The Truth about RFK Jr

At Beyond the Noise Dr. Paul Offit wrote, "Hours after the AAP released its statement, Kennedy fired back, posting on X that the AAP was engaging in a “pay-to-play scheme to promote commercial ambitions of AAP’s Big Pharma benefactors.” Kennedy linked to a page showing that the AAP’s Friends of Children Fund, a charity that focuses on adolescent mental health and suicide prevention, had received donations from several vaccine makers. Kennedy also claimed that the medical journal that published the AAP’s recommendations, Pediatrics, was part of this same “pay-to-play scheme.” Kennedy’s actions were a tiresome rerun of his many accusations over the past 20 years. Whenever scientists, doctors, public health officials, academic institutions, scientific journals, or medical or professional societies claim that a vaccine is safe, effective, or valuable, he says that they are all in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry. No one is to be trusted, except him. Kennedy’s conflict-of-interest gambit is a misdirection game."
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
At Beyond the Noise Dr. Paul Offit wrote, "Hours after the AAP released its statement, Kennedy fired back, posting on X that the AAP was engaging in a “pay-to-play scheme to promote commercial ambitions of AAP’s Big Pharma benefactors.” Kennedy linked to a page showing that the AAP’s Friends of Children Fund, a charity that focuses on adolescent mental health and suicide prevention, had received donations from several vaccine makers. Kennedy also claimed that the medical journal that published the AAP’s recommendations, Pediatrics, was part of this same “pay-to-play scheme.” Kennedy’s actions were a tiresome rerun of his many accusations over the past 20 years. Whenever scientists, doctors, public health officials, academic institutions, scientific journals, or medical or professional societies claim that a vaccine is safe, effective, or valuable, he says that they are all in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry. No one is to be trusted, except him. Kennedy’s conflict-of-interest gambit is a misdirection game."
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It's always seemed odd to me that the anti-vax conspiracy types don't realize that big pharma would make more money if there were no vaccines. If that were the case BP would profit greatly from selling medicines to sick people. But I guess I'm just thinking rationally - gotta stop doing that!
 
thines said:
It's always seemed odd to me that the anti-vax conspiracy types don't realize that big pharma would make more money if there were no vaccines. If that were the case BP would profit greatly from selling medicines to sick people. But I guess I'm just thinking rationally - gotta stop doing that!
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If they were smart enough to think of that, they'd be too smart to be anti-vax in the first place.
 
Politico USA Today reported: ""AAP is angry that CDC has eliminated corporate influence in decisions over vaccine recommendations and returned CDC to gold-standard science and evidence-based medicine laser-focused on children’s health," Kennedy Jr. wrote."
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
Politico reported: ""AAP is angry that CDC has eliminated corporate influence in decisions over vaccine recommendations and returned CDC to gold-standard science and evidence-based medicine laser-focused on children’s health," Kennedy Jr. wrote."
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Errrm... Which is what it was previously, you derp.
 
By "gold-standard science" he really means that double-blinded placebo controlled trials need to be conducted before any vaccines are approved, even though such trials, which would necessitate not treating people for potentially deadly diseases, are not ethical and could never be done. It's an effort to conceal vaccine denial under a transparent coating of scientific language.
 
arthwollipot said:
By "gold-standard science" he really means that double-blinded placebo controlled trials need to be conducted before any vaccines are approved, even though such trials, which would necessitate not treating people for potentially deadly diseases, are not ethical and could never be done. It's an effort to conceal vaccine denial under a transparent coating of scientific language.
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The highlighted part is the point!
'Gold-standard science' is just BS. it isn't meant to be anything specific, like "double-blinded placebo controlled trials." They have been rambling on about RCTs for years, but now that they have become the medical establishment, they are not at all in a hurry to conduct any of those allegedly indispensable RCTs. On the contrary, they are now cancelling all kinds of research, RCT-based or not.

Jonathan Howard (Science-Based Medicine) doesn't tire of pointing out how Vinay Prasad, one of the main proponents of (imaginary) RCTs and new FDA vaccine chief, gave up on promoting RCTs as soon as he became a part of the medical establishment.
It was just a way for the anti-vaxxers to make their criticism of C19 restrictions and vaccines sound as if it was based on science.
Doctor Who Compared Pandemic Restrictions to Nazi Germany Gains Keys to the Vaccine Vault (McGill, May 16, 2025)
I turned to Dr. Jonathan Howard, who has documented Prasad’s contrarianism for Science-Based Medicine and for his book, We Want Them Infected. “He excoriated the previous medical establishment,” Howard told me via email, “for not doing more trials and has supported removing COVID vaccines until they show their value against hospitalization and death in new RCTs.” In his recent FDA address, though, Prasad’s dictate softened: “Good evidence is context dependent,” he finally admitted. He said that for rare diseases, RCTs are “not always necessary,” as recruiting enough participants, many of us would argue, can be very challenging if not impossible.
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Supreme Court allows NIH to stop making nearly $800M in research grants for now (NPR, Aug 21, 2025)
Sixteen states, as well as advocacy organizations and researchers, disagreed — they sued the NIH and Kennedy, arguing that terminating the research grants is unconstitutional.
A federal District judge concluded that the terminations were based on "no reasoned decision-making" and, after a bench trial, temporarily reinstated the grants. In his decision, Judge William Young criticized the NIH for breaking "a historical norm of a largely apolitical scientific research agency." The 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused to intervene in the lower court's temporary decision.
But on Thursday, the Supreme Court blocked the District Court's order, allowing the Trump administration to pause paying out grants to researchers as this case proceeds in the lower courts.
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arthwollipot said:
By "gold-standard science" he really means that double-blinded placebo controlled trials need to be conducted before any vaccines are approved, even though such trials, which would necessitate not treating people for potentially deadly diseases, are not ethical and could never be done.
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Why not?
 
thines said:
It's always seemed odd to me that the anti-vax conspiracy types don't realize that big pharma would make more money if there were no vaccines. If that were the case BP would profit greatly from selling medicines to sick people. But I guess I'm just thinking rationally - gotta stop doing that!
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Big pharma bought out most of the fake medicine companies they swear by a number of years ago.
 
Mojo said:
Why not?
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If there is a treatment already and one is testing a new treatment, then the existing standard of care has to be the control arm, as I understand the ethics of the matter. There is more to say on the subject than I can quickly put down on paper. See David Gorski's essay here, and Paul Offit's essay there. The last paragraphs of Dr. Offit's essay discuss the trial of the Salk vaccine.
 
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