Actually, he's over HERE (today) jumping the same gun...

I'm new to these forums, but judging from his post and run approach, and his seeming obsession with this topic, he seems to have a serious chip on his shoulder and is more than just a bit paranoid.

He has thousands of posts according to his profile count, are they all just "one and done" making sweeping generalizations and complaining about how he got beat up in the past? That and his avatar combined are more than a little creepy.
 
I'm new to these forums, but judging from his post and run approach, and his seeming obsession with this topic, he seems to have a serious chip on his shoulder and is more than just a bit paranoid.

He has thousands of posts according to his profile count, are they all just "one and done" making sweeping generalizations and complaining about how he got beat up in the past? That and his avatar combined are more than a little creepy.

No. He does engage in discussion. I have been noticing this hit and run technique becoming more common though. HE's been taking a bit of flack from other poster, so maybe that's what the issue is.

As for his avatar, it's a Blue Oyster Cult album cover ("Fire of unknown origin"), and yes, it is a bit creepy.
 
About US.

He's right that there sure are asshat "god hating atheists". But I must say that I have several times seen US jump at just those atheists around here that are really trying not to be disrespectful. It does kind of invalidate his criticism a bit in my eyes, at least. In this thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99188

Several of us tried to show in many, many posts that we did not mean to, or even wanted to exclude skeptics that may also have a belief in a deity, just because we were discussing something that we saw as an inconsistency. But we were jumped on several times, by US, who accused people of doing just that, and/or wanting to do just that. (Others did too, but since tsg's views on US was discussed above, I mention him.) He also said we were damaging to the "mission", when we "wanted to exclude skeptic theists", which, again, most of us did not want at all.

If US wants to fight the tehist-haters, I suggest he's being more careful in deciding who these people really are. Criticising a god belief in itself does not automatically make you into such a hater of theists. It seems to me that he sees anger and hate where there really is none. I think he means well, but he is really not being fair half of the time in his criticism of other atheists.
 
Fnord, is the War on Christianity the same thing as the War on Christmas?
 
I stopped reading this thread a while back because I was letting my frustration with a handful of people and some major changes in my life over the past two months at work get to me I took it out on people should not have.

I wish to apologize for that and I want to thank those of you who gave me the benefit of the doubt.

I've tried to adopt a new tack when it comes to my honey/vinegar argument and hopefully won't be a jerk on this particular issue in the future.

..though I'm sure I find other ones to be a jerk about. :D
 
I stopped reading this thread a while back because I was letting my frustration with a handful of people and some major changes in my life over the past two months at work get to me I took it out on people should not have.

I wish to apologize for that and I want to thank those of you who gave me the benefit of the doubt.

I've tried to adopt a new tack when it comes to my honey/vinegar argument and hopefully won't be a jerk on this particular issue in the future.

..though I'm sure I find other ones to be a jerk about. :D
Why do you always have to be a jerk?








:p
 
Why do you always have to be a jerk?

Because I hate America. :D

(I've come to terms with my 20% pay cut, $80/mo. rent hike, gas being $.30 higher than 3 months ago, Scarlett throwing up might not meaning her being on her last legs, my mom falling and not being able to drive any more not meaning she's a total invalid and the fact that some forumites consider the JREF an alternate AA or FFRF.)

I'm sure I'll still find things to be a jerk about though... I didn't chose UnrepentantSinner because I'd actually read Askin's book. ;)
 
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The OP is waiting for a deranged atheist to run amuck in a church and then return triumphantly with a

"Told you so"
 
It would seem that the opening poster is not interested in discussion - just posting an unsubstanciated rant and fleeing to greener pastures when challenged.
 
Since Fnord has abandoned this thread, I have let my mind wander on the idea of a War Against Christianity and I think I have found a way to start one, sort of, well in the USA, at least.

There are lots of Christians in the US who seem to believe that this is a Christian nation and not a secular one or should I say that is the meme that many are attempting to spread. I think the best way to start a War Against Christianity is to tell them, yes the USA is indeed a Christian nation, but they have to tell us which brand of Christianity it follows. After all, there can only be "One True" Church, with "One True" version of the Bible, and "One True" Religious leader, head honcho and protector of the faith. So, they will have to duke it out between themselves for that honor. Sure, the "One True" Church can allow the others to have some status and acceptance in the USA, but there has to be one that is chosen.

Then all secular individuals can sit back and watch the fur fly. We won't have to do or say another thing. The various versions of Christianity will have to fight it out between themselves. Whether it comes to physical blows or just lots and lots of shouting, they will be locked in battle until they come to the realization that the only way that the individual versions of Christianity can all exist with a decent level of authority and therefore followers and funds (you know the church leaders don't want to lose the power and freedom they currently enjoy) is if they agree that the USA is indeed a secular nation.

So, we can win without striking a blow or saying anything mean ;-) Credit Doctor Who for my inspiration here, when the Doctor brings down Harriet Jones with just the few simple words "Don't you think she looks tired". Hee hee
 

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