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The Truth about RFK Jr

RFK Jr faces Congress today to justify his hatchet job.


"HHS did not respond to NPR's repeated requests to interview Kennedy for this story. On Wednesday Kennedy will face the House Appropriations committee in the morning and the Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee in the afternoon. The purpose is to discuss President Trump's proposed budget for the agency, which would make the restructuring of the agency and dramatic cuts to staff and the budget permanent."

"...lawmakers may object to Kennedy's sweeping, sudden restructuring. "There has always been bipartisan support for HHS programs, that's how they survived," says Shalala, who served in Congress after her term as secretary. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Republican support for agencies like NIH and CDC began to fracture, although it's unclear if lawmakers will uphold all of the changes Kennedy is now trying to make at HHS."
 
Also from the hearing: "RFK Jr.'s response took Pocan aback. "If I answer that question directly, it will seem like I'm giving advice to other people, and I don't want to be doing that," the health secretary responded. "I want people to make that [decision] on their own.""

If he does not want people taking advice from him, then why did he talk about cod liver oil and Vitamin A? As for making decisions, people can only make good decisions if they have correct information.
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
As for making decisions, people can only make good decisions if they have correct information.
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And available options. I can't choose to have a flu vaccine that is being slow-walked to approval. The sufferer of a miscarriage can't choose to avoid life-threatening sepsis if the necessary medicine or procedure has been outlawed.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
Also from the hearing: "RFK Jr.'s response took Pocan aback. "If I answer that question directly, it will seem like I'm giving advice to other people, and I don't want to be doing that," the health secretary responded. "I want people to make that [decision] on their own.""

If he does not want people taking advice from him, then why did he talk about cod liver oil and Vitamin A? As for making decisions, people can only make good decisions if they have correct information.
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well i think the bigger issue is his department exists to give the public health advice
 
JayUtah said:
And available options. I can't choose to have a flu vaccine that is being slow-walked to approval. The sufferer of a miscarriage can't choose to avoid life-threatening sepsis if the necessary medicine or procedure has been outlawed.
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The same holds true with respect to new or revised vaccines against Covid-19, as I am sure that you are aware.
dirtywick said:
well i think the bigger issue is his department exists to give the public health advice
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I am in the process of reading Jonathan Howard's book We Want Them Infected. I have no plans to take advice from NIH, the FDA, or the Surgeon General at this time.
 
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ABC News reported on a question concerning the cancellation of clinical trials: "Kennedy responded claiming that "no clinical trials should be affected by the cuts" -- despite reports that NIH workforce cuts have affected clinical trials." Many clinical trials that were run through USAID were cancelled, as is discussed in depth in another thread. AAMC News discussed clinical trials here.

David Gorski wrote, "Meanwhile, the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) published a brief describing how many grants have been defunded since Trump took office, and include grants supporting research involving HIV/AIDS, vaccine hesitancy, mental or behavioral health, COVID-19, vaccines, substance abuse, and, shockingly, cancer. Many of the grants are supporting clinical trials...Canceling grants supporting clinical trials is particularly wasteful, because not only does it prevent funded trials from accruing new patients, but it makes it impossible to follow and collect data on the patients already in the trial. Basically, much, if not all, of the data already collected is wasted because the trial, unless near the end of accrual, will not have enough patients to produce a statistically significant result."
 
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JayUtah said:
I've heard there are issues with getting measles too.
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Indeed; they include the possibility of going to the hospital, going blind, or dying. Within the last ten years, it has become apparent that measles causes a partial loss of immune memory. "Examination of child mortality rates in the U.S., U.K., and Denmark in the decades before and after the introduction of the measles vaccine revealed that nearly half of all childhood deaths from infectious disease could be related to MV infection when the disease was prevalent. That means infections other than measles resulted in death, due to the MV effect on the immune system."
EDT
"This measles-induced “immune amnesia” can lead to more severe outcomes of secondary infections and can last for months to years [18–20]. Consistent with this result, matched cohort studies have associated measles virus infections with an elevated incidence and severity of other infectious diseases up to 3 to 5 years following measles [21, 22]. Lastly, following measles vaccination programs, the reduction of all-cause childhood mortality usually exceeded the number of averted measles deaths alone [23, 24], suggesting nonspecific effects of the measles vaccine. As the vaccine does not induce immune amnesia but effectively prevents measles virus infections, it likely reduces secondary infections [15]. Collectively, these studies suggested a disproportionate impact of measles virus infections on the overall childhood infectious disease burden." link
 
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Planigale said:
This nonsense about babies being challenged with too many antigens is just so stupid. The baby is born out of a sterile environment then gets pushed through a usually ◊◊◊◊ stained vagina, thrust on to a non-sterile breast. Its immune system has to deal with millions of novel microbes each expressing thousands of antigens.
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Hell yes, kiddies will stick anything they can get hold of in their mouth.
 
Andy_Ross said:
RFK Jr refuses to recommend people take the measles vaccine, but instead says "there are issues" with it
https://twitter.com/x/status/1922724764323287341
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From the same thread on X:
GreenArrowList on X, May 14, 2025
@grok Is any of what RFK said about the measles vaccine true?
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Grok on X, May 14, 2025
The measles vaccine's immunity may wane slowly over decades for some, but two doses typically provide lifelong protection, per the CDC. It's been rigorously tested since 1963 and is considered safe by health authorities, countering claims of inadequate safety testing. The vaccine doesn't contain fetal debris; while fetal cell lines are used in production, the final product is purified, containing no fetal cells or DNA.
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I now have, from eBay from a Goodwill store, RFK Jr's (ghostwriters probably) book on anti Fauci stuff. There is some clever data manipulation there. Covid deaths after the first Pfizer shot but before the 2nd shot was given. There were deaths because the vaccine took 60 days for full effect. The data for vaccinated vs unvaccinated in England fails to define what the group consisted of. Unvaccinated may be young healthy people. None of the real facts of Covid vaccine are in the book. Plenty of made up data that Ivermecting works. This sort of data is what we all saw from peer reviewed studies. The book has hundreds of references. From newspapers!

News Flash

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humboldtgov.org humboldtgov.org
Hospitalizations was affected quite well by vaccinating.
 
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jt512 said:
Nonsense. He appointed RFK as a quid pro quo for him dropping out of the presidential race. Not that I approve of that, but it's what he did.
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The rationalization for putting an anti-vaxxer in charge of public health doesn't make putting an anti-vaxxer in charge of public health any less anti-science. It's explicitly anti-science on its face.

The best you can do here is to claim that Trump is pro-science but also an amoral scumbag who doesn't care if people die, but that's a distinction without a difference, and in a lot of ways, much worse.

And by the way, you voted for it, so yes, you absolutely approved of it, just like every other Trump voter approved of it.
 
JayUtah said:
The sufferer of a miscarriage can't choose to avoid life-threatening sepsis if the necessary medicine or procedure has been outlawed.
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Sepsis will be the least of her worries. She can save the government money by just dying of it while on death row after being convicted of killing her baby. Especially if she's not white.
 
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