The Truth about RFK Jr

Chris_Halkides said:
At Unbiased Science Jess Steier wrote about the events this week: "And then came Dr. Demetre Daskalakis's resignation letter—a document that should be required reading for anyone who still believes this is about 'different scientific opinions.' 'I have never experienced such radical non-transparency, nor have I seen such unskilled manipulation of data to achieve a political end rather than the good of the American people.' He warned that we're heading toward "a pre-vaccine era where only the strong will survive." He wrote about 'people of dubious intent and more dubious scientific rigor' now in charge of vaccine policy...This isn't about industry influence—most of these career scientists could have made five times their government salary in the private sector. This is about the fundamental rejection of expertise itself."
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Yeah, the one statement in the letter that jumped out to me was something like, "I don't know who he is listening to. He isn't listening to us."

This has kind of been my take recently - who informs these guys?

I mean, who is advising Trump on his policies? I think we deserve to know. Does he have advisers, if so, what is their expertise? And if he doesn't have advisers, what is his sources of information?

Many have pointed out the absolute idiocy of the ignorance he exhibits, in trivial ways. I mean, he is the President of the US and has access to any source he wants, but he still pulls out trivially ignorant stuff. The best example I know is his using bleach to kill covid nonsense. I mean, the question, "Why can't someone come up with a way to inject this into your body?" question is not, on the whole, a dumb question. But the President doesn't need to be asking that at a friggin press conference. There are 10s of thousands of people in industry and academia who have spent their lives trying to address that exact question, and if he just asked someone in his office, they'd have the world's leading experts from the NIH in Bethesda come and explain exactly why they can't. But that is the kind of thing intellectuals do. It's what Bill Clinton would have done, or Barack Obama.

Does he really just think he knows everything about everything? Or is he just swallowing a bunch of crap from whoever sucks up the hardest? Seriously, as the President he has the right to call Miss Cleo if he wants, but we also have the right to know that the President is basing policy on the advice of Miss Cleo. I mean, if he did that you would hear all the MAGAts claim they believe in psychics, but at least we'd know.

Talking Trump is off topic, but the idea is the same for RFK. He's come out and said, "Don't take my advice." But then, who's advice should we take? And who is he listening to?
 
W.D.Clinger said:
RFK Jr did not have the authority to fire her (because she was appointed by the US President and then confirmed by the Senate). The US President does have that authority, and it seems he has indeed fired her.
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Damn. And it seems Trump thinks he is still running a TV game show - "You're fired!" What a cabal of dangerous lunatics.
 
From The Hill: "Kennedy told Fox News’s “Fox & Friends” on Thursday that the CDC’s leadership “needs to execute Trump’s agenda” and said the agency “is in trouble” and “needs to be fixed.”

“CDC has problems. We saw the misinformation coming out of COVID, they got the testing wrong, they got the social distancing, the masks, the school closures that have done so much harm to the American people today,” he said." What does this have to do with mRNA vaccines? What does this have to do with a putative link between autism and vaccines?
 
Chris_Halkides said:
From The Hill: "Kennedy told Fox News’s “Fox & Friends” on Thursday that the CDC’s leadership “needs to execute Trump’s agenda” and said the agency “is in trouble” and “needs to be fixed.”

“CDC has problems. We saw the misinformation coming out of COVID, they got the testing wrong, they got the social distancing, the masks, the school closures that have done so much harm to the American people today,” he said." What does this have to do with mRNA vaccines? What does this have to do with a putative link between autism and vaccines?
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:crazy: :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

The anti-science lunacy is on public parade. Tar and feather him.
 
pgwenthold said:
Yeah, the one statement in the letter that jumped out to me was something like, "I don't know who he is listening to. He isn't listening to us."

This has kind of been my take recently - who informs these guys?

I mean, who is advising Trump on his policies? I think we deserve to know. Does he have advisers, if so, what is their expertise? And if he doesn't have advisers, what is his sources of information?

Many have pointed out the absolute idiocy of the ignorance he exhibits, in trivial ways. I mean, he is the President of the US and has access to any source he wants, but he still pulls out trivially ignorant stuff. The best example I know is his using bleach to kill covid nonsense. I mean, the question, "Why can't someone come up with a way to inject this into your body?" question is not, on the whole, a dumb question. But the President doesn't need to be asking that at a friggin press conference. There are 10s of thousands of people in industry and academia who have spent their lives trying to address that exact question, and if he just asked someone in his office, they'd have the world's leading experts from the NIH in Bethesda come and explain exactly why they can't. But that is the kind of thing intellectuals do. It's what Bill Clinton would have done, or Barack Obama.
Does he really just think he knows everything about everything? Or is he just swallowing a bunch of crap from whoever sucks up the hardest? Seriously, as the President he has the right to call Miss Cleo if he wants, but we also have the right to know that the President is basing policy on the advice of Miss Cleo. I mean, if he did that you would hear all the MAGAts claim they believe in psychics, but at least we'd know.

Talking Trump is off topic, but the idea is the same for RFK. He's come out and said, "Don't take my advice." But then, who's advice should we take? And who is he listening to?
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Highlighted above, if you take his statements as more or less what he thinks, the answer is yes. He has stated outright that he knows more about many subjects than any other person who exists. It is, of course, flamboyantly crazy, but there it is. If you are a certain kind of crazy you never ask, you tell.
 
The New York Times reported, "In addition to firing top C.D.C. leaders, Mr. Kennedy insisted that Dr. Monarez agree to accept whatever recommendations were made by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Policy, they said. The expert panel was recently reconstituted by Mr. Kennedy with new members who have questioned the safety of vaccines."
 
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Why is Trump still supporting RFK Jr? Because Fauci. Trump is punishing us for Fauci embarrassing him. There is the whole MAGA movement hating vaccines, but what does Trump care about his MAGA anymore?
 
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Solid RFK jr supporter:
Political positions
Jared Polis has been described as a libertarian. He has spoken in favor of abortion rights, school choice, replacing Colorado's property tax with a land value tax,[62] and eliminating Colorado's income tax. During the COVID-19 pandemic in Colorado, he was skeptical of enforcing the state's mask mandates for long periods of time, saying he personally wore masks but did not want "to force it on people". In 2022, the libertarian magazine Reason wrote that he was "the most libertarian governor in America".
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The White House has named a replacement for the director of the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a day after its previous leader was forced out of the job.

Jim O'Neill currently serves as the deputy to Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr, and will replace Susan Monarez after she was in the role for just a month.

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White House names RFK Jr deputy Jim O'Neill as replacement CDC director

Lawyers for Dr Susan Monarez say only the president can remove her from her job running the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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Andy_Ross said:
The White House has named a replacement for the director of the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a day after its previous leader was forced out of the job.

Jim O'Neill currently serves as the deputy to Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr, and will replace Susan Monarez after she was in the role for just a month.

www.bbc.co.uk

White House names RFK Jr deputy Jim O'Neill as replacement CDC director

Lawyers for Dr Susan Monarez say only the president can remove her from her job running the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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He will be sitting all alone by himself in a big empty laboratory, one of many. Nobody will be working with him of any consequence.
 
At Ground Truths within Substack in early 2024 Eric Topol had a conversation with Jonathan Howard. Dr. Topol said, "Right, the data is unequivocal that there's benefit across the board. In fact, just last week in JAMA two senior people at FDA, Peter Marks and Robert Califf published the graphs of how across all ages there was reduction in mortality with the vaccines." Later on Dr. Howard said, "So far around 2,000 children have died of Covid, which is comparable to what measles used to do before."
 
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