of a known force, or it won't be replicated. Have you read : Strange Beauty: Murray Gell-Mann and the Revolution in Twentieth-Century Physics ?

It is somewhat sensationalized but it discusses how the process could just involve a new layer to particles.

ETA: the collsion energies at Fermilab are way beyond the energy of possible cold fusion claims.

 

[JCM]

The proceedings of the conference were rejected by the AIP. The conference lost many speakers due to this. Notably Martin Tjimar of the ESU was not there this year. I enjoyed meeting him last year. The natural healing group was invited to make up for the lost presenters. It detracted from the conference.

Never the less it was a place to start looking at ways forward in addressing some of the most difficult problems the confront our society and the planet.

Dave Goodwin Chief Scientist from the DOE was at my lecture. I believe that Chief Scientst Langley of NASA was also there. Dr. George Miley and I met for supper. They all have my papers. Obama wants answers. I gave them one. I hope things start to progress more rapidly.

Tune into my radio show on April 12 for a review of what is going on.


.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chaptere.html

as before add the www

I am trying to make a difference. For those of you who stomp me, Do you have any better ideas?

Frank Znidarsic

Thanks for the show link and the video Frank. I hope the skeptics here can be a resource to refine your theories. They are intriguing and I am sorry for having butchered them here. Like someone said earlier with friends like these....

I would make a comment. This "conference" is organized by Glen Robertson, who also coauthored FAZ's talk and two other talks. So this isn't "acceptance into a conference shows that this isn't a crackpot", nor is it even "a crackpot snuck past the conference committee". It's "the conference organizer is a crackpot and invites whoever he wants."

Robertson's fancy-sounding organization, IAS-SPES, appears to be run out of a suburban Alabama home---which, not surprisingly, is also the headquarters of "Gravi Atomic Research". Imagine that! Two independent physics research centers in the same house! IAS-SPES publishes its finances, which consist of nothing but the $44K income from running this conference, minus the $20K expense of running ... this conference. Geez, I wonder what the registration fee was?

It's funny, too, that FAZ's session is chaired by another person affiliated only with an obscure foundation---Valone's "Integrity Research Institute" is, like IAS-SPES, basically a web page's worth of crackpottery ranging from cold-fusion to Tesla to "electrogravitics" (which is what they seem to be calling "lifters".) And the cochair is, amazingly, ANOTHER obscure-foundation affiliate, this time with "Energetics Technology, LLC" whose mission is to apply for grants to study Podkletnov's gravity-shielding.

Being serious scientists, I doubt Dave Goodwin and Dr. George Miley would involve themselves with nonsense at least not in their own fields. I don't known about his acquaintances, but I don't see Frank as doing this for money

 

[dafydd]

http://www.newscientist.com/article...-at-fermilab-hints-at-technicolour-force.html

"The physics world is buzzing with news of an unexpected sighting at Fermilab's Tevatron collider in Illinois – a glimpse of an unidentified particle that, should it prove to be real, will radically alter physicists' prevailing ideas about how nature works and how particles get their mass."

Maybe we already used this force in "Cold Fusion" or "Anti Gravity"!

Let's hope there's some new inspiration for real physics.

What would you know about real physics?

 

[fznidarsic]

I thought my radio show went well.

add the www
angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chaptere.html

A caller from Buffalo mentioned my work on Coast to Coast. I thank him.

groups.yahoo.com/group/NewWorldOrderWhistleBlowers2/message/48636

I make no money on any of this stuff. Glen Robertson just broke even on this years conference.

Frank Z

 

[MattusMaximus]

I thought Lane's youtube video explained why 1/r² was instead 1/r but I am not sure maybe it is a mistake

Around a point charge, the electric field strength varies as 1/r² and the electrical potential & electrical potential energy vary as 1/r. Not only is the mathematics different, one is a vector quantity while the other two are scalars - that is a fundamental & important difference.

Any competent physicist worth their salt will not mix these things up

 

[JCM]

Who were the 'Chief Scientists for NASA and the DOE'?

Mr. Robertson and Mr. Goodwin.

I would make a comment. This "conference" is organized by Glen Robertson,

Here is his bio listing credentials.

NASA - Aerospace Engineer:
From Jan 1987 - Present, Mr. Robertson has been performing research and development tasks for NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama as an Aerospace engineer,

Inventions:
Piezoelectrostatic Generator, US Patent # 4,952,836
Electromagnetic Meissner Effect Launcher, US Patent # 5,017,549
Bladder Operated Robotic Joint, US Patent # 5,245,885
Spiral Fluid Separator, US Patent # 5,248,421
Pressure-Driven Magnetically Coupled Conveyance, US Patent # 6,170,404 B1 (Magnetic Launcher Concept)

NASA Tech Brief Articles:
Piezoelectric Power Generator - March 1989
Electromagnetic Meissner Effect Launcher - March 1989
Meissner Stepping Motor - February 1990
Meissner Bearing - October 1992
Spiral Fluid Separator - November 1992
Robotic Bladder Joint - Apr 1993
Permanent Magnet Launcher - Apr 1994
Five Channel Polychromator Head - Apr 1994
Collapsible Geostrut Structure - November 1994
Fabrication of Bulk High Temperature Superconductors using Ba(NO3)2 in the Precursor Mixture - May 2000
Pressure-Driven Magnetically-Coupled Conveyance - September 2000

 

[ben m]

Mr. Robertson and Mr. Goodwin.

Here is his bio listing credentials.

Those are engineering credentials. There is nothing whatsoever surprising about someone being a physics crackpot *and* a qualified engineer.

Actually, I dare say MOST physics crackpots I've come across have some sort of engineering background. Similarly, there are plenty of medical doctors who are also creationists.

 

[TubbaBlubba]

Those are engineering credentials. There is nothing whatsoever surprising about someone being a physics crackpot *and* a qualified engineer.

Actually, I dare say MOST physics crackpots I've come across have some sort of engineering background. Similarly, there are plenty of medical doctors who are also creationists.

Salem hypothesis, as it would happen.

 

[Mojo]

Ok, so QM describes the world as we can see it, and predict probabilities. But it doesn't explain why. That is the criticism.

10 points.

 

[trevorjjj]

Considering that none of the cold fusion claims have been well replicated this is a bad place to start.

Wrong - at one point NASA issued/leaked its' response to these claims, the impression I got was that they ACCEPTED the reality - if not the processes involved.

They were EXCITED!

NASA needs to know everything about the physical mechanisms as a FIRST STEP.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Well, that's a hell of a bit of thread necromancy. I'd love to see a NASA statement that they accept the reality of cold fusion.

 

[catsmate]

Wrong - at one point NASA issued/leaked its' response to these claims, the impression I got was that they ACCEPTED the reality - if not the processes involved.

They were EXCITED!

NASA needs to know everything about the physical mechanisms as a FIRST STEP.

Citations Required

 

[Reality Check]

Wrong - at one point NASA...

We can almost stop this thread necromancy there because this is NASA and NASA itself really only does space-related research.

Some NASA scientists did test Fleischmann & Pons cold fusion experiment and produced a NASA technical memo in December 1989 (PDF). The result was no neutrons over the background count = no fusion. As the memo says, the scientists were excited at the prospect of cold fusion if it existed so they looked to see if it existed and found no sign of fusion.