The WMD's May Have Been Found

Mr Manifesto said:


Have you ever made any kind of point in P, CE & H?

Of course, although they appear to sail over your head (e.g. as above). C'est la vie...
 
The fact that many found the inspections process to have solved the Iraq problem (particularly when Saddam was not cooperating) is in itself a problem.

Inspections can only work when the inspectee cooperates with the process. If Saddam was determined to hide munitions, there is no way that inspectors could find it all. That's not what they were trained to do.
 
crackmonkey said:
The fact that many found the inspections process to have solved the Iraq problem (particularly when Saddam was not cooperating) is in itself a problem.

Inspections can only work when the inspectee cooperates with the process. If Saddam was determined to hide munitions, there is no way that inspectors could find it all. That's not what they were trained to do.

We seem to be at a bit of an impasse here. In the interests of forwarding the debate, would you cite a source for Saddam not cooperating? I know he wasn't cooperating, but I think you need to learn a bit more about what was happening at the time.
 
RussDill said:


So does that mean the civil war is still not over due to our domestic terrorism?

There's a bit of a difference between 100 years and not-quite one year. The war isn't over just because George says so.
 
I think it can be argued that the war is over. The coalition hasn't faced any government soldiers in months. I agree that the guerilla actions that are ongoing are not a real war, at least if we all agree that the "war on terrorism" is not a real war. The coalition won, as everyone knew they would. But the war didn't accomplish it's major stated objective, which was to find WMDs. Although they have removed Saddam, the people of Iraq are no safer, and in fact are in greater danger, than they were immediately before the war. International terrorism has not abated, and seems to be stronger than ever, especially in Iraq. There is no guarantee that the next regime will be any more tractable than Saddam's was, and indications are that we may have ourselves a brand new Islamic fundamentalist government that we all love so much.

I suppose you could say that the most important, if unstated, objective that was accomplished (from the US standpoint) was the capture of Iraqi oil. Time will tell if the US will return this resource fully to the Iraqi people, or if they will continue to "help" (in very expensive ways) to rebuild the industry.

I said before the war started, and I still stand by it. Winning the war would be easy. Winning the peace would be very difficult. Recovering our honor may be harder still.
 
WMD's? Here they are!

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Don't worry, with great expense and effoct, the US has developed a weapon under secrecy in area 51 to counter the sling shot threat:

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RussDill said:
I didn't know the Iraqi insurgents were this far along! I weep for the american way of life.
Not QUITE ICBM's, but getting there...
 
Mr Manifesto said:


There's a bit of a difference between 100 years and not-quite one year. The war isn't over just because George says so.

Yeah but it is over since you lost the poll. :p
 
crackmonkey said:
The fact that many found the inspections process to have solved the Iraq problem (particularly when Saddam was not cooperating) is in itself a problem.

Inspections can only work when the inspectee cooperates with the process. If Saddam was determined to hide munitions, there is no way that inspectors could find it all. That's not what they were trained to do.

Libya has been more cooperative in less than a year than Saddam was in 12
 
Troll said:
Libya has been more cooperative in less than a year than Saddam was in 12
Libya was bombed by the USA also, by Reagan, if I recall.
 
RussDill said:
So does that mean the civil war is still not over due to our domestic terrorism?

Lincoln is considered by many to be last casualty of the American Civil War. He died April 15, 1865, six days after Lee surrendered. On the other hand, May 13th of that year saw the Battle of Palmito Ranch and the CSS Shenandoah didn't surrender until November 6 of 1865. So let's take the Shenandoah's surrender as the last action of the American Civil War. That's about 207 days after Lee's surrender. There's obviously a difference between the end of a war and the end of hostilities.

It's been over 255 days since President Bush announced the end of combat operations on May 1, 2003. American soldiers are still dying. Iraqi civilians are still dying.

The war is not over, even if BTox, RussDill, and the President all say so.
 
A Danish official in the city of Basra said troops had uncovered 36 120mm mortars on Friday and had asked British specialists to analyse them.
Weren't we supposed to get some test results this week?

Anybody read something? :confused:
 
Bjorn said:
Weren't we supposed to get some test results this week?

Anybody read something? :confused:

yes, they were negative (for blister agent), but don't worry, there are always more stories to chase, like the 2 pounds of yellowcake being located in a scrap metal shipment from iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108654,00.html

once again, the amount found isn't enough to do anythnig with.
 
RussDill said:
yes, they were negative (for blister agent)
Where did you see that? I saw no big headlines in the commie liberal media? :)

Still no WMDs? :(
 

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