The [UK-US] Special Relationship is dead

[funk de fino]

I would have no problem with the govt sitting talking with the Argentinians about the issues surrounding the oil drilling going on.

The issues here are the oil drilling not the ownership of the islands. But on that subject.

UN resolution 1982 -Requests the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume negotiations in order to find as soon as possible a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute relating to the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);

UN resolution 1983 - Reiterates its request to the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume negotiations in order to find as soon as possible a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute relating to the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);

And so on until 1988. The this in 2004.

1. Reiterates that the way to put an end to the special and particular colonial situation in the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) is the peaceful and negotiated settlement of the dispute over sovereignty between the Governments of the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland;

2. Takes note of the views expressed by the President of Argentina on the occasion of the fifty-eighth session of the General Assembly;

3. Regrets that, in spite of the widespread international support for a negotiation between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom that includes all aspects on the future of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), the implementation of the General Assembly resolutions on this question has not yet been started;

4. Requests the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom to consolidate the current process of dialogue and cooperation through the resumption of negotiations in order to find as soon as possible a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute relating to the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), in accordance with the provisions of General Assembly resolutions 2065 (XX), 3160 (XXVIII), 31/49, 37/9, 38/12, 39/6, 40/21, 41/40, 42/19 and 43/25;

5. Reiterates its firm support for the mission of good offices of the Secretary-General in order to assist the parties in complying with the request made by the General Assembly in its resolutions on the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);

6. Decides to keep under review the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) subject to the directives that the General Assembly has issued and may issue in that regard.

The UN position is negogiation so I guess they have been stabbing us in the back since 1982? The Argentinians asked for talks on the oil drilling issues framed by those resolutions. Now they may be playing the game and looking to use the US to get negogiations on ownership of the island but that is not what the US admin have said.

So unless settled means who won the war, then the issue is not settled. Argentina have never given up claims to the Malvinas. I have served there during my service. The Falklands islanders should have the say what is to happen regardless of the stances of both govts.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Which has, for as long as I can remember, been the USA's diplomatic line about issues arising between our disagreements.

The latter is true, but what I think you have chosen to overlook in your interpretation of her remarks, which she may have intended as innocuous and within that vein, is that the oil dispute cannot be extracted from an already settled dispute of whose authority the islands fall under. I may be putting too much importance on her remarks, other than for this problem: in politics, frequently, what seems innocuous becomes an issue.

ETA: thank you Funk, appreciate the perspective, and the emphasis on the oil drilling. (IIRC, there are contintal shelf/ILOS issues involved, memory foggy).

I still fail to see how the 1982 conflict didn't settle under whose authority the Falklands fall, all flowery UN rhetoric considered. In some ways, the UN has been applying the death of a thousand cuts to the UK, given that "the sovereignty dispute" was settled the old fashioned way: with blood and iron.

DR