The Truth about RFK Jr

they're just so obviously lying scammers that it's a little fruitless to point out that because the report is based on a bunch of fake studies, it's as we don't know that it's based on good science
 
dirtywick said:
they're just so obviously lying scammers that it's a little fruitless to point out that because the report is based on a bunch of fake studies, it's as we don't know that it's based on good science
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"Now that is good science —there's no real evidence for it—but it is good science."
 
dann said:
This is beyond parody!
Trump administration’s MAHA report riddled with fake citations (CNN on YouTube, Man 30, 2025 - 8:03 min.)
The first report from the Trump administration’s Make America Healthy Again Commission, released last week, appears to be rife with errors, including some studies that don’t exist. The citation errors were first reported by NOTUS, a nonprofit, nonpartisan news site created by former Politico Publisher Robert Allbritton.
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These are not 'errors', they are fabrications, deliberate falsehoods, intentional untruths...

You know, LIES.
 
I don't think AIs can lie. They just do what their owners or users tell them to do.

As for Karoline Leavitt, she reminds me of the kind of student that we have probably all come across: somebody who has learned early on that it is a safe strategy to repeat and never question whatever the teacher says. They annoy the hell out of everybody else but are appreciated by weak teachers who rely on their position as authorities instead of on their actual knowledge.
As a teacher, I sometimes played the devil's advocate to undermine the strategy. They hate that. Nothing scares them more than having to think for themselves. Trump also hates nothing more than underlings who think for themselves, so they are an ideal couple in this respect - especially now that Ivanka seems to have abandoned him.

The one who came up with the excuse "some formatting issues" was probably the one who was tasked with putting the report together, whoever that may have been. I don't think RFK Jr. would think of it. One of the others would have had to do it before the ones in charge of MAHA signed off on it without reading anything other than the conclusions.
Marty Makary? Jay Bhattacharya? One of the assistants, like Tracy Beth Høeg? (Denmark's contribution to MAHA, sorry! 🤢 )
 
MAGA's, i.e. Senator Joni Ernst's, Nazi eugenics.
Not about RFK Jr., but it's in the context of health-care reductions.
Worst possible answer: Ernst downplays death as consequence of purging Medicaid (MSNBC on YouTube, May 31, 2025 - 8:34 min.)
Responding to voters at a town hall concerned that removing people from the Medicaid rolls would have dire consequences, including death, Senator Joni Ernst replied, "Well, we all are going to die." The outrage in response was instantaneous. Nathan Sage, Ernst's Democratic opponent, joins Jen Psaki to share his thoughts.
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1:19--> Ernst said this:
"They are not eligible, so they will be coming off. So people are not well. We are all going to die, so for heaven's sakes for heaven's sakes, folks."
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Norine Dworkin interviewed vaccine expert Dr. Paul Offit on 23 May. Dr. Offit said, "Obviously if they ever advance to not vaccinating children, then there will be a big price to pay. Just last year, 150 children died of covid. Eighteen hundred children died of covid throughout the whole pandemic. Children can die of covid. I’ve seen it. It happened in our hospital. We had three floors of covid when covid hit in 2020 and 2021. Three floors. We canceled elective surgeries. We were overwhelmed by that virus. Children can get sick from this virus."
 
From the Associated Press, "“The announcement from earlier this week sounded like CDC was going to fully withdraw any statement that could be construed as a recommendation for these vaccines in these populations,” said Jason Schwartz, a Yale University health policy researcher. “It’s not as bad as it could have been.”...That kind of recommendation, known as shared decision-making, still means health insurers must pay for the vaccinations, according to the CDC. However, experts say vaccination rates tend to be lower when health authorities use that language and doctors are less emphatic with patients about getting shots."
 
Lysenko v Kennedy.

Lysenko has been called the scientist responsible for more deaths than any other. Kennedy's actions and proposals promise to beat that record.​

  • Both men held views far outside the scientific establishment and had long been proven wrong, yet both came to power through impressing authoritarian leaders with personal loyalty.
  • Both favor censorship of real science and the centralization of research. Lysenko had textbooks banned that taught genetics; Kennedy is proposing that only his state-run journals will be allowed to guide US health policy.
  • Both men promoted alternative “science” that was derived from ideology: Lysenko’s cultivation techniques were at odds with agiculturists, yet they iconified the “new Soviet man.” Kennedy paints doctors and scientists as “elites” and their rejection as a brave maverick act that can empower every average person.
  • Both men frame mainstream science as corrupt or ideologically compromised to justify their positions.
  • Both men have used the legal system to silence scientists and personal enemies. Lysenko personally orchestrated the arrests and executions of geneticists, with Stalin’s backing. Kennedy has done the following:
    • During his 2023 Presidential campaign, he said he would have Anthony Fauci prosecuted.
    • His Children’s Health Defense anti-vaccine organization has filed lawsuits against vaccine scientist Peter Hotez.
    • Once he became HHS Secretary, Kennedy had Fauci’s wife fired and assigned Fauci’s successor to an outpost in Alaska (the closest thing he could find to a Gulag).
Undoubtedly, Kennedy’s campaigns against Fauci, Hotez, and other health advocates reveal a systematic effort to replace evidence-based science with ideological narratives. These actions mirror Lysenko’s suppression of genetics in the USSR.

No good is going to come of this.
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No good indeed.
 
At Science-based Medicine Dr. David Gorski has written twice about the parallels between Lysenko and RFK Jr. In his first essay he wrote, "Indeed, there are echoes of Lysenko in the termination letters, which frequently say things like: the researcher’s project is “antithetical to scientific inquiry” and “harms the health of Americans.” Like Lysenko, RFK Jr. is claiming the mantle of science as he attacks, purges, and defunds actual science." In the second of his two essays he said,"Lysenkoism 2.0. It’s all there: ideology trumping science, scientists not buying into the new scientific dogma losing favor, being fired, or even otherwise punished, while scientists who do are rewarded, sometimes richly. I predict that MAHA will end up changing the way that research grants are disbursed to scientists to emphasize rigorous scientific review by expert study sections less and emphasize ideology, loyalty, patronage and cronyism. The Trumpian innovation to Lysenko’s legacy is the cronyism and, I expect in the future, grift."
 
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Dr. Keven A. Ault wrote, "The SARS-CoV-2 virus directly infects and damages the placenta, and this is likely responsible for these adverse fetal and newborn outcomes. The trend toward poor maternal and pregnancy outcomes accelerated in 2021 with the emergence of the Delta variant."
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Whilst I don't disagree with the argument for vaccinating women pre-conception or when pregnant, the case for SARS-CoV-2 directly infecting the placenta is less strong.

although there are currently no data to confirm this, it is highly probable that it reaches the placenta via the hematogenous route following an episode(s) of maternal viremia
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Similar to other respiratory viruses such as influenza viruses, SARS-CoV-1, adenoviruses, and respiratory syncytial virus, SARS-CoV-2 can be detected in the human bloodstream, which is a finding that has been termed both “viremia” and “RNAemia.
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This is very contentious many flu experts would argue that flu is not viraemic.
 
At Bulwark Jonathan Cohn wrote, "Ratner, who is the author of the book Booster Shots, said he could not fathom why Kennedy would be cutting off development of a treatment that might offer the surest, quickest way to prevent a potentially catastrophic spread of bird flu—let alone slow progress on a treatment that holds out the promise of fighting a lot more than infectious disease.⁵. “This decision,” Ratner said, “represents an unforced error of potentially epic proportions.”

Mr. Cohn also discussed the change in recommendation for pregnant women: "Kennedy’s announcement prompted a blistering statement from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, plus lots of questions about exactly who made the decision and why—especially because two top FDA officials had indicated in a much-ballyhooed article a week earlier that their agency still thought pregnancy was a valid reason for boosters."
 
MedPageToday reported, "FDA Commissioner Marty Makary, MD, MPH, called the CDC's independent advisory body on immunizations a "kangaroo court" in an interview. (STAT)". Politico wrote, "Makary also cast doubt on the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. “That panel has been a kangaroo court where they just rubber-stamp every single vaccine put in front of them,” he said."
 
At Science-based Medicine Jonathan Howard wrote, "Now, that he is in power and is expected to generate evidence for the American public, Dr. Prasad created yet another medical reversal. During a recent conversation with Dr. Makary about talc, which is grave danger to the American public according to our medical establishment, he decided that, except for vaccines, RCTs are no longer needed to guard against potential harms." Dr. Howard also discussed what he sees as Dr. Makary's and Dr. Bhattacharya's inconsistencies, regarding positions they took before versus after taking the reins at their respective organizations.
 
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